# Breaking - The Queen is unwell (has died): 8 Sep 2022

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**Category:** Miscellaneous and Personal Stuff I Must Share\
**Tags:** breaking-news\
**Created:** [September 8, 2022, 11:49am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/breaking-the-queen-is-unwell-has-died-8-sep-2022/971212 "2022-09-08T11:49:17Z")\
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**Author:** ![Love\_Rhombus](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/love_rhombus/32/10694_2.png) [@Love\_Rhombus](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Love_Rhombus)\
**Post date:** [September 9, 2022, 11:08am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/breaking-the-queen-is-unwell-has-died-8-sep-2022/971212/301 "2022-09-09T11:08:57Z")

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A tough lady in a sh\*tty, thankless job. RIP. While I don’t agree with the glee I’ve seen online about her death, I can’t fully condemn it either.

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**Author:** ![AK84](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/a/85e7bf/32.png) [@AK84](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/AK84)\
**Post date:** [September 9, 2022, 11:11am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/breaking-the-queen-is-unwell-has-died-8-sep-2022/971212/302 "2022-09-09T11:11:17Z")

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Looking at the retrospectives, she is certainly the first highly prominent human whose entire life from birth to death was recorded by audio visual medium.  
Looking at her first public appearance as a newborn babe and her last, as an old lady of 96, 2 days before her death, the illustration of a human lifetime has never felt so stark.

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**Author:** ![Fiendish\_Astronaut](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/fiendish_astronaut/32/3295_2.png) [@Fiendish\_Astronaut](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Fiendish_Astronaut)\
**Post date:** [September 9, 2022, 11:11am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/breaking-the-queen-is-unwell-has-died-8-sep-2022/971212/303 "2022-09-09T11:11:17Z")

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King Charles to address the nation at 6pm local time. (I think that’s 1pm ET)

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**Author:** ![Jasmine](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/jasmine/32/2964_2.png) [@Jasmine](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Jasmine)\
**Post date:** [September 9, 2022, 11:18am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/breaking-the-queen-is-unwell-has-died-8-sep-2022/971212/304 "2022-09-09T11:18:58Z")

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That woman was eminently worthy of the title, “Queen”! She was one of a handful of women on this planet to whom I would curtsy out of respect. What a lady!

Replacing her as monarch is like replacing Michael Jordan at guard, and Charles is pathetic in comparison.

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**Author:** ![Fiendish\_Astronaut](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/fiendish_astronaut/32/3295_2.png) [@Fiendish\_Astronaut](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Fiendish_Astronaut)\
**Post date:** [September 9, 2022, 11:32am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/breaking-the-queen-is-unwell-has-died-8-sep-2022/971212/305 "2022-09-09T11:32:59Z")

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King Charles III is in the air: [Flightradar24: Live Flight Tracker - Real-Time Flight Tracker Map](https://www.flightradar24.com/KRH20R/2d65bac1)

This could be the most tracked flight of all time, over 200k already.

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**Author:** ![PatrickLondon](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/patricklondon/32/4422_2.png) [@PatrickLondon](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/PatrickLondon)\
**Post date:** [September 9, 2022, 1:00pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/breaking-the-queen-is-unwell-has-died-8-sep-2022/971212/306 "2022-09-09T13:00:40Z")

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> [@Smapti](#):
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> Do tell

Fill your boots. _De gustibus_ and all that, but I can’t see a lot of this not looking OTT these days

[![](https://img.youtube.com/vi/wKzlKwpm17U/maxresdefault.jpg "The Coronation Of Queen Elizabeth II (Colour) 02/06/1953") ](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wKzlKwpm17U)

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**Author:** ![PatrickLondon](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/patricklondon/32/4422_2.png) [@PatrickLondon](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/PatrickLondon)\
**Post date:** [September 9, 2022, 1:06pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/breaking-the-queen-is-unwell-has-died-8-sep-2022/971212/307 "2022-09-09T13:06:24Z")

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> [@AK84](#):
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> (Has anyone ever ascertained George VI time of death?)

Sometime in his sleep overnight. Found by his valet at 0730 or thereabouts. Official public announcement mid-morning.

> **[The Death of George VI](https://www.bbc.co.uk/archive/the-death-of-george-vi/z4gky9q)**
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> John Snagge reads the formal announcement from Sandringham that King George VI has died peacefully in his sleep.

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**Author:** ![Tibby](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/tibby/32/17030_2.png) [@Tibby](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Tibby)\
**Post date:** [September 9, 2022, 1:07pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/breaking-the-queen-is-unwell-has-died-8-sep-2022/971212/308 "2022-09-09T13:07:06Z")

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I’ve always enjoyed Queen Elizabeth’s gentle humor and I’m sure her subjects did, too. Connecting with a stuffy, humorless King or Queen would be difficult.

Despite Queen Victoria’s alleged (but never verified) utterance, _“we are not amused”_ when someone told a lewd joke at a state function, giving people the false impression she was devoid of humor, she actually (by a number of accounts) had a keen, sometimes naughty funny bone. If she did say the infamous line, I’d like to believe it was delivered in this manner after hearing the off-color joke: _“we are not amused!”_ [wink, wink]…_“now tell another one, or it’s off with your head!”_

If Queen Elizabeth had a vulgar sense of humor and was prone to pull pranks like farting in the palace elevator, then pointing to another nation’s head of state, well that would be vastly inappropriate…though funny as hell.

The Queen’s gentle humor will be missed by many.

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**Author:** ![Stanislaus](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/stanislaus/32/3391_2.png) [@Stanislaus](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Stanislaus)\
**Post date:** [September 9, 2022, 1:15pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/breaking-the-queen-is-unwell-has-died-8-sep-2022/971212/309 "2022-09-09T13:15:34Z")

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> [@Tibby](#):
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> I’ve always enjoyed Queen Elizabeth’s gentle humor and I’m sure her subjects did, too.

Honestly, speaking as a Brit, I have absolutely no idea about her sense of humour, gentle or otherwise. We didn’t talk much.

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**Author:** ![Tibby](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/tibby/32/17030_2.png) [@Tibby](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Tibby)\
**Post date:** [September 9, 2022, 1:18pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/breaking-the-queen-is-unwell-has-died-8-sep-2022/971212/310 "2022-09-09T13:18:10Z")

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Not besties like she and I, eh?

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**Author:** ![Stanislaus](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/stanislaus/32/3391_2.png) [@Stanislaus](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Stanislaus)\
**Post date:** [September 9, 2022, 1:20pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/breaking-the-queen-is-unwell-has-died-8-sep-2022/971212/311 "2022-09-09T13:20:52Z")

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Maybe it was something I said.

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**Author:** ![rocking\_chair](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/rocking_chair/32/2918_2.png) [@rocking\_chair](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/rocking_chair)\
**Post date:** [September 9, 2022, 1:41pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/breaking-the-queen-is-unwell-has-died-8-sep-2022/971212/312 "2022-09-09T13:41:36Z")

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she had covid in feb., with her loss of mobility, throw a clot does seem most likely, given how quickly things happened.

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**Author:** ![Acsenray](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/acsenray/32/4519_2.png) [@Acsenray](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Acsenray)\
**Post date:** [September 9, 2022, 1:47pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/breaking-the-queen-is-unwell-has-died-8-sep-2022/971212/313 "2022-09-09T13:47:55Z")

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> [@Spoons](#):
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> A “precedent,” as **Northern Piper** and I were using it is kind of like a form. I might have a precedent for, say, a motion that I want to make in court. There would be places to put the parties’ names and the details of the matter; and at the top, among other things, it would say, “In the Court of Queen’s Bench of the Province of Alberta.” That would have to be changed to “the Court of King’s Bench.”
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> Having precedents generally saves a lot of time, as neither my assistant nor I want to have to retype the same boilerplate over and over and over.

So, a template, then.

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**Author:** ![Acsenray](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/acsenray/32/4519_2.png) [@Acsenray](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Acsenray)\
**Post date:** [September 9, 2022, 1:49pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/breaking-the-queen-is-unwell-has-died-8-sep-2022/971212/314 "2022-09-09T13:49:44Z")

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> [@I\_Love\_Me\_Vol.I](#):
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> As far as ‘convenient graphics’ go, that one isn’t. What a convoluted mess!

It looks very clear to me. Only I would have put labels on the mugshots.

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**Author:** ![Novelty\_Bobble](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/n/a3d4f5/32.png) [@Novelty\_Bobble](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Novelty_Bobble)\
**Post date:** [September 9, 2022, 1:50pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/breaking-the-queen-is-unwell-has-died-8-sep-2022/971212/315 "2022-09-09T13:50:07Z")

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> [@Acsenray](#):
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> So, a template, then.

There’s a crucial difference, a template won’t cost you £300 a pop.

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**Author:** ![Acsenray](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/acsenray/32/4519_2.png) [@Acsenray](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Acsenray)\
**Post date:** [September 9, 2022, 1:52pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/breaking-the-queen-is-unwell-has-died-8-sep-2022/971212/316 "2022-09-09T13:52:19Z")

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> [@Love\_Rhombus](#):
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> A tough lady in a sh\*tty, thankless job.

Not entirely thankless, I think. And that’s not even to mention the fact that it made her immensely wealthy.

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**Author:** ![rocking\_chair](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/rocking_chair/32/2918_2.png) [@rocking\_chair](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/rocking_chair)\
**Post date:** [September 9, 2022, 1:54pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/breaking-the-queen-is-unwell-has-died-8-sep-2022/971212/317 "2022-09-09T13:54:37Z")

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i saw it live, when he said “i will miss her so”… ach, it got a bit dusty in my office.

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**Author:** ![Love\_Rhombus](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/love_rhombus/32/10694_2.png) [@Love\_Rhombus](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Love_Rhombus)\
**Post date:** [September 9, 2022, 1:59pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/breaking-the-queen-is-unwell-has-died-8-sep-2022/971212/318 "2022-09-09T13:59:06Z")

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> [@Acsenray](#):
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> Not entirely thankless, I think. And that’s not even to mention the fact that it made her immensely wealthy.

Oh, no doubt. I’ve read records of Diana’s time as princess and it seemed like a gilded cage, but I suppose if you’re brought up in it you might not notice. Not a healthy environment for anyone and I’m glad Harry and Meghan got out while they could.

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**Author:** ![Dewey\_Finn](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/dewey_finn/32/4222_2.png) [@Dewey\_Finn](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Dewey_Finn)\
**Post date:** [September 9, 2022, 2:00pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/breaking-the-queen-is-unwell-has-died-8-sep-2022/971212/319 "2022-09-09T14:00:33Z")

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Though Harry and Meghan aren’t exactly living a middle-class lifestyle.

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**Author:** ![dtilque](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/d6d6ee/32.png) [@dtilque](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/dtilque)\
**Post date:** [September 9, 2022, 2:17pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/breaking-the-queen-is-unwell-has-died-8-sep-2022/971212/320 "2022-09-09T14:17:03Z")

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> [@Slow\_Moving\_Vehicle](#):
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> > [@dtilque](#):
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> > > [@Slow\_Moving\_Vehicle](#):
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> > > NPR is reporting that Charles will take Charles III as his regnal name. Given the reputation of the Nos. I and II, I’m surprised.
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> > As long as he doesn’t lose his head about it, he should be fine
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> Well, he’s already famous for his mistress…

Only one? He’s got a long way to go to catch up to Chuck 2.0.

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