# Breaking - The Queen is unwell (has died): 8 Sep 2022

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**Category:** Miscellaneous and Personal Stuff I Must Share\
**Tags:** breaking-news\
**Created:** [September 8, 2022, 11:49am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/breaking-the-queen-is-unwell-has-died-8-sep-2022/971212 "2022-09-08T11:49:17Z")\
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**Author:** ![leahcim](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/l/b4bc9f/32.png) [@leahcim](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/leahcim)\
**Post date:** [September 11, 2022, 4:58pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/breaking-the-queen-is-unwell-has-died-8-sep-2022/971212/461 "2022-09-11T16:58:45Z")

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> [@kenobi\_65](#):
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> I’ve read several articles in the past few days, indicating that Elizabeth had expressly felt that she didn’t want her dogs to outlive her – which is why she had stopped breeding corgis some years back, and wasn’t getting new dogs, other than the ones which had been gifted to her.

This is where I saw that mentioned: [https://twitter.com/ashleyfeinberg/status/1567867203667611648](https://twitter.com/ashleyfeinberg/status/1567867203667611648)

But note that while the article says, “she does not wish any to survive her in the event of her death”, the actual quote from QE2 is “didn’t want to leave any _ **young** _ dogs behind” suggesting she was more concerned with a small puppy needing to be rehomed than a mature dog.

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**Author:** ![Elmer\_J.Fudd](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/elmer_j.fudd/32/1211_2.png) [@Elmer\_J.Fudd](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Elmer_J.Fudd)\
**Post date:** [September 11, 2022, 5:07pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/breaking-the-queen-is-unwell-has-died-8-sep-2022/971212/462 "2022-09-11T17:07:41Z")

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We’ll, there _is_ precedent for royalty being buried along with their pets…and servants. I wonder how well the queen’s hat duster is sleeping.

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**Author:** ![EinsteinsHund](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/einsteinshund/32/8400_2.png) [@EinsteinsHund](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/EinsteinsHund)\
**Post date:** [September 11, 2022, 5:12pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/breaking-the-queen-is-unwell-has-died-8-sep-2022/971212/463 "2022-09-11T17:12:31Z")

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> [@Elmer\_J.Fudd](#):
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> I wonder how well the queen’s hat duster is sleeping.

Doesn’t matter much, he’s out of business anyway. Who wears hats anymore after QE II?

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**Author:** ![rocking\_chair](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/rocking_chair/32/2918_2.png) [@rocking\_chair](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/rocking_chair)\
**Post date:** [September 11, 2022, 5:17pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/breaking-the-queen-is-unwell-has-died-8-sep-2022/971212/464 "2022-09-11T17:17:19Z")

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William may want to start wearing hats. Slop! Slip! Slap!

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**Author:** ![ThelmaLou](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/thelmalou/32/390_2.png) [@ThelmaLou](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/ThelmaLou)\
**Post date:** [September 11, 2022, 5:18pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/breaking-the-queen-is-unwell-has-died-8-sep-2022/971212/465 "2022-09-11T17:18:04Z")

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> [@carrps](#):
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> Maybe that’s why I’m finding it difficult to gin up any sorrow for the queen…

I didn’t know **any** of my grandparents. And I’m not a parent or grandparent. Doesn’t mean I can’t feel sad about someone’s Granny departing this life.

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**Author:** ![Dewey\_Finn](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/dewey_finn/32/4222_2.png) [@Dewey\_Finn](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Dewey_Finn)\
**Post date:** [September 11, 2022, 5:23pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/breaking-the-queen-is-unwell-has-died-8-sep-2022/971212/466 "2022-09-11T17:23:43Z")

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I didn’t know my grandparents either, but was happy for and somewhat envious of my brother’s kids, who grew up knowing and being loved and adored by both sets of grandparents (along with a great-grandmother, an aunt on their mother’s side and me, their uncle on their father’s side).

The more people who love and spend time with any kid, the better.

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**Author:** ![EinsteinsHund](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/einsteinshund/32/8400_2.png) [@EinsteinsHund](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/EinsteinsHund)\
**Post date:** [September 11, 2022, 5:32pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/breaking-the-queen-is-unwell-has-died-8-sep-2022/971212/467 "2022-09-11T17:32:29Z")

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> [@rocking\_chair](#):
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> William may want to start wearing hats. Slop! Slip! Slap!

He still has hair on the sides. Maybe he can grow it like Krusty the Clown to give his hats a solid grip.

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**Author:** ![Acsenray](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/acsenray/32/4519_2.png) [@Acsenray](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Acsenray)\
**Post date:** [September 11, 2022, 5:37pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/breaking-the-queen-is-unwell-has-died-8-sep-2022/971212/468 "2022-09-11T17:37:35Z")

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I don’t see this as sad at all. Everyone dies. She died in possibly a better way than 99 percent of us can ever imagine living and leaving.

It was sad when someone’s mother was killed by a drunken driver at a young age. This … this isn’t sad. It’s just life, and it’s possibly even the opposite of sad, considering how most of us are going to end up going.

I just spent four weeks with my parents, who are 10-15 years younger than Elizabeth of Windsor. They are not badly off, but their late years aren’t going to be as comfortable as hers. And me, I’m facing a pretty grim downhill to my life, and not much to show for it.

So all things considered, this isn’t sad at all.

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**Author:** ![puzzlegal](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/puzzlegal/32/3827_2.png) [@puzzlegal](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/puzzlegal)\
**Post date:** [September 11, 2022, 5:54pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/breaking-the-queen-is-unwell-has-died-8-sep-2022/971212/469 "2022-09-11T17:54:40Z")

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She also seems to have passed from walking around and smiling to dead in two days. A lot of people suffer more than she did when they die.

I feel a little sad for me. I liked having the queen around. But it was bound to happen, and her actual passing seems about as good as it could have been.

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**Author:** ![RickJay](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/r/bb73d2/32.png) [@RickJay](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/RickJay)\
**Post date:** [September 11, 2022, 6:08pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/breaking-the-queen-is-unwell-has-died-8-sep-2022/971212/470 "2022-09-11T18:08:28Z")

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> [@Acsenray](#):
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> I don’t see this as sad at all. Everyone dies. She died in possibly a better way than 99 percent of us can ever imagine living and leaving.

Well, it’s sad for her family. They will miss their mother/grandma/great-grandma, even if she was really old. It’s not sad in a general way, though, no.

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**Author:** ![alphaboi867](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/alphaboi867/32/3898_2.png) [@alphaboi867](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/alphaboi867)\
**Post date:** [September 11, 2022, 7:17pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/breaking-the-queen-is-unwell-has-died-8-sep-2022/971212/471 "2022-09-11T19:17:22Z")

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> [@Elmer\_J.Fudd](#):
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> We’ll, there _is_ precedent for royalty being buried along with their pets…and servants. I wonder how well the queen’s hat duster is sleeping.

If they have to sacrifice someone to serve her in the afterlife Prince Andrew is free.

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**Author:** ![puzzlegal](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/puzzlegal/32/3827_2.png) [@puzzlegal](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/puzzlegal)\
**Post date:** [September 11, 2022, 8:01pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/breaking-the-queen-is-unwell-has-died-8-sep-2022/971212/472 "2022-09-11T20:01:27Z")

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Gotta say, it hadn’t occurred to me to worry about the dogs. They could go to someone in the family, or heck, to whichever servant was actually talking care of them every day. I’m sure they will also be sad she’s gone, but they’ll be cared for.

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**Author:** ![Broomstick](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/broomstick/32/246_2.png) [@Broomstick](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Broomstick)\
**Post date:** [September 11, 2022, 11:10pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/breaking-the-queen-is-unwell-has-died-8-sep-2022/971212/473 "2022-09-11T23:10:02Z")

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> [@puzzlegal](#):
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> They could go to someone in the family, or heck, to whichever servant was actually talking care of them every day.

Apparently Sarah Ferguson really did walk both her own and the Queen’s dogs on a regular basis, so it wasn’t always servants. And the dogs will be going to Sarah and Andrew, so they’ll be with people they already know and well cared for.

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**Author:** ![BigT](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/bigt/32/12044_2.png) [@BigT](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/BigT)\
**Post date:** [September 11, 2022, 11:15pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/breaking-the-queen-is-unwell-has-died-8-sep-2022/971212/474 "2022-09-11T23:15:07Z")

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I wasn’t super concerned about the corgis, not even thinking about them until someone else brought them up. Still, finding out they went back to the people who gifted them to the Queen and who had been taking care of them before was still a nice thing to hear.

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**Author:** ![penultima\_thule](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/penultima_thule/32/3833_2.png) [@penultima\_thule](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/penultima_thule)\
**Post date:** [September 12, 2022, 12:44am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/breaking-the-queen-is-unwell-has-died-8-sep-2022/971212/475 "2022-09-12T00:44:30Z")

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Has been announced that there will be a [national holiday in Australia on Sep 22nd](https://www.abc.net.au/news/2022-09-11/national-day-of-mourning-queen-death-to-be-public-holiday/101427050)

QEII’s loyal Australian subjects will be totally stoked that possibly her Majesty’s last impact in this Dominion is to give us a long weekend.

As a curiosity, the cashed up bogans of Western Australia celebrate the Queens Birthday holiday on Sep 26th. Most of the civilised portion (such as it exists) of Australia have already had our 2022 Queens Birthday holiday back in June.

As nothing inspires the average Aussie so much as a long weekend, I suspect the sandgropers will not give up their birthday holiday even out of respect that the celebrant has passed on and thereby will become the first province in the Commonwealth to celebrate the Kings Birthday.

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**Author:** ![aurora\_maire](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/aurora_maire/32/328_2.png) [@aurora\_maire](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/aurora_maire)\
**Post date:** [September 12, 2022, 2:49am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/breaking-the-queen-is-unwell-has-died-8-sep-2022/971212/476 "2022-09-12T02:49:14Z")

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I’ve been wondering about Prince George. He is only 9 years old. I wonder if he understands who he is and the role he will have to play. I don’t have kids so I don’t know if he is old enough to understand that one day he will be going through all of this pageantry after the death of his father. That’s pretty heavy for a kid.

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**Post date:** [September 12, 2022, 5:37am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/breaking-the-queen-is-unwell-has-died-8-sep-2022/971212/477 "2022-09-12T05:37:30Z")

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I blame myself for the queen’s death. Back in 1996, I had to fly from Bangkok to Japan. But the road to the airport was shut down for the queen and Prince Philip’s motorcade as they drove upcountry during their Thailand visit that year. I thought I would miss my flight and uttered a death curse on them both. As it turned out, I made my flight, barely. But I did not revoke the curse. And 26 years later, they’re both dead. Coincidence? Not bloody likely!

RIP, Queen Elizabeth. You were one classy lady.

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**Author:** ![Teuton](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/teuton/32/3864_2.png) [@Teuton](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Teuton)\
**Post date:** [September 12, 2022, 6:34am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/breaking-the-queen-is-unwell-has-died-8-sep-2022/971212/478 "2022-09-12T06:34:09Z")

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> [@penultima\_thule](#):
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> As nothing inspires the average Aussie so much as a long weekend, I suspect the sandgropers will not give up their birthday holiday even out of respect that the celebrant has passed on and thereby will become the first province in the Commonwealth to celebrate the Kings Birthday.

Do you think you’ll get one on King Charlie’s coronation as well? We’re likely to in the UK, I think

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**Author:** ![penultima\_thule](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/penultima_thule/32/3833_2.png) [@penultima\_thule](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/penultima_thule)\
**Post date:** [September 12, 2022, 6:52am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/breaking-the-queen-is-unwell-has-died-8-sep-2022/971212/479 "2022-09-12T06:52:39Z")

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Sure as eggs … which will put the Australian Republican Movement into a total blue funk. Wedged. Snookered. Buggered. Rogered. Royally!  
Becoming independent with our best waving the flag as our Head of State is surely an overdue national and aspirational goal… but not if it costs us a couple of long weekends. 🙃 🙃 🙃🤣

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**Author:** ![Dewey\_Finn](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/dewey_finn/32/4222_2.png) [@Dewey\_Finn](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Dewey_Finn)\
**Post date:** [September 12, 2022, 1:13pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/breaking-the-queen-is-unwell-has-died-8-sep-2022/971212/480 "2022-09-12T13:13:19Z")

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Over the weekend, President Biden and his wife formally were invited to the funeral, but aren’t bringing any sort of delegation. Someone on CNN said that if they cram as many seats as possible, the funeral venue will only hold 2400 people, so some invitees may not be able to bring their spouses.

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