# Breaking - The Queen is unwell (has died): 8 Sep 2022 **URL:** \ **Category:** Miscellaneous and Personal Stuff I Must Share\ **Tags:** breaking-news\ **Created:** [September 8, 2022, 11:49am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/breaking-the-queen-is-unwell-has-died-8-sep-2022/971212 "2022-09-08T11:49:17Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 20\ **Page:** 14
**Author:** ![I\_Love\_Me\_Vol.I](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/i_love_me_vol.i/32/521_2.png) [@I\_Love\_Me\_Vol.I](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/I_Love_Me_Vol.I)\ **Post date:** [September 8, 2022, 11:56pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/breaking-the-queen-is-unwell-has-died-8-sep-2022/971212/261 "2022-09-08T23:56:54Z")
> [@DCnDC](#): > > The Washington Post had a convenient graphic: As far as ‘convenient graphics’ go, that one isn’t. What a convoluted mess! ---
**Author:** ![Leaper](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/l/4bbf92/32.png) [@Leaper](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Leaper)\ **Post date:** [September 9, 2022, 12:04am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/breaking-the-queen-is-unwell-has-died-8-sep-2022/971212/262 "2022-09-09T00:04:32Z")
Sure. I guess my musing was more “should” than “will.” If this huge state funeral is followed by stories of pensioners freezing in their homes in December, it’s at the least a bad look. ---
**Author:** ![Dewey\_Finn](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/dewey_finn/32/4222_2.png) [@Dewey\_Finn](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Dewey_Finn)\ **Post date:** [September 9, 2022, 12:07am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/breaking-the-queen-is-unwell-has-died-8-sep-2022/971212/263 "2022-09-09T00:07:22Z")
Lots of dignitaries and media will be traveling to London for the funeral. To a certain extent, it’s going to be good for the economy. ---
**Author:** ![Bootb](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/b/e19b73/32.png) [@Bootb](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Bootb)\ **Post date:** [September 9, 2022, 12:11am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/breaking-the-queen-is-unwell-has-died-8-sep-2022/971212/264 "2022-09-09T00:11:58Z")
> [@Dewey\_Finn](#): > > Anyone else think she deliberately stayed alive long enough that Boris Johnson was no longer prime minister when she died? The timing of that was incredibly lucky. I would not be at all surprised if Liz Truss has thought to herself over the last few hours, “This is not what I signed up for.” ---
**Author:** ![Dewey\_Finn](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/dewey_finn/32/4222_2.png) [@Dewey\_Finn](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Dewey_Finn)\ **Post date:** [September 9, 2022, 12:12am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/breaking-the-queen-is-unwell-has-died-8-sep-2022/971212/265 "2022-09-09T00:12:41Z")
I just can’t imagine the clown prince that is Boris Johnson’s persona being appropriate at this time. ---
**Author:** ![PhillyGuy](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/p/ed655f/32.png) [@PhillyGuy](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/PhillyGuy)\ **Post date:** [September 9, 2022, 12:13am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/breaking-the-queen-is-unwell-has-died-8-sep-2022/971212/266 "2022-09-09T00:13:19Z")
> [@Dewey\_Finn](#): > > Anyone else think she deliberately stayed alive long enough that Boris Johnson was no longer prime minister when she died? I’m open to the possibility that, depending on the cause of death, some of us can live minutes, and maybe hours, longer by sheer act of will, but days seems unlikley. However, I suspect she had enough emotional by-in to the non-political stance of the job of constitutional monarch that anti-Boris feelings would not have predominated. I suppose that she did want to go through the formalities with Liz Truss on Tuesday, even if it was difficult, because that was her role, not because she dislikes Johnson. If conscious, she may have made an effort to hang on for the arrival of family members. Or it could just be a myth that you can will yourself more time. ---
**Author:** ![Slow\_Moving\_Vehicle](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/slow_moving_vehicle/32/291_2.png) [@Slow\_Moving\_Vehicle](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Slow_Moving_Vehicle)\ **Post date:** [September 9, 2022, 12:13am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/breaking-the-queen-is-unwell-has-died-8-sep-2022/971212/267 "2022-09-09T00:13:52Z")
> [@dtilque](#): > > > [@Slow\_Moving\_Vehicle](#): > > > > NPR is reporting that Charles will take Charles III as his regnal name. Given the reputation of the Nos. I and II, I’m surprised. > > As long as he doesn’t lose his head about it, he should be fine Well, he’s already famous for his mistress… ---
**Author:** ![Rilchiam](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/r/2bfe46/32.png) [@Rilchiam](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Rilchiam)\ **Post date:** [September 9, 2022, 12:48am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/breaking-the-queen-is-unwell-has-died-8-sep-2022/971212/268 "2022-09-09T00:48:07Z")
Did I miss something, or has Princess Anne not shown up? Except for Sophie Wessex, all the family members I’ve seen today are men. ---
**Author:** ![Dewey\_Finn](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/dewey_finn/32/4222_2.png) [@Dewey\_Finn](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Dewey_Finn)\ **Post date:** [September 9, 2022, 12:49am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/breaking-the-queen-is-unwell-has-died-8-sep-2022/971212/269 "2022-09-09T00:49:35Z")
What I’m finding is that Anne was already there. ---
**Author:** ![Rilchiam](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/r/2bfe46/32.png) [@Rilchiam](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Rilchiam)\ **Post date:** [September 9, 2022, 1:00am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/breaking-the-queen-is-unwell-has-died-8-sep-2022/971212/270 "2022-09-09T01:00:39Z")
D’oh! Okay, thank you. ---
**Author:** ![DrDeth](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/b487fb/32.png) [@DrDeth](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/DrDeth)\ **Post date:** [September 9, 2022, 1:01am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/breaking-the-queen-is-unwell-has-died-8-sep-2022/971212/271 "2022-09-09T01:01:26Z")
God Save the King. ---
**Author:** ![Johnny\_L.A](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/johnny_l.a/32/1084_2.png) [@Johnny\_L.A](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Johnny_L.A)\ **Post date:** [September 9, 2022, 1:16am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/breaking-the-queen-is-unwell-has-died-8-sep-2022/971212/272 "2022-09-09T01:16:27Z")
Obviously, this thread is growing quickly. Has a cause of death been announced? It seemed rather sudden. ---
**Author:** ![Dewey\_Finn](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/dewey_finn/32/4222_2.png) [@Dewey\_Finn](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Dewey_Finn)\ **Post date:** [September 9, 2022, 1:24am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/breaking-the-queen-is-unwell-has-died-8-sep-2022/971212/273 "2022-09-09T01:24:27Z")
> [@Hypno-Toad](#): > > > [@Dewey\_Finn](#): > > > > The funeral is probably going to be quite a big event, with leaders from around the world visiting. > > Including Russia? Vladimir Putin issued a statement of condolence, “The most important events in the recent history of the United Kingdom are inextricably linked with the name of Her Majesty. For many decades, Elizabeth II rightfully enjoyed the love and respect of her subjects, as well as authority on the world stage.” He may not attend the funeral, but I expect Russia will be represented. ---
**Author:** ![rocking\_chair](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/rocking_chair/32/2918_2.png) [@rocking\_chair](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/rocking_chair)\ **Post date:** [September 9, 2022, 1:52am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/breaking-the-queen-is-unwell-has-died-8-sep-2022/971212/274 "2022-09-09T01:52:24Z")
No, it hasn’t. It is possible we won’t know. For something this quick, something went wrong really quickly. She looked fairly good in the pictures with the new pm. I’m figuring on a fall, stroke, thrown blood clot, that sort of thing. They do keep the health of the royal family fairly tight lipped. ---
**Author:** ![penultima\_thule](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/penultima_thule/32/3833_2.png) [@penultima\_thule](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/penultima_thule)\ **Post date:** [September 9, 2022, 1:56am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/breaking-the-queen-is-unwell-has-died-8-sep-2022/971212/275 "2022-09-09T01:56:17Z")
I asked my mother, who is the only member of the extended family with any experience of a change in Monarch, what should the family do at this time. Mum’s pragmatic response (befitting her status as an Australian republican): “Say God save the King” ---
**Author:** ![blondebear](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/blondebear/32/1022_2.png) [@blondebear](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/blondebear)\ **Post date:** [September 9, 2022, 1:56am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/breaking-the-queen-is-unwell-has-died-8-sep-2022/971212/276 "2022-09-09T01:56:53Z")
I must admit I never gave Her Majesty much thought, in my lifetime she’s just always sort of “been there” Today, though, when I heard her 1940 Children’s Hour speech and then her 1953 Coronation Day Speech I thought to myself how lucky the British were to to have such a person as a leader all these many years. ---
**Author:** ![Smapti](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/smapti/32/17938_2.png) [@Smapti](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Smapti)\ **Post date:** [September 9, 2022, 1:59am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/breaking-the-queen-is-unwell-has-died-8-sep-2022/971212/277 "2022-09-09T01:59:53Z")
> [@blondebear](#): > > Today, though, when I heard her 1940 Children’s Hour speech and then her 1953 Coronation Day Speech I thought to myself how lucky the British were to to have such a person as a leader all these many years. As an American, I found the speech she gave at the beginning of the covid lockdowns in 2020 to be reassuring and inspiring to a much greater degree than anything that was coming from our government at the time. ---
**Author:** ![Baker](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/b/bb73d2/32.png) [@Baker](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Baker)\ **Post date:** [September 9, 2022, 2:13am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/breaking-the-queen-is-unwell-has-died-8-sep-2022/971212/278 "2022-09-09T02:13:14Z")
It has been said that William IV toughed it out until Victoria became eighteen, so her mother, whom he despised, would not have a chance to exercise power as regent. ---
**Author:** ![racer72](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/racer72/32/3075_2.png) [@racer72](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/racer72)\ **Post date:** [September 9, 2022, 2:22am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/breaking-the-queen-is-unwell-has-died-8-sep-2022/971212/279 "2022-09-09T02:22:17Z")
My last name is important in the history of Great Britain and as one whose ancestry is about 80% British, I am saddened. As requested by the president, I lowered my flag to half staff. Thank you for a life well lived Your Majesty. ---
**Author:** ![Northern\_Piper](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/northern_piper/32/5304_2.png) [@Northern\_Piper](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Northern_Piper)\ **Post date:** [September 9, 2022, 2:46am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/breaking-the-queen-is-unwell-has-died-8-sep-2022/971212/280 "2022-09-09T02:46:06Z")
I can’t put my flag at half-mast, because it’s one of those poles that stick out at an angle from the house, but tomorrow I’m off in quest of black ribbon to attach to it. [Previous page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/breaking-the-queen-is-unwell-has-died-8-sep-2022/971212.md?page=13) [Next page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/breaking-the-queen-is-unwell-has-died-8-sep-2022/971212.md?page=15)