# Breaking - The Queen is unwell (has died): 8 Sep 2022

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**Created:** [September 8, 2022, 11:49am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/breaking-the-queen-is-unwell-has-died-8-sep-2022/971212 "2022-09-08T11:49:17Z")\
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**Post date:** [September 8, 2022, 5:43pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/breaking-the-queen-is-unwell-has-died-8-sep-2022/971212/81 "2022-09-08T17:43:08Z")

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I think he gets to announce it within the day or the next day.

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**Post date:** [September 8, 2022, 5:43pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/breaking-the-queen-is-unwell-has-died-8-sep-2022/971212/82 "2022-09-08T17:43:10Z")

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> [@alphaboi867](#):
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> Is it King Charles III or King George VII?

I don’t believe that it’s been publicly announced yet what name he will use as king; BBC Radio is currently only referring to him as “the king.”

They have also said that “the king and the queen consort” will be remaining at Balmoral overnight, and then returning to London tomorrow. It may be that his royal name will be announced then.

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**Author:** ![Spoons](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/spoons/32/3141_2.png) [@Spoons](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Spoons)\
**Post date:** [September 8, 2022, 5:43pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/breaking-the-queen-is-unwell-has-died-8-sep-2022/971212/83 "2022-09-08T17:43:48Z")

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> [@alphaboi867](#):
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> Is it King Charles III or King George VII?

Yet to be determined, it seems. CNN’s correspondent is just referring to “the King,” while avoiding any name.

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**Author:** ![Teuton](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/teuton/32/3864_2.png) [@Teuton](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Teuton)\
**Post date:** [September 8, 2022, 5:44pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/breaking-the-queen-is-unwell-has-died-8-sep-2022/971212/84 "2022-09-08T17:44:03Z")

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I think he’ll go the George route myself, although I’m less sure now there is a Prince George

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> [@alphaboi867](#):
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> Is it King Charles III or King George VII?

He hasn’t stated his regnal name yet. I’m sure there will be an official announcement at some point. Meanwhile, he may be preoccupied by his mother’s death.

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**Author:** ![Johanna](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/johanna/32/8318_2.png) [@Johanna](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Johanna)\
**Post date:** [September 8, 2022, 5:45pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/breaking-the-queen-is-unwell-has-died-8-sep-2022/971212/86 "2022-09-08T17:45:08Z")

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We all knew this day was coming. Hers was a one-of-a kind reign. There’ll never be anybody like her ever again. Effectively the last of the monarchs.

It isn’t that I care about her personally; it’s the awareness of entering a new phase of history departing from the familiar one I’ve always known, which feels scary.

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**Author:** ![Fiendish\_Astronaut](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/fiendish_astronaut/32/3295_2.png) [@Fiendish\_Astronaut](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Fiendish_Astronaut)\
**Post date:** [September 8, 2022, 5:46pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/breaking-the-queen-is-unwell-has-died-8-sep-2022/971212/87 "2022-09-08T17:46:03Z")

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Terry Pratchett:

> The only thing known to go faster than ordinary light is monarchy, according to the philosopher Ly Tin Wheedle. He reasoned like this: you can’t have more than one king, and tradition demands that there is no gap between kings, so when a king dies the succession must therefore pass to the heir _instantaneously_. Presumably, he said, there must be some elementary particles – kingons, or possibly queons – that do this job, but of course succession sometimes fails if, in mid-flight, they strike an anti-particle, or republicon. His ambitious plans to use his discovery to send messages, involving the careful torturing of a small king in order to modulate the signal, were never fully expanded because, at that point, the bar closed.

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**Author:** ![Joey\_P](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/j/919ad9/32.png) [@Joey\_P](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Joey_P)\
**Post date:** [September 8, 2022, 5:46pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/breaking-the-queen-is-unwell-has-died-8-sep-2022/971212/88 "2022-09-08T17:46:21Z")

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Youtube has a live feed from Sky News if the other sites are still not working.

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**Author:** ![Joey\_P](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/j/919ad9/32.png) [@Joey\_P](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Joey_P)\
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[![](https://img.youtube.com/vi/_KAwk4cGWA4/maxresdefault.jpg "Her Majesty The Queen has died") ](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_KAwk4cGWA4)

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**Author:** ![Teuton](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/teuton/32/3864_2.png) [@Teuton](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Teuton)\
**Post date:** [September 8, 2022, 5:49pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/breaking-the-queen-is-unwell-has-died-8-sep-2022/971212/90 "2022-09-08T17:49:22Z")

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> [@Johanna](#):
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> We all knew this day was coming. Hers was a one-of-a kind reign. There’ll never be anybody like her ever again. Effectively the last of the monarchs.

I think this is right, it’s easy to see the UK monarchy going forward fading out of the limelight like the European royals.

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**Author:** ![Walken\_After\_Midnight](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/w/b487fb/32.png) [@Walken\_After\_Midnight](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Walken_After_Midnight)\
**Post date:** [September 8, 2022, 5:51pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/breaking-the-queen-is-unwell-has-died-8-sep-2022/971212/91 "2022-09-08T17:51:09Z")

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That was sudden. This was just two days ago, meeting new PM:

[![](https://pbs.twimg.com/media/Fb-FGypWAAEPPxO?format=jpg&name=small) ](https://pbs.twimg.com/media/Fb-FGypWAAEPPxO?format=jpg&name=small)

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**Post date:** [September 8, 2022, 5:53pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/breaking-the-queen-is-unwell-has-died-8-sep-2022/971212/92 "2022-09-08T17:53:44Z")

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> [@Walken\_After\_Midnight](#):
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> That was sudden. This was just two days ago, meeting new PM:
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> [https://pbs.twimg.com/media/Fb-FGypWAAEPPxO?format=jpg&name=small](https://pbs.twimg.com/media/Fb-FGypWAAEPPxO?format=jpg&name=small)

Surely interesting times for Britain…

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**Post date:** [September 8, 2022, 5:55pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/breaking-the-queen-is-unwell-has-died-8-sep-2022/971212/93 "2022-09-08T17:55:12Z")

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Whatever you may think about the value or absurdity of her position, the Queen fulfilled her duty with grace, dignity, and strength. I’m sorry for her family, and extend my condolences to the, our British Dopers, and the entire United Kingdom.

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**Post date:** [September 8, 2022, 5:55pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/breaking-the-queen-is-unwell-has-died-8-sep-2022/971212/94 "2022-09-08T17:55:46Z")

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When you’re 96, I imagine it can happen suddenly.

Brits are probably going to have to adjust to the new national anthem. There’s very few people alive who can remember a time when it had male pronouns.

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**Post date:** [September 8, 2022, 5:56pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/breaking-the-queen-is-unwell-has-died-8-sep-2022/971212/95 "2022-09-08T17:56:53Z")

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> [@wolfpup](#):
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> Besides the fact that Queen Elizabeth is the most amazingly gracious lady – the very embodiment of royalty – she has been Queen since 1953.

She was crowned in 1953, but was Queen in Feb 1952, in the same way Charles is King now but is unlikely to be crowned soon.

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**Post date:** [September 8, 2022, 5:57pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/breaking-the-queen-is-unwell-has-died-8-sep-2022/971212/96 "2022-09-08T17:57:56Z")

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The end of an era. Britain’s longest-reigning monarch is dead.  
RIP Elizabeth. You were an inspiration to millions.

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**Post date:** [September 8, 2022, 5:58pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/breaking-the-queen-is-unwell-has-died-8-sep-2022/971212/97 "2022-09-08T17:58:39Z")

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> [@Teuton](#):
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> > [@Johanna](#):
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> > We all knew this day was coming. Hers was a one-of-a kind reign. There’ll never be anybody like her ever again. Effectively the last of the monarchs.
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> I think this is right, it’s easy to see the UK monarchy going forward fading out of the limelight like the European royals

Maybe, maybe not. Charles is a bit of a joke, but William and Catherine are well-liked. Or so it seems from this side of the lake.

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**Author:** ![Son\_of\_a\_Rich](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/son_of_a_rich/32/5439_2.png) [@Son\_of\_a\_Rich](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Son_of_a_Rich)\
**Post date:** [September 8, 2022, 5:59pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/breaking-the-queen-is-unwell-has-died-8-sep-2022/971212/98 "2022-09-08T17:59:18Z")

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How long until his mug is on their money?

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**Post date:** [September 8, 2022, 6:00pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/breaking-the-queen-is-unwell-has-died-8-sep-2022/971212/99 "2022-09-08T18:00:42Z")

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Her face isn’t just on the UK money and postage stamps, but all over the world!

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**Post date:** [September 8, 2022, 6:01pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/breaking-the-queen-is-unwell-has-died-8-sep-2022/971212/100 "2022-09-08T18:01:55Z")

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Speaking of names; doesn’t this mean a new dynasty? Charles is an agnate of the House of Mountbatten. Just like Victoria was the last Hanoverian Elizabeth II was the last Windsor.

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