# Breaking - The Queen is unwell (has died): 8 Sep 2022 **URL:** \ **Category:** Miscellaneous and Personal Stuff I Must Share\ **Tags:** breaking-news\ **Created:** [September 8, 2022, 11:49am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/breaking-the-queen-is-unwell-has-died-8-sep-2022/971212 "2022-09-08T11:49:17Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 20\ **Page:** 50
**Author:** ![JRDelirious](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/jrdelirious/32/9531_2.png) [@JRDelirious](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/JRDelirious)\ **Post date:** [October 3, 2022, 3:18pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/breaking-the-queen-is-unwell-has-died-8-sep-2022/971212/981 "2022-10-03T15:18:58Z")
> [@rocking\_chair](#): > > in the u s, natural causes would be used rather than old age Can confirm I’ve seen that in at least one case of my own family. ---
**Author:** ![Mk\_VII](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/5f9b8f/32.png) [@Mk\_VII](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Mk_VII)\ **Post date:** [October 7, 2022, 8:00pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/breaking-the-queen-is-unwell-has-died-8-sep-2022/971212/982 "2022-10-07T20:00:22Z")
Prince Philip’s death certificate also said ‘old age’. ---
**Author:** ![Tarataratara](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/t/f4b2a3/32.png) [@Tarataratara](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Tarataratara)\ **Post date:** [October 17, 2022, 11:35pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/breaking-the-queen-is-unwell-has-died-8-sep-2022/971212/983 "2022-10-17T23:35:51Z")
Over 1,000 Paddington and teddy bears will be donated to a childrens’ charity. That’s nice to see. [https://www.royal.uk/over-1000-paddington-and-teddy-bears-be-donated-barnardos](https://www.royal.uk/over-1000-paddington-and-teddy-bears-be-donated-barnardos) ---
**Author:** ![Elendil\_s\_Heir](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/e/7cd45c/32.png) [@Elendil\_s\_Heir](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Elendil_s_Heir)\ **Post date:** [October 18, 2022, 6:16pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/breaking-the-queen-is-unwell-has-died-8-sep-2022/971212/984 "2022-10-18T18:16:30Z")
Yes, indeed. ---
**Author:** ![Acsenray](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/acsenray/32/4519_2.png) [@Acsenray](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Acsenray)\ **Post date:** [November 6, 2022, 10:22pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/breaking-the-queen-is-unwell-has-died-8-sep-2022/971212/985 "2022-11-06T22:22:04Z")
> [@SanVito](#): > > _Really?_ Are we _still_ doing this to women? Care to comment about Biden’s hairline or Andrew’s paunch? Seriously. ---
**Author:** ![Roderick\_Femm](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/roderick_femm/32/14875_2.png) [@Roderick\_Femm](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Roderick_Femm)\ **Post date:** [November 7, 2022, 12:23am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/breaking-the-queen-is-unwell-has-died-8-sep-2022/971212/986 "2022-11-07T00:23:31Z")
Hey, he did ask Og to forgive him for saying it. If that isn’t genuine repentance, what more could he possibly do? I mean, other than not saying/typing it… ---
**Author:** ![needscoffee](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/needscoffee/32/1076_2.png) [@needscoffee](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/needscoffee)\ **Post date:** [November 7, 2022, 1:34am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/breaking-the-queen-is-unwell-has-died-8-sep-2022/971212/987 "2022-11-07T01:34:12Z")
> [@Roderick\_Femm](#): > > Hey, he did ask Og to forgive him IIRC, she/her. ---
**Author:** ![Tarataratara](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/t/f4b2a3/32.png) [@Tarataratara](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Tarataratara)\ **Post date:** [November 26, 2022, 8:12pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/breaking-the-queen-is-unwell-has-died-8-sep-2022/971212/988 "2022-11-26T20:12:10Z")
The Queen dropped off Paddington bears at a children’s center and had a teddy bear tea and story time with the children and Hugh Bonneville of the Paddington movies. [Queen Camilla Visits Children's Tea Party to Donate Paddingtons and Teddy Bears](https://www.harpersbazaar.com/celebrity/latest/a42061430/queen-camilla-childrens-charity-donate-paddington-bears/) ---
**Author:** ![Dewey\_Finn](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/dewey_finn/32/4222_2.png) [@Dewey\_Finn](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Dewey_Finn)\ **Post date:** [November 27, 2022, 4:45am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/breaking-the-queen-is-unwell-has-died-8-sep-2022/971212/989 "2022-11-27T04:45:47Z")
Am I the only one who when seeing a reference to “the queen” thinks only of Elizabeth II? ---
**Author:** ![Acsenray](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/acsenray/32/4519_2.png) [@Acsenray](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Acsenray)\ **Post date:** [November 27, 2022, 4:49am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/breaking-the-queen-is-unwell-has-died-8-sep-2022/971212/990 "2022-11-27T04:49:39Z")
It’ll take some getting used to. ---
**Author:** ![Euphonious\_Polemic](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/euphonious_polemic/32/3002_2.png) [@Euphonious\_Polemic](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Euphonious_Polemic)\ **Post date:** [November 27, 2022, 5:38am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/breaking-the-queen-is-unwell-has-died-8-sep-2022/971212/991 "2022-11-27T05:38:04Z")
You are not the only one. I expect I will keep on thinking that for years. ---
**Author:** ![Bootb](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/b/e19b73/32.png) [@Bootb](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Bootb)\ **Post date:** [November 27, 2022, 6:59am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/breaking-the-queen-is-unwell-has-died-8-sep-2022/971212/992 "2022-11-27T06:59:17Z")
Apparently Queen Elizabeth had bone cancer. > **[Queen Elizabeth Knew Her Time Was Running Short, 'Had No Regrets' Before Her...](https://people.com/royals/queen-elizabeth-knew-her-time-was-running-short-had-no-regrets-before-her-death-book/)** > > In Gyles Brandreth's upcoming book Elizabeth: An Intimate Portrait, he writes that Queen Elizabeth II "knew that her remaining time was limited" ---
**Author:** ![TokyoBayer](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/tokyobayer/32/13989_2.png) [@TokyoBayer](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/TokyoBayer)\ **Post date:** [November 27, 2022, 8:45am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/breaking-the-queen-is-unwell-has-died-8-sep-2022/971212/993 "2022-11-27T08:45:38Z")
Nope, that was the first thing I thought of. ---
**Author:** ![PatrickLondon](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/patricklondon/32/4422_2.png) [@PatrickLondon](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/PatrickLondon)\ **Post date:** [November 27, 2022, 12:19pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/breaking-the-queen-is-unwell-has-died-8-sep-2022/971212/994 "2022-11-27T12:19:00Z")
> [@Acsenray](#): > > It’ll take some getting used to. Hence the adoption of “Queen Consort”, use of which may already be fading away. ---
**Author:** ![Dewey\_Finn](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/dewey_finn/32/4222_2.png) [@Dewey\_Finn](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Dewey_Finn)\ **Post date:** [November 27, 2022, 2:57pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/breaking-the-queen-is-unwell-has-died-8-sep-2022/971212/995 "2022-11-27T14:57:47Z")
That reminds me of something. At the time of the funeral, a Scottish actor received backlash for tweeting the suggestion that the coffin at the lying in state was empty, presumably while her actual body was lying in a climate-controlled morgue someplace. Anyone know if that was true? ---
**Author:** ![SanVito](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/sanvito/32/2805_2.png) [@SanVito](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/SanVito)\ **Post date:** [November 28, 2022, 9:04am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/breaking-the-queen-is-unwell-has-died-8-sep-2022/971212/996 "2022-11-28T09:04:17Z")
Idle speculation with exactly zero evidence. ---
**Author:** ![LSLGuy](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/lslguy/32/5813_2.png) [@LSLGuy](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/LSLGuy)\ **Post date:** [November 28, 2022, 2:43pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/breaking-the-queen-is-unwell-has-died-8-sep-2022/971212/997 "2022-11-28T14:43:11Z")
With the entire resources of the UK government behind her funerary arrangements, having the lying-in-state coffin be ~~climate controlled~~ refrigerated seems like a pretty straightforward accommodation. It’s not like there isn’t a standing protocol department somewhere which handles state funerals, has a playbook for this stuff, maintains equipment, lists of vendors, etc. ---
**Author:** ![PatrickLondon](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/patricklondon/32/4422_2.png) [@PatrickLondon](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/PatrickLondon)\ **Post date:** [November 28, 2022, 5:43pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/breaking-the-queen-is-unwell-has-died-8-sep-2022/971212/998 "2022-11-28T17:43:15Z")
> [@Dewey\_Finn](#): > > the suggestion that the coffin at the lying in state was empty, presumably while her actual body was lying in a climate-controlled morgue someplace Why would anyone do that? ---
**Author:** ![puzzlegal](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/puzzlegal/32/3827_2.png) [@puzzlegal](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/puzzlegal)\ **Post date:** [November 28, 2022, 7:21pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/breaking-the-queen-is-unwell-has-died-8-sep-2022/971212/999 "2022-11-28T19:21:04Z")
Just what i was about to ask. What’s the goal? To prevent her body from decaying for another couple of days? The whole coffin was said to be lined with lead to prevent anyone from seeing any sign of that decay. And the body was probably pumped full of chemicals to slow decay, anyway. You refrigerate bodies if you need to do an autopsy, or plan to take tissue for study or transplanting, or if you don’t want it to rot before it gets embalmed or cremated. But once it’s been embalmed and tucked into a coffin, why refrigerate it any longer? ---
**Author:** ![Procrustus](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/procrustus/32/2994_2.png) [@Procrustus](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Procrustus)\ **Post date:** [November 28, 2022, 8:22pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/breaking-the-queen-is-unwell-has-died-8-sep-2022/971212/1000 "2022-11-28T20:22:00Z")
> [@puzzlegal](#): > > Just what i was about to ask. What’s the goal? T Disclaimer, I don’t think that the coffin was empty. _But_, one theoretical goal would be to prevent the theft of the body. Look at what happened to Lincoln’s corpse. [Was Lincoln’s corpse ever stolen? | The Lincoln Financial Foundation Collection (lincolncollection.org)](https://www.lincolncollection.org/discover/ask-an-expert/qa-archive/was-lincoln%E2%80%99s-corpse-ever-stolen/) [Previous page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/breaking-the-queen-is-unwell-has-died-8-sep-2022/971212.md?page=49) [Next page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/breaking-the-queen-is-unwell-has-died-8-sep-2022/971212.md?page=51)