# Breaking - The Queen is unwell (has died): 8 Sep 2022 **URL:** \ **Category:** Miscellaneous and Personal Stuff I Must Share\ **Tags:** breaking-news\ **Created:** [September 8, 2022, 11:49am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/breaking-the-queen-is-unwell-has-died-8-sep-2022/971212 "2022-09-08T11:49:17Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 20\ **Page:** 10
**Author:** ![Mortimus](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/e36b37/32.png) [@Mortimus](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Mortimus)\ **Post date:** [September 8, 2022, 7:41pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/breaking-the-queen-is-unwell-has-died-8-sep-2022/971212/181 "2022-09-08T19:41:01Z")
> [@Hypno-Toad](#): > > And everyone in the line of succession takes one step forward. That’s that’s what it’s like waiting to get on the Green Bay Packer’s season ticket list. It can take several generations. ---
**Author:** ![Tamerlane](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/tamerlane/32/7602_2.png) [@Tamerlane](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Tamerlane)\ **Post date:** [September 8, 2022, 7:41pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/breaking-the-queen-is-unwell-has-died-8-sep-2022/971212/182 "2022-09-08T19:41:28Z")
> [@Teuton](#): > > Harry Henry Charles Albert David - Harry for short 🙂. If he ever came to the throne he’d likely only be “King Harry” in an unofficial way. Henry IX or Charles IV would be the most likely actual choices. ---
**Author:** ![Just\_Asking\_Questions](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/j/ba9def/32.png) [@Just\_Asking\_Questions](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Just_Asking_Questions)\ **Post date:** [September 8, 2022, 7:45pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/breaking-the-queen-is-unwell-has-died-8-sep-2022/971212/183 "2022-09-08T19:45:14Z")
> [@Dewey\_Finn](#): > > His proper name is Henry. an’ every one was a 'enery ---
**Author:** ![Horatius](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/horatius/32/3572_2.png) [@Horatius](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Horatius)\ **Post date:** [September 8, 2022, 7:45pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/breaking-the-queen-is-unwell-has-died-8-sep-2022/971212/184 "2022-09-08T19:45:18Z")
> [@Robot\_Arm](#): > > I suppose if anyone can, it’s the King of England. This is the country where they [planted new oak trees in anticipation of needing them in a few hundred years to re-build the dining hall at Oxford](https://www.atlasobscura.com/places/oak-beams-new-college-oxford). I have no doubt that some Royal Pack Rat has a strategic reserve of anointing oils squirreled away somewhere. ---
**Author:** ![rocking\_chair](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/rocking_chair/32/2918_2.png) [@rocking\_chair](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/rocking_chair)\ **Post date:** [September 8, 2022, 7:46pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/breaking-the-queen-is-unwell-has-died-8-sep-2022/971212/185 "2022-09-08T19:46:00Z")
this happened at windsor castle. double rainbow was seen at buckingham. us flag at half staff for the next few days for the queen. [Chris Jackson on Twitter: “As the flag is lowered to half mast over Windsor Castle an incredible rainbow appears over the castle, for a few minutes and then just like that it was gone…. https://t.co/nOIQCAxWQQ” / Twitter](https://twitter.com/ChrisJack_Getty/status/1567933266145017857?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw%7Ctwcamp%5Etweetembed%7Ctwterm%5E1567933580265005057%7Ctwgr%5E3160cc6a24f6d5e8286553341dd83b6db33e3fd0%7Ctwcon%5Es2_&ref_url=https%3A%2F%2Fwww.huffpost.com%2Fentry%2Fdouble-rainbow-appeared-over-buckingham-palace-right-before-news-of-queens-death_n_631a26c3e4b027aa40592afc) ---
**Author:** ![ThelmaLou](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/thelmalou/32/390_2.png) [@ThelmaLou](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/ThelmaLou)\ **Post date:** [September 8, 2022, 7:47pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/breaking-the-queen-is-unwell-has-died-8-sep-2022/971212/186 "2022-09-08T19:47:53Z")
🎶 _Her Majesty’s a pretty nice girl_ _But she doesn’t have a lot to say_ _Her Majesty’s a pretty nice girl_ _But she changes from day to day_ _I wanna tell her that I love her a lot_ _But I gotta get a belly full of wine_ _Her Majesty’s a pretty nice girl_ _Someday I’m gonna make her mine, oh yeah_ _Someday I’m gonna make her mine._ 🎵 Yours was a life of duty, Your Majesty. Now rest in peace. ---
**Author:** ![Red\_Wiggler](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/red_wiggler/32/13190_2.png) [@Red\_Wiggler](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Red_Wiggler)\ **Post date:** [September 8, 2022, 7:55pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/breaking-the-queen-is-unwell-has-died-8-sep-2022/971212/187 "2022-09-08T19:55:13Z")
One of his middle names is Arthur, big lost opportunity there. ---
**Author:** ![Red\_Wiggler](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/red_wiggler/32/13190_2.png) [@Red\_Wiggler](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Red_Wiggler)\ **Post date:** [September 8, 2022, 7:58pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/breaking-the-queen-is-unwell-has-died-8-sep-2022/971212/188 "2022-09-08T19:58:00Z")
Shades of Tom Wambsgans and Cousin Greg! ---
**Author:** ![Acsenray](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/acsenray/32/4519_2.png) [@Acsenray](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Acsenray)\ **Post date:** [September 8, 2022, 8:00pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/breaking-the-queen-is-unwell-has-died-8-sep-2022/971212/189 "2022-09-08T20:00:20Z")
> [@BobLibDem](#): > > C III R And, just in case anyone doesn’t know, it will stand for “Carolus III Rex.” ---
**Author:** ![JRDelirious](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/jrdelirious/32/9531_2.png) [@JRDelirious](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/JRDelirious)\ **Post date:** [September 8, 2022, 8:04pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/breaking-the-queen-is-unwell-has-died-8-sep-2022/971212/190 "2022-09-08T20:04:20Z")
> [@Acsenray](#): > > And, just in case anyone doesn’t know, it will stand for “Carolus III Rex.” Sabaton fans’ ears perk up… 😝 ---
**Author:** ![AK84](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/a/85e7bf/32.png) [@AK84](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/AK84)\ **Post date:** [September 8, 2022, 8:20pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/breaking-the-queen-is-unwell-has-died-8-sep-2022/971212/191 "2022-09-08T20:20:12Z")
And Archie is now, Prince Archie, since he is the grandson of a monarch. Lilibet is Princess Lillibet. ---
**Author:** ![AK84](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/a/85e7bf/32.png) [@AK84](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/AK84)\ **Post date:** [September 8, 2022, 8:23pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/breaking-the-queen-is-unwell-has-died-8-sep-2022/971212/192 "2022-09-08T20:23:04Z")
> [@Robot\_Arm](#): > > I suppose if anyone can, it’s the King of England. Charles III is the King of the United Kingdom. There hasn’t been a King of England since…320 years and 6 months (exactly. ---
**Author:** ![Bonum\_Legatum](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/bonum_legatum/32/6183_2.png) [@Bonum\_Legatum](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Bonum_Legatum)\ **Post date:** [September 8, 2022, 8:26pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/breaking-the-queen-is-unwell-has-died-8-sep-2022/971212/193 "2022-09-08T20:26:23Z")
> [@Hari\_Seldon](#): > > Eisenhower became president on Jan. 20, 1953. Thank you. I stand corrected. ---
**Author:** ![Fiendish\_Astronaut](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/fiendish_astronaut/32/3295_2.png) [@Fiendish\_Astronaut](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Fiendish_Astronaut)\ **Post date:** [September 8, 2022, 8:27pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/breaking-the-queen-is-unwell-has-died-8-sep-2022/971212/194 "2022-09-08T20:27:10Z")
This is my favourite story about the Queen: [![](https://img.youtube.com/vi/Uw9g1Q74t4s/maxresdefault.jpg "Platinum Jubilee: Richard Griffin on the Queen's sense of humour") ](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Uw9g1Q74t4s) ---
**Author:** ![Schnitte](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/schnitte/32/9033_2.png) [@Schnitte](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Schnitte)\ **Post date:** [September 8, 2022, 8:28pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/breaking-the-queen-is-unwell-has-died-8-sep-2022/971212/195 "2022-09-08T20:28:40Z")
As for the name of the dynasty: That was discussed as early as 1960; the idea was floated at the time that, owing to the tradition of children being considered part of the father’s rather than the mother’s family, Elizabeth’s descendants would be the House of Mountbatten rather than Windsor, much the same way Victoria’s death meant the reigning dynasty changed from Hanover to Saxe-Coburg-Gotha. [Alas, no:](https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/House_of_Windsor#Descendants_of_Elizabeth_II) The (now late) Queen ruled that the dynasty would continue to be named Windsor, although, as a compromise, the family name of those members of the Royal Family who have one was set to Mountbatten-Windsor. ---
**Author:** ![AK84](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/a/85e7bf/32.png) [@AK84](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/AK84)\ **Post date:** [September 8, 2022, 8:28pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/breaking-the-queen-is-unwell-has-died-8-sep-2022/971212/196 "2022-09-08T20:28:51Z")
Whiles it’s possible, even likely that most of us will see both William and George become King, it’s kind of sad that it’s possible, even likely there won’t be another Queen Regnant for centuries. 51 years spectated EIIR and VR. 123 years Victoria and Anne. 98 years Elizabeth I and Anne (I am ignoring Mary Mrs William of Orange here). If Charles, William and George all live to the age Elizabeth did, earliest a new Queen Regnant can ascend to the throne would be in 2109. ---
**Author:** ![AK84](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/a/85e7bf/32.png) [@AK84](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/AK84)\ **Post date:** [September 8, 2022, 8:29pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/breaking-the-queen-is-unwell-has-died-8-sep-2022/971212/197 "2022-09-08T20:29:59Z")
While Truman was President when she became Queen, he had been replaced by Ike when she was crowned. ---
**Author:** ![Dewey\_Finn](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/dewey_finn/32/4222_2.png) [@Dewey\_Finn](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Dewey_Finn)\ **Post date:** [September 8, 2022, 8:30pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/breaking-the-queen-is-unwell-has-died-8-sep-2022/971212/198 "2022-09-08T20:30:37Z")
> [@AK84](#): > > > [@Robot\_Arm](#): > > > > I suppose if anyone can, it’s the King of England. > > Charles III is the King of the United Kingdom. > There hasn’t been a King of England since…320 years and 6 months (exactly. Not this again. ---
**Author:** ![AK84](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/a/85e7bf/32.png) [@AK84](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/AK84)\ **Post date:** [September 8, 2022, 8:34pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/breaking-the-queen-is-unwell-has-died-8-sep-2022/971212/199 "2022-09-08T20:34:43Z")
Yes. Can people stop saying King of England at the outset. It was bad enough when they kept saying Queen of England. Let’s nip it in the bud. ---
**Author:** ![Schnitte](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/schnitte/32/9033_2.png) [@Schnitte](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Schnitte)\ **Post date:** [September 8, 2022, 8:35pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/breaking-the-queen-is-unwell-has-died-8-sep-2022/971212/200 "2022-09-08T20:35:24Z")
> [@AK84](#): > > Whiles it’s possible, even likely that most of us will see both William and George become King, it’s kind of sad that it’s possible, even likely there won’t be another Queen Regnant for centuries. Since male primogeniture has now been abolished, there is an even chance in each generation for the next monarch to be male or female. So I’d say it’s unlikely that it will take centuries before we see the next Queen regnant. [Previous page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/breaking-the-queen-is-unwell-has-died-8-sep-2022/971212.md?page=9) [Next page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/breaking-the-queen-is-unwell-has-died-8-sep-2022/971212.md?page=11)