# Breaking news: Trump safe after shots fired near Palm Beach golf club 2024/09/15

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**Created:** [September 15, 2024, 8:01pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/breaking-news-trump-safe-after-shots-fired-near-palm-beach-golf-club-2024-09-15/1007312 "2024-09-15T20:01:53Z")\
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**Author:** ![commasense](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/commasense/32/3017_2.png) [@commasense](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/commasense)\
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ABC is more vague, but NY Post says Secret Service shot at man who may have had a gun. Apparently Trump wasn’t actually fired at, and is safe.

> **[Trump safe after apparent 'attempted assassination'; Sources identify...](https://abcnews.go.com/Politics/trump-safe-after-shooting-mar-lago-campaign/story?id=113704100)**
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> The FBI is investigating what it called an "attempted assassination" of former President Donald Trump on Sunday.

> **[Trump ‘safe and well’ after being targeted by would-be assassin with scoped...](https://nypost.com/2024/09/15/us-news/shooting-reported-at-donald-trumps-golf-club-while-ex-president-was-on-grounds/)**
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> Former President Trump narrowly survived yet another assassination attempt after a sniper with a scoped AK-47 rifle got within a few hundred yards of him as he played golf at his West Palm Beach, F…

ETA, the first version of the NYP article did not specify an AK-47.

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**Author:** ![Northern\_Piper](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/northern_piper/32/5304_2.png) [@Northern\_Piper](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Northern_Piper)\
**Post date:** [September 15, 2024, 8:05pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/breaking-news-trump-safe-after-shots-fired-near-palm-beach-golf-club-2024-09-15/1007312/2 "2024-09-15T20:05:02Z")

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I’m glad he’s safe and no-one appears to have been injured.

I’m saddened that this is happening.

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**Author:** ![Whack-a-Mole](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/whack-a-mole/32/141_2.png) [@Whack-a-Mole](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Whack-a-Mole)\
**Post date:** [September 15, 2024, 8:07pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/breaking-news-trump-safe-after-shots-fired-near-palm-beach-golf-club-2024-09-15/1007312/3 "2024-09-15T20:07:53Z")

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From the reports in the OP it seems Trump was not the target. He just happened to be nearby(ish) when someone shot a gun (and I am willing to bet the person who shot the gun had no idea Trump was near). Trump was never in any danger near as I can tell (admittedly early in the reporting and I am willing to bet Trump will try to spin this to his advantage).

If only people had more guns things like this wouldn’t happen. /s

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**Author:** ![PastTense](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/pasttense/32/14550_2.png) [@PastTense](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/PastTense)\
**Post date:** [September 15, 2024, 8:09pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/breaking-news-trump-safe-after-shots-fired-near-palm-beach-golf-club-2024-09-15/1007312/4 "2024-09-15T20:09:05Z")

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I thought Republicans were in favor of open carry…

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**Post date:** [September 15, 2024, 8:11pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/breaking-news-trump-safe-after-shots-fired-near-palm-beach-golf-club-2024-09-15/1007312/5 "2024-09-15T20:11:16Z")

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> [@PastTense](#):
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> I thought Republicans were in favor of open carry… -

For themselves. Not for “others”.

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**Author:** ![commasense](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/commasense/32/3017_2.png) [@commasense](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/commasense)\
**Post date:** [September 15, 2024, 8:12pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/breaking-news-trump-safe-after-shots-fired-near-palm-beach-golf-club-2024-09-15/1007312/6 "2024-09-15T20:12:52Z")

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> [@Whack-a-Mole](#):
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> Trump was not the target. He just happened to be nearby(ish) when someone shot a gun (and I am willing to bet the person who shot the gun had no idea Trump was near).

The NYP article (which is being revised) states that the only shots were fired by the Secret Service who saw a man carrying, but not shooting, a rifle, and who was later apprehended.

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**Author:** ![Whack-a-Mole](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/whack-a-mole/32/141_2.png) [@Whack-a-Mole](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Whack-a-Mole)\
**Post date:** [September 15, 2024, 8:15pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/breaking-news-trump-safe-after-shots-fired-near-palm-beach-golf-club-2024-09-15/1007312/7 "2024-09-15T20:15:21Z")

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I’m holding my breath waiting for the NRA to claim outrage that someone using their constitutional right to carry a gun was shot at and then apprehended by law enforcement. A right the NRA has fought diligently for over many decades.

Surely this is beyond the pale for law abiding gun owners! /s

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**Post date:** [September 15, 2024, 8:20pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/breaking-news-trump-safe-after-shots-fired-near-palm-beach-golf-club-2024-09-15/1007312/8 "2024-09-15T20:20:48Z")

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> [@PastTense](#):
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> I thought Republicans were in favor of open carry…

First thing I checked, Florida is not an ‘open carry’ state.

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**Post date:** [September 15, 2024, 8:26pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/breaking-news-trump-safe-after-shots-fired-near-palm-beach-golf-club-2024-09-15/1007312/9 "2024-09-15T20:26:13Z")

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> [@Whack-a-Mole](#):
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> He just happened to be nearby(ish) when someone shot a gun

It’s like that apocryphal factoid about how [you’re never more than three feet from a spider](https://www.burkemuseum.org/collections-and-research/biology/arachnology-and-entomology/spider-myths/myth-youre-always-within-three-feet-spider) — “In the US, you’re never more than fifty meters away from someone being shot!”

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**Author:** ![Broomstick](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/broomstick/32/246_2.png) [@Broomstick](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Broomstick)\
**Post date:** [September 15, 2024, 8:33pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/breaking-news-trump-safe-after-shots-fired-near-palm-beach-golf-club-2024-09-15/1007312/10 "2024-09-15T20:33:41Z")

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So… nobody shot at Trump, and the only people who opened first were the Secret Service agents who shot someone who happened to be holding/carrying a gun on the perimeter of the security zone they had set up? Was there any actual indication that the person exercising their right to bear arms intended any harm to anyone? Or was this someone exercising their right to bear arms who just happened to be exercising it at the wrong place and time?

Because, yeah, these politicians are all for people walking around heavily armed with guns until they get too close to said politicians, at which point it’s suddenly not OK.

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**Post date:** [September 15, 2024, 8:34pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/breaking-news-trump-safe-after-shots-fired-near-palm-beach-golf-club-2024-09-15/1007312/11 "2024-09-15T20:34:02Z")

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> [@commasense](#):
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> ABC is more vague, but NY Post says Secret Service shot at man who may have had a gun. Apparently Trump wasn’t actually fired at, and is safe.

The video on the NYPost page says that 2 people exchanged gunfire, and the shooters were targeting each other.

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**Author:** ![Whack-a-Mole](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/whack-a-mole/32/141_2.png) [@Whack-a-Mole](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Whack-a-Mole)\
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> [@needscoffee](#):
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> The video on the NYPost page says that 2 people exchanged gunfire, and the shooters were targeting each other.

A lot rides on who shot at who first.

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Link addressing myths of Fl gun laws.

> **[Jacksonville Sheriff's Office](https://www.jaxsheriff.org/Resources/PermitlessCarry.aspx)**
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> The Official Website of the Jacksonville Sheriffs Office

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**Post date:** [September 15, 2024, 9:11pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/breaking-news-trump-safe-after-shots-fired-near-palm-beach-golf-club-2024-09-15/1007312/14 "2024-09-15T21:11:45Z")

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> [@Broomstick](#):
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> So… nobody shot at Trump, and

CBC is reporting that the FBI says it was an attempted assassination.

> **[Trump was target of 'apparent assassination attempt' at his Florida golf...](https://www.cbc.ca/amp/1.7324106)**
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> The FBI said Sunday that former U.S. president Donald Trump was the subject of "an apparent assassination attempt" at this Florida golf club.

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**Post date:** [September 15, 2024, 9:16pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/breaking-news-trump-safe-after-shots-fired-near-palm-beach-golf-club-2024-09-15/1007312/15 "2024-09-15T21:16:41Z")

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Trump says that the FBI tells lies, though.

– if somebody actually is trying to shoot at Trump: cut it out. That’s not how to run an election. And it’s not helping.

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**Post date:** [September 15, 2024, 9:44pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/breaking-news-trump-safe-after-shots-fired-near-palm-beach-golf-club-2024-09-15/1007312/16 "2024-09-15T21:44:37Z")

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I’m checking “White” and “Republican” on my bingo card.

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**Author:** ![Sherrerd](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/sherrerd/32/8_2.png) [@Sherrerd](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Sherrerd)\
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AP now has:

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> …Palm Beach County Sheriff Ric Bradshaw said the U.S. Secret Service agents fired at a man pointing an AK-style rifle with a scope as Trump was on the course. Bradshaw said the gunman also had two backpacks hanging on a fence and a GoPro camera, and that he was about 400 yards to 500 yards away from Trump and hiding in shrubbery while the former president played golf on a nearby hole. The person dropped the weapon and fled in an SUV, and was later taken into custody in a neighboring county. …

So apparently it’s more than just someone carrying a long gun around.

> **[Trump was the subject of an apparent assassination attempt at his Florida...](https://apnews.com/article/trump-shooting-gunshots-florida-f62f8378d3a8ce7b2e99d6a8fb40aba9)**
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> The FBI says it's investigating “what appears to be an attempted assassination” of Donald Trump at his golf club in West Palm Beach, Florida.

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**Post date:** [September 15, 2024, 9:51pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/breaking-news-trump-safe-after-shots-fired-near-palm-beach-golf-club-2024-09-15/1007312/18 "2024-09-15T21:51:10Z")

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That article does not mention race. I double down on White Republican.

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**Post date:** [September 15, 2024, 9:55pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/breaking-news-trump-safe-after-shots-fired-near-palm-beach-golf-club-2024-09-15/1007312/19 "2024-09-15T21:55:28Z")

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> [@dougrb](#):
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> That article does not mention race. I double down on White Republican.

Interesting that the AP article–which is quite long–says nothing about any of that. It DOES say:

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> … Martin County Sheriff William D. Snyder said the suspect was apprehended within minutes of the FBI, Secret Service and Palm Beach County Sheriff’s Office putting out a “very urgent BOLO” — or “be on the lookout” alert” detailing the specific vehicle sought, license plate number and occupant description.
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> …Snyder told WPTV that the suspect “was not armed when we took him out of the car.”  
> The man had a calm, flat demeanor and showed little emotion when he was stopped by police, Snyder said, saying the suspect did not question why he was being pulled over …

(Same citation as in post 17.)

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**Post date:** [September 15, 2024, 9:58pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/breaking-news-trump-safe-after-shots-fired-near-palm-beach-golf-club-2024-09-15/1007312/20 "2024-09-15T21:58:24Z")

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Supposedly a pic of the suspect. Saw this on another site.

[![](https://i.imgur.com/oRCnKnA.png) ](https://i.imgur.com/oRCnKnA.png)

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