# Breaking news: Trump safe after shots fired near Palm Beach golf club 2024/09/15

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**Category:** Miscellaneous and Personal Stuff I Must Share\
**Tags:** breaking-news, trump\
**Created:** [September 15, 2024, 8:01pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/breaking-news-trump-safe-after-shots-fired-near-palm-beach-golf-club-2024-09-15/1007312 "2024-09-15T20:01:53Z")\
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**Author:** ![nearwildheaven](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/n/90db22/32.png) [@nearwildheaven](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/nearwildheaven)\
**Post date:** [September 15, 2024, 10:02pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/breaking-news-trump-safe-after-shots-fired-near-palm-beach-golf-club-2024-09-15/1007312/21 "2024-09-15T22:02:58Z")

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It’s no secret that I am no Trump fan, but I agree.

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**Author:** ![Pavelb1](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/p/439d5e/32.png) [@Pavelb1](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Pavelb1)\
**Post date:** [September 15, 2024, 10:06pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/breaking-news-trump-safe-after-shots-fired-near-palm-beach-golf-club-2024-09-15/1007312/22 "2024-09-15T22:06:30Z")

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I posted:

“The Squeeky Fromme Target and Practice Range has two less members”

I fully expect to win The Dennis Miller Comedy Scholarship for that one.

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**Author:** ![bobot](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/bobot/32/21622_2.png) [@bobot](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/bobot)\
**Post date:** [September 15, 2024, 10:09pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/breaking-news-trump-safe-after-shots-fired-near-palm-beach-golf-club-2024-09-15/1007312/23 "2024-09-15T22:09:30Z")

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If it was an assasination attempt: People, that’s not the way.  
Also if it was, when was the last time a politician was shot at more than once?

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**Author:** ![Mijin](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/mijin/32/9369_2.png) [@Mijin](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Mijin)\
**Post date:** [September 15, 2024, 10:10pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/breaking-news-trump-safe-after-shots-fired-near-palm-beach-golf-club-2024-09-15/1007312/24 "2024-09-15T22:10:07Z")

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never mind (it’s breaking news thread and I was starting to go into what it means for election)

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**Author:** ![Railer13](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/railer13/32/9742_2.png) [@Railer13](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Railer13)\
**Post date:** [September 15, 2024, 10:25pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/breaking-news-trump-safe-after-shots-fired-near-palm-beach-golf-club-2024-09-15/1007312/25 "2024-09-15T22:25:48Z")

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Perhaps somebody who has knowledge of weaponry can answer this for me.

The gun was an ‘AK-style rifle with a scope’, and the gunman was 400 to 500 yards away from Trump. Seems like that would be an extremely long range shot for even a trained marksman?

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**Author:** ![Snarky\_Kong](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/a183cd/32.png) [@Snarky\_Kong](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Snarky_Kong)\
**Post date:** [September 15, 2024, 10:28pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/breaking-news-trump-safe-after-shots-fired-near-palm-beach-golf-club-2024-09-15/1007312/26 "2024-09-15T22:28:31Z")

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Not extremely long rang, but long enough you’d need to practice. If he was hiding near the course and waiting for Trump to get closer, then that wouldn’t matter though.

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**Author:** ![Railer13](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/railer13/32/9742_2.png) [@Railer13](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Railer13)\
**Post date:** [September 15, 2024, 10:29pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/breaking-news-trump-safe-after-shots-fired-near-palm-beach-golf-club-2024-09-15/1007312/27 "2024-09-15T22:29:54Z")

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> [@Snarky\_Kong](#):
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> Not extremely long rang, but long enough you’d need to practice

Thanks. And your point about waiting is well taken.

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**Author:** ![CoolHandCox](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/coolhandcox/32/16233_2.png) [@CoolHandCox](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/CoolHandCox)\
**Post date:** [September 15, 2024, 10:30pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/breaking-news-trump-safe-after-shots-fired-near-palm-beach-golf-club-2024-09-15/1007312/28 "2024-09-15T22:30:07Z")

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No. Of course it depends on skill.

It’s not even long range which is usually defined as 660yards + (600m).

“Extreme” long range is over 1,000 yards.

Late: I’ll add that it’s a real world scenario (not a target, even if moving, at a range) and that makes it a tougher shot.

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**Author:** ![Kolak\_of\_Twilo](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/kolak_of_twilo/32/73_2.png) [@Kolak\_of\_Twilo](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Kolak_of_Twilo)\
**Post date:** [September 15, 2024, 10:33pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/breaking-news-trump-safe-after-shots-fired-near-palm-beach-golf-club-2024-09-15/1007312/29 "2024-09-15T22:33:27Z")

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MSNBC reporting the 58 year old in custody is named Ryan Wesley Routh. Confirmed by NYT.

(Edited to get the name correct.)

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**Author:** ![markn\_1](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/f9ae1b/32.png) [@markn\_1](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/markn_1)\
**Post date:** [September 15, 2024, 10:34pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/breaking-news-trump-safe-after-shots-fired-near-palm-beach-golf-club-2024-09-15/1007312/30 "2024-09-15T22:34:39Z")

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> [@Whack-a-Mole](#):
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> A lot rides on who shot at who first.

I’m pretty sure Han shot first.

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**Author:** ![kenobi\_65](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/kenobi_65/32/13178_2.png) [@kenobi\_65](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/kenobi_65)\
**Post date:** [September 15, 2024, 10:36pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/breaking-news-trump-safe-after-shots-fired-near-palm-beach-golf-club-2024-09-15/1007312/31 "2024-09-15T22:36:27Z")

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> [@Kolak\_of\_Twilo](#):
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> Ryan Wesley Rouse

According to the [AP](https://apnews.com/live/trump-shooting-west-palm-beach-updates) (which is citing law enforcement officials), the spelling is Ryan Wesley Routh.

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**Post date:** [September 15, 2024, 10:36pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/breaking-news-trump-safe-after-shots-fired-near-palm-beach-golf-club-2024-09-15/1007312/32 "2024-09-15T22:36:50Z")

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Thoughts and prayers….

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**Author:** ![Broomstick](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/broomstick/32/246_2.png) [@Broomstick](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Broomstick)\
**Post date:** [September 15, 2024, 10:37pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/breaking-news-trump-safe-after-shots-fired-near-palm-beach-golf-club-2024-09-15/1007312/33 "2024-09-15T22:37:16Z")

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So… White, male, and… ?

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**Post date:** [September 15, 2024, 10:38pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/breaking-news-trump-safe-after-shots-fired-near-palm-beach-golf-club-2024-09-15/1007312/34 "2024-09-15T22:38:59Z")

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> [@Broomstick](#):
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> White, male, and… ?

Nothing else released to the public at this point, so no idea if he was politically motivated, just a wacko, or anything else.

_Edit: I’m watching MSNBC, and Ken Dilanian is reporting that the suspect appears to have “an extensive criminal record.”_

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**Author:** ![Kolak\_of\_Twilo](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/kolak_of_twilo/32/73_2.png) [@Kolak\_of\_Twilo](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Kolak_of_Twilo)\
**Post date:** [September 15, 2024, 10:40pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/breaking-news-trump-safe-after-shots-fired-near-palm-beach-golf-club-2024-09-15/1007312/35 "2024-09-15T22:40:44Z")

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From Hawaii. I’ve found what appears to be his LinkedIn profile but I’m not clear on rules about sharing a link to it.

The photo on the profile appears to match the picture of him shared earlier. Looks like he’s originally from North Carolina and has a business in Hawaii building houses. I guess I shouldn’t share more details until it is confirmed this is 100% the actual guy but it looks like him to me.

I see a post on Xitter from a guy named Rob Pyers (no idea who he is) saying FEC records show Routh contributed to the Tom Steyer, Andrew Yang, Elizabeth Warren, Tulsi Gabbard, and Beto O’Rourke 2020 presidential campaigns.

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**Author:** ![Moriarty](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/moriarty/32/49_2.png) [@Moriarty](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Moriarty)\
**Post date:** [September 15, 2024, 10:45pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/breaking-news-trump-safe-after-shots-fired-near-palm-beach-golf-club-2024-09-15/1007312/36 "2024-09-15T22:45:33Z")

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> [@bobot](#):
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> when was the last time a politician was shot at more than once?

Maybe Gerald Ford (twice in September of 1975; interestingly, both attempted assassins were women)

> [@Broomstick](#):
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> So… White, male, and… ?

A Taylor Swift fan?

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**Post date:** [September 15, 2024, 10:46pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/breaking-news-trump-safe-after-shots-fired-near-palm-beach-golf-club-2024-09-15/1007312/37 "2024-09-15T22:46:20Z")

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This may be his Twitter account:

[https://x.com/RyanRouth](https://x.com/RyanRouth)

If so, he’s a kook (by his tweets, at least) with unclear political leanings.

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**Author:** ![Kolak\_of\_Twilo](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/kolak_of_twilo/32/73_2.png) [@Kolak\_of\_Twilo](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Kolak_of_Twilo)\
**Post date:** [September 15, 2024, 10:47pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/breaking-news-trump-safe-after-shots-fired-near-palm-beach-golf-club-2024-09-15/1007312/38 "2024-09-15T22:47:49Z")

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His FB page looks to be gone but I saw some screen shots being shared online in support of Ukraine and very anti-Russia and DJT. No idea of course if these are genuine but they look to be.

Also, seeing some info he was involved with trying to recruit people to go fight in Ukraine.

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**Author:** ![CoolHandCox](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/coolhandcox/32/16233_2.png) [@CoolHandCox](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/CoolHandCox)\
**Post date:** [September 15, 2024, 10:55pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/breaking-news-trump-safe-after-shots-fired-near-palm-beach-golf-club-2024-09-15/1007312/39 "2024-09-15T22:55:51Z")

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And a Tulsi Gabbard supporter and Covid Conspiracy theorist.

Kind of need to take it all with a grain of salt since it’s impossible to tell what is real or not.

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**Author:** ![bobot](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/bobot/32/21622_2.png) [@bobot](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/bobot)\
**Post date:** [September 15, 2024, 10:56pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/breaking-news-trump-safe-after-shots-fired-near-palm-beach-golf-club-2024-09-15/1007312/40 "2024-09-15T22:56:10Z")

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Oh, thanks! I recall the Squeaky Fromme one, but was unaware of a second one.

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