# Breaking news: Trump safe after shots fired near Palm Beach golf club 2024/09/15 **URL:** \ **Category:** Miscellaneous and Personal Stuff I Must Share\ **Tags:** breaking-news, trump\ **Created:** [September 15, 2024, 8:01pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/breaking-news-trump-safe-after-shots-fired-near-palm-beach-golf-club-2024-09-15/1007312 "2024-09-15T20:01:53Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 20\ **Page:** 3
**Author:** ![Kolak\_of\_Twilo](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/kolak_of_twilo/32/73_2.png) [@Kolak\_of\_Twilo](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Kolak_of_Twilo)\ **Post date:** [September 15, 2024, 10:58pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/breaking-news-trump-safe-after-shots-fired-near-palm-beach-golf-club-2024-09-15/1007312/41 "2024-09-15T22:58:15Z")
In fairness, yes the Tulsi support jumped out at me but he also gave money to Warren and Beto among others. Clearly unbalanced but I think at the end of the day he is a Democrat. Unhinged yes, but likely a Democrat. ETA: the LinkedIn account I mentioned above can be found here - [Ryan Routh](https://www.linkedin.com/in/ryan-routh-81a22611/) Same picture as the Xitter and FB pages but nothing political other than a picture with a lot of Ukrainian flags. ---
**Author:** ![Moriarty](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/moriarty/32/49_2.png) [@Moriarty](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Moriarty)\ **Post date:** [September 15, 2024, 11:01pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/breaking-news-trump-safe-after-shots-fired-near-palm-beach-golf-club-2024-09-15/1007312/42 "2024-09-15T23:01:56Z")
> [@bobot](#): > > I recall the Squeaky Fromme one, but was unaware of a second one. 17 days later Sarah Jane Moore got off 2 shots at Ford in San Francisco. ---
**Author:** ![CoolHandCox](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/coolhandcox/32/16233_2.png) [@CoolHandCox](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/CoolHandCox)\ **Post date:** [September 15, 2024, 11:02pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/breaking-news-trump-safe-after-shots-fired-near-palm-beach-golf-club-2024-09-15/1007312/43 "2024-09-15T23:02:46Z")
He has a unique last name (he’s not John Smith), but fake stuff goes up instantly and it looks like the real stuff. It does seem legit and you may be right but it’s really early to trust a twitter or FB etc account screenshot. At least for me, I’ve been burned before. ---
**Author:** ![Kolak\_of\_Twilo](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/kolak_of_twilo/32/73_2.png) [@Kolak\_of\_Twilo](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Kolak_of_Twilo)\ **Post date:** [September 15, 2024, 11:06pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/breaking-news-trump-safe-after-shots-fired-near-palm-beach-golf-club-2024-09-15/1007312/44 "2024-09-15T23:06:52Z")
Oh I get it. But they all seem to have Ukraine as an issue he is upset/passionate about. The LinkedIn one in particular is totally non-political other than the picture with all the Ukrainian flags. And it is still a live page. ---
**Author:** ![Son\_of\_a\_Rich](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/son_of_a_rich/32/5439_2.png) [@Son\_of\_a\_Rich](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Son_of_a_Rich)\ **Post date:** [September 15, 2024, 11:09pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/breaking-news-trump-safe-after-shots-fired-near-palm-beach-golf-club-2024-09-15/1007312/45 "2024-09-15T23:09:20Z")
trump was thinking: “please be an illegal, please be an illegal…” ---
**Author:** ![Snarky\_Kong](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/a183cd/32.png) [@Snarky\_Kong](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Snarky_Kong)\ **Post date:** [September 15, 2024, 11:12pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/breaking-news-trump-safe-after-shots-fired-near-palm-beach-golf-club-2024-09-15/1007312/46 "2024-09-15T23:12:44Z")
> [@Kolak\_of\_Twilo](#): > > Clearly unbalanced but I think at the end of the day he is a Democrat. Unhinged yes, but likely a Democrat. Tump voter and wanted a Haley / Vivek ticket. ---
**Author:** ![Pavelb1](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/p/439d5e/32.png) [@Pavelb1](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Pavelb1)\ **Post date:** [September 15, 2024, 11:13pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/breaking-news-trump-safe-after-shots-fired-near-palm-beach-golf-club-2024-09-15/1007312/47 "2024-09-15T23:13:00Z")
Looks like a straight nut. And the straight nuts trump Trump cards. Glad he was flushed out. Probably barely has a pair of braincells ---
**Author:** ![Little\_Nemo](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/little_nemo/32/3120_2.png) [@Little\_Nemo](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Little_Nemo)\ **Post date:** [September 15, 2024, 11:17pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/breaking-news-trump-safe-after-shots-fired-near-palm-beach-golf-club-2024-09-15/1007312/48 "2024-09-15T23:17:54Z")
> [@dougrb](#): > > I’m checking “White” and “Republican” on my bingo card. Not me. I’m going for the long odds and betting on “time travelling cyborg”. ---
**Author:** ![Ann\_Hedonia](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/ann_hedonia/32/319_2.png) [@Ann\_Hedonia](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Ann_Hedonia)\ **Post date:** [September 15, 2024, 11:45pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/breaking-news-trump-safe-after-shots-fired-near-palm-beach-golf-club-2024-09-15/1007312/49 "2024-09-15T23:45:44Z")
> [@Kolak\_of\_Twilo](#): > > In fairness, yes the Tulsi support jumped out at me but he also gave money to Warren and Beto among others. > > Clearly unbalanced but I think at the end of the day he is a Democrat. Unhinged yes, but likely a Democrat. > > ETA: the LinkedIn account I mentioned above can be found here - [Ryan Routh](https://www.linkedin.com/in/ryan-routh-81a22611/) > Same picture as the Xitter and FB pages but nothing political other than a picture with a lot of Ukrainian flags. The FEC political contribution database doesn’t show a record of any contributions made by anyone named Ryan Routh and they’re usually pretty accurate, probably moreso than some random guy with an agenda on Twitter. ---
**Author:** ![Kolak\_of\_Twilo](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/kolak_of_twilo/32/73_2.png) [@Kolak\_of\_Twilo](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Kolak_of_Twilo)\ **Post date:** [September 15, 2024, 11:54pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/breaking-news-trump-safe-after-shots-fired-near-palm-beach-golf-club-2024-09-15/1007312/50 "2024-09-15T23:54:21Z")
Point taken. So not sure what it was that I saw. The Xitter account iiandyiii linked is now suspended so guessing that one was likely real. ---
**Author:** ![bobot](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/bobot/32/21622_2.png) [@bobot](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/bobot)\ **Post date:** [September 15, 2024, 11:58pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/breaking-news-trump-safe-after-shots-fired-near-palm-beach-golf-club-2024-09-15/1007312/51 "2024-09-15T23:58:34Z")
> [@Moriarty](#): > > 17 days later Sarah Jane Moore got off 2 shots at Ford in San Francisco. This called to my dumb mind Carrie Fisher from the Blues Brothers. ---
**Author:** ![Kolak\_of\_Twilo](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/kolak_of_twilo/32/73_2.png) [@Kolak\_of\_Twilo](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Kolak_of_Twilo)\ **Post date:** [September 16, 2024, 12:10am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/breaking-news-trump-safe-after-shots-fired-near-palm-beach-golf-club-2024-09-15/1007312/52 "2024-09-16T00:10:59Z")
MSNBC reporting confirmation of some of the things mentioned by different posters upthread - lives in Hawaii, originally from NC, the FB and LinkedIn accounts appear to be his but no mention of the Xitter. They also mentioned he had a history of posting about Ukraine and may have visited Kyiv at one point. Also, he apparently has a long criminal history record in North Carolina calling into question whether he should have had access to an AK style long gun. ---
**Author:** ![Ann\_Hedonia](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/ann_hedonia/32/319_2.png) [@Ann\_Hedonia](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Ann_Hedonia)\ **Post date:** [September 16, 2024, 12:22am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/breaking-news-trump-safe-after-shots-fired-near-palm-beach-golf-club-2024-09-15/1007312/53 "2024-09-16T00:22:03Z")
I think I saw the Twitter account before it was deleted, and there were maybe a dozen or so strongly pro-Ukrainian posts, all from February 2022, and a couple of posts from 2020 regarding Belarus, IIRC. That was it. ---
**Author:** ![Loach](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/loach/32/350_2.png) [@Loach](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Loach)\ **Post date:** [September 16, 2024, 12:35am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/breaking-news-trump-safe-after-shots-fired-near-palm-beach-golf-club-2024-09-15/1007312/54 "2024-09-16T00:35:53Z")
This article has more information on the suspect, his involvement with Ukraine and his criminal record. > **[Ryan Wesley Routh, would-be Trump assassin, fought in Ukraine, supports war](https://www.newsweek.com/donald-trump-suspect-shooting-assassination-attempt-west-palm-beach-1954191)** > > A suspect, identified as Ryan Wesley Routh, 58, is in custody after an apparent assassination attempt against President Donald Trump at his Florida golf club ---
**Author:** ![Aspenglow](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/aspenglow/32/76_2.png) [@Aspenglow](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Aspenglow)\ **Post date:** [September 16, 2024, 12:41am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/breaking-news-trump-safe-after-shots-fired-near-palm-beach-golf-club-2024-09-15/1007312/55 "2024-09-16T00:41:07Z")
It was just reported on MSNBC that he tried to fight in Ukraine, but due to his age and lack of experience, they turned him down. He returned to the States to attempt to recruit others who could go and fight for Ukraine. So far, it doesn’t sound like he got past the picture stage of “fighting for Ukraine.” ---
**Author:** ![Slithy\_Tove](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/slithy_tove/32/18248_2.png) [@Slithy\_Tove](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Slithy_Tove)\ **Post date:** [September 16, 2024, 1:09am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/breaking-news-trump-safe-after-shots-fired-near-palm-beach-golf-club-2024-09-15/1007312/56 "2024-09-16T01:09:59Z")
> [@Railer13](#): > > Perhaps somebody who has knowledge of weaponry can answer this for me. > > The gun was an ‘AK-style rifle with a scope’, and the gunman was 400 to 500 yards away from Trump. Seems like that would be an extremely long range shot for even a trained marksman? It’s nobody’s sniper rifle of choice. Despite Full Metal Jacket, North Vietnamese snipers used Mosin Nagants designed for the Tsar’s army. At four hundred yards even a good shot would land inside 8” from bullseye. ---
**Author:** ![Ludovic](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/l/7ab992/32.png) [@Ludovic](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Ludovic)\ **Post date:** [September 16, 2024, 1:10am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/breaking-news-trump-safe-after-shots-fired-near-palm-beach-golf-club-2024-09-15/1007312/57 "2024-09-16T01:10:05Z")
Someone in r/Ukraine says that they are vaguely familiar with him as someone trying to get people to fight in Ukraine, but, not only unofficially, but firmly not allowed. The poster claims that he was told “to avoid” Routh but such a vague construction could mean anything from “don’t bother sending people to him because it’s useless” all the way to “whoa, there are some red flags there.” [https://www.reddit.com/r/ukraine/comments/1fhr2um/if\_you\_see\_news\_about\_ryan\_routh\_who\_allegedly/](https://www.reddit.com/r/ukraine/comments/1fhr2um/if_you_see_news_about_ryan_routh_who_allegedly/) ---
**Author:** ![Mallard](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/b9bd4f/32.png) [@Mallard](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Mallard)\ **Post date:** [September 16, 2024, 1:17am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/breaking-news-trump-safe-after-shots-fired-near-palm-beach-golf-club-2024-09-15/1007312/58 "2024-09-16T01:17:19Z")
Hopefully the gunman isn’t a Haitian legal immigrant sympathizer. Sure don’t want the ultra right cause getting any credibility. ---
**Author:** ![puzzlegal](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/puzzlegal/32/3827_2.png) [@puzzlegal](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/puzzlegal)\ **Post date:** [September 16, 2024, 1:32am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/breaking-news-trump-safe-after-shots-fired-near-palm-beach-golf-club-2024-09-15/1007312/59 "2024-09-16T01:32:27Z")
Moderating: Just a reminder that this is a breaking news thread. Even though I’m sure people have political reactions to this news, please don’t post them here. (You might want to start a new thread, maybe in p&e ) There’s have been a few posts already that shouldn’t have been made here. Let’s all try to dial back and stick to the news Thanks. ---
**Author:** ![SuntanLotion](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/suntanlotion/32/16165_2.png) [@SuntanLotion](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/SuntanLotion)\ **Post date:** [September 16, 2024, 1:49am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/breaking-news-trump-safe-after-shots-fired-near-palm-beach-golf-club-2024-09-15/1007312/60 "2024-09-16T01:49:57Z")
At least hes been captured alive so maybe he will tell them his motive. [Previous page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/breaking-news-trump-safe-after-shots-fired-near-palm-beach-golf-club-2024-09-15/1007312.md?page=2) [Next page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/breaking-news-trump-safe-after-shots-fired-near-palm-beach-golf-club-2024-09-15/1007312.md?page=4)