# Breaking - The Queen is unwell (has died): 8 Sep 2022

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**Category:** Miscellaneous and Personal Stuff I Must Share\
**Tags:** breaking-news\
**Created:** [September 8, 2022, 11:49am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/breaking-the-queen-is-unwell-has-died-8-sep-2022/971212 "2022-09-08T11:49:17Z")\
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**Author:** ![JRDelirious](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/jrdelirious/32/9531_2.png) [@JRDelirious](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/JRDelirious)\
**Post date:** [September 16, 2022, 1:38pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/breaking-the-queen-is-unwell-has-died-8-sep-2022/971212/641 "2022-09-16T13:38:21Z")

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Or the new iPhone

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**Author:** ![Dewey\_Finn](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/dewey_finn/32/4222_2.png) [@Dewey\_Finn](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Dewey_Finn)\
**Post date:** [September 16, 2022, 1:45pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/breaking-the-queen-is-unwell-has-died-8-sep-2022/971212/642 "2022-09-16T13:45:17Z")

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BTW, did the Gentlemen at Arms replace the Royal Company of Archers? I don’t see the archers there any longer.

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**Author:** ![rocking\_chair](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/rocking_chair/32/2918_2.png) [@rocking\_chair](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/rocking_chair)\
**Post date:** [September 16, 2022, 1:55pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/breaking-the-queen-is-unwell-has-died-8-sep-2022/971212/643 "2022-09-16T13:55:20Z")

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the queen’s children are tonight, her grandchildren tomorrow. harry will wear a military uniform.

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**Author:** ![FloatyGimpy](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/floatygimpy/32/7750_2.png) [@FloatyGimpy](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/FloatyGimpy)\
**Post date:** [September 16, 2022, 1:55pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/breaking-the-queen-is-unwell-has-died-8-sep-2022/971212/644 "2022-09-16T13:55:57Z")

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1 pm EST I believe.

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**Author:** ![Dewey\_Finn](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/dewey_finn/32/4222_2.png) [@Dewey\_Finn](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Dewey_Finn)\
**Post date:** [September 16, 2022, 1:56pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/breaking-the-queen-is-unwell-has-died-8-sep-2022/971212/645 "2022-09-16T13:56:03Z")

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Upthread someone said the Vigil of the Princes is at 1930 local time.

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**Author:** ![Novelty\_Bobble](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/n/a3d4f5/32.png) [@Novelty\_Bobble](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Novelty_Bobble)\
**Post date:** [September 16, 2022, 2:04pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/breaking-the-queen-is-unwell-has-died-8-sep-2022/971212/646 "2022-09-16T14:04:01Z")

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> [@StarvingButStrong](#):
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> Fourteen hours of shuffling along? I keep having the irreverent thought that there isn’t even a good ride at the end of it.

My absolute max wait time for a rollercoaster is about 45 mins. And that had better be a _really_, _really_ good one.

In all seriousness, we said to the kids that if they really wanted to go then we’d take them up on the train and queue with them but it certainly wouldn’t be my idea of fun (though it certainly is an historic event). They politely declined though I was surprised that my daughter particularly seemed very moved by the whole thing. I guess it is the enormity and gravity of the coverage and the formality of the ceremonies as much as anything.

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**Author:** ![Fiendish\_Astronaut](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/fiendish_astronaut/32/3295_2.png) [@Fiendish\_Astronaut](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Fiendish_Astronaut)\
**Post date:** [September 16, 2022, 2:46pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/breaking-the-queen-is-unwell-has-died-8-sep-2022/971212/647 "2022-09-16T14:46:22Z")

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David Beckham was seen paying his respect this morning and then it emerged that yes, he queued through the night, hence looking a bit dishevelled:

[![](https://e3.365dm.com/22/09/2048x1152/skynews-david-beckham-queen-death_5901311.jpg?20220916152710) ](https://e3.365dm.com/22/09/2048x1152/skynews-david-beckham-queen-death_5901311.jpg?20220916152710)

One of the people in The Queue tweeted:

> The Queue is now full of people trying to photograph David Beckham and forgetting to actually move onwards.  
> It’s madness! I feel a bit sorry for him, but he’s taking it very well.  
> It’s made me almost forget that we’ve been in The Queue almost TWELVE HOURS though."

\*Edited to use upper case in the word queue as everyone else seems to be doing it and that’s how language works.

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**Author:** ![SanVito](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/sanvito/32/2805_2.png) [@SanVito](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/SanVito)\
**Post date:** [September 16, 2022, 2:51pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/breaking-the-queen-is-unwell-has-died-8-sep-2022/971212/648 "2022-09-16T14:51:02Z")

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> [@FloatyGimpy](#):
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> Who is this line of crotchety looking old men in red coats who came out a side door? Most of them are just walking by looking annoyed, very few of them quickly nodding their head towards the coffin.

Missed that. Did they look like this lot?

[![](https://i2-prod.bristolpost.co.uk/incoming/article7035416.ece/ALTERNATES/s1200b/0_D-Day-75th-anniversary.jpg) ](https://i2-prod.bristolpost.co.uk/incoming/article7035416.ece/ALTERNATES/s1200b/0_D-Day-75th-anniversary.jpg)

If so, they’re Chelsea Pensioners - retired military personnel who served a minimum 30 years, and now get to live in an amazing retirement home set up by Charles II. They get free front row seats at every good gig going - Wimbledon Final, Last Night of the Proms, Madonna gigs, you name it.

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**Author:** ![SanVito](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/sanvito/32/2805_2.png) [@SanVito](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/SanVito)\
**Post date:** [September 16, 2022, 2:52pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/breaking-the-queen-is-unwell-has-died-8-sep-2022/971212/649 "2022-09-16T14:52:30Z")

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> [@Fiendish\_Astronaut](#):
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> \*Edited to use upper case in the word queue as everyone else seems to be doing it and that’s how language works

That’s because it’s no longer a queue, it’s _The_ Queue, and proper nouns deserve respect.

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**Author:** ![Pleonast](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/pleonast/32/1183_2.png) [@Pleonast](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Pleonast)\
**Post date:** [September 16, 2022, 3:07pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/breaking-the-queen-is-unwell-has-died-8-sep-2022/971212/650 "2022-09-16T15:07:22Z")

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> [@SanVito](#):
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> If so, they’re Chelsea Pensioners - retired military personnel who served a minimum 30 years, and now get to live in an amazing retirement home set up by Charles II.

Not a typo, it really was Charles II.

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**Author:** ![Fiendish\_Astronaut](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/fiendish_astronaut/32/3295_2.png) [@Fiendish\_Astronaut](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Fiendish_Astronaut)\
**Post date:** [September 16, 2022, 3:25pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/breaking-the-queen-is-unwell-has-died-8-sep-2022/971212/651 "2022-09-16T15:25:51Z")

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> [@FloatyGimpy](#):
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> Most of them are just walking by looking annoyed

That definitely sounds like the Chelsea Pensioners then.

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**Author:** ![RickJay](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/r/bb73d2/32.png) [@RickJay](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/RickJay)\
**Post date:** [September 16, 2022, 3:25pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/breaking-the-queen-is-unwell-has-died-8-sep-2022/971212/652 "2022-09-16T15:25:54Z")

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> [@Gatopescado](#):
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> Bloody Hell! The Queen is taking her final journey to London… in the back of a _GERMAN CAR!_

As the winner of the match, she’s entitled to their vehicles.

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**Author:** ![mbh](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/a6a055/32.png) [@mbh](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/mbh)\
**Post date:** [September 16, 2022, 4:01pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/breaking-the-queen-is-unwell-has-died-8-sep-2022/971212/653 "2022-09-16T16:01:26Z")

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> [@Dewey\_Finn](#):
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> BTW, did the Gentlemen at Arms replace the Royal Company of Archers? I don’t see the archers there any longer.

The Archers are the royal bodyguard in Scotland. The stood vigil in Edinburgh. The Yeomen and Gentlemen at Arms are the royal bodyguard in England. They stand vigil in London.

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**Author:** ![Dewey\_Finn](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/dewey_finn/32/4222_2.png) [@Dewey\_Finn](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Dewey_Finn)\
**Post date:** [September 16, 2022, 4:11pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/breaking-the-queen-is-unwell-has-died-8-sep-2022/971212/654 "2022-09-16T16:11:06Z")

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Wasn’t the guard who fainted a couple of days ago from the Archers?

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**Author:** ![mbh](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/a6a055/32.png) [@mbh](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/mbh)\
**Post date:** [September 16, 2022, 4:19pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/breaking-the-queen-is-unwell-has-died-8-sep-2022/971212/655 "2022-09-16T16:19:51Z")

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I stand corrected. It happened on the 15th. It happened right as one set of guards (English) was relieving another set of guards (Scottish). The poor guy almost made it to the end of his shift, but not quite.

> **[Watch the moment a royal guard collapsed while keeping vigil over Queen...](https://news.yahoo.com/watch-moment-royal-guard-collapsed-154016827.html)**
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> A royal guard keeping watch over Queen Elizabeth II's coffin fainted in front of it on September 15.

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**Author:** ![Dewey\_Finn](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/dewey_finn/32/4222_2.png) [@Dewey\_Finn](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Dewey_Finn)\
**Post date:** [September 16, 2022, 4:21pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/breaking-the-queen-is-unwell-has-died-8-sep-2022/971212/656 "2022-09-16T16:21:34Z")

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So were the Archers sent home in shame?

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**Author:** ![mbh](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/a6a055/32.png) [@mbh](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/mbh)\
**Post date:** [September 16, 2022, 4:30pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/breaking-the-queen-is-unwell-has-died-8-sep-2022/971212/657 "2022-09-16T16:30:01Z")

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More likely there are only a few of them in London to begin with.

It occurs to me that, every time I have looked, the soldiers standing vigil were either Archers (green uniforms with berets), Yeomen (Tudor-era uniforms), Gentlemen (red tailcoats and plumed helmets), or Guardsmen (red tunics and bearskin hats). Have any other regiments taken a turn?

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**Author:** ![Elendil\_s\_Heir](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/e/7cd45c/32.png) [@Elendil\_s\_Heir](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Elendil_s_Heir)\
**Post date:** [September 16, 2022, 4:33pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/breaking-the-queen-is-unwell-has-died-8-sep-2022/971212/658 "2022-09-16T16:33:14Z")

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> [@RickJay](#):
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> > [@Gatopescado](#):
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> > Bloody Hell! The Queen is taking her final journey to London… in the back of a _GERMAN CAR!_
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> As the winner of the match, she’s entitled to their vehicles.

Too bloody right.

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**Author:** ![Lord\_Feldon](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/lord_feldon/32/341_2.png) [@Lord\_Feldon](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Lord_Feldon)\
**Post date:** [September 16, 2022, 4:57pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/breaking-the-queen-is-unwell-has-died-8-sep-2022/971212/659 "2022-09-16T16:57:48Z")

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The Household Cavalry has occasionally been there instead of the Guards.

And the Yeomen Warders of the Tower of London are occasionally mixed in with the Yeomen of the Guard (the only visual difference is that the Warders don’t have the belt running diagonally from their left shoulders).

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**Author:** ![ThelmaLou](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/thelmalou/32/390_2.png) [@ThelmaLou](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/ThelmaLou)\
**Post date:** [September 16, 2022, 5:07pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/breaking-the-queen-is-unwell-has-died-8-sep-2022/971212/660 "2022-09-16T17:07:41Z")

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The Queue is open again, but estimated wait time is now over 24 hours. 😲

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