# Breaking - The Queen is unwell (has died): 8 Sep 2022

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**Category:** Miscellaneous and Personal Stuff I Must Share\
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**Created:** [September 8, 2022, 11:49am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/breaking-the-queen-is-unwell-has-died-8-sep-2022/971212 "2022-09-08T11:49:17Z")\
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**Author:** ![Spoons](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/spoons/32/3141_2.png) [@Spoons](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Spoons)\
**Post date:** [September 8, 2022, 6:34pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/breaking-the-queen-is-unwell-has-died-8-sep-2022/971212/141 "2022-09-08T18:34:40Z")

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Do Q.C.s automatically become K.C.s?

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**Author:** ![Son\_of\_a\_Rich](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/son_of_a_rich/32/5439_2.png) [@Son\_of\_a\_Rich](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Son_of_a_Rich)\
**Post date:** [September 8, 2022, 6:35pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/breaking-the-queen-is-unwell-has-died-8-sep-2022/971212/142 "2022-09-08T18:35:26Z")

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I can see trump playing the statesman and attending her funeral.

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**Author:** ![kayaker](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/kayaker/32/441_2.png) [@kayaker](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/kayaker)\
**Post date:** [September 8, 2022, 6:37pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/breaking-the-queen-is-unwell-has-died-8-sep-2022/971212/143 "2022-09-08T18:37:35Z")

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If so, the interesting part will be other heads of state avoiding any interactions with him.

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**Author:** ![rocking\_chair](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/rocking_chair/32/2918_2.png) [@rocking\_chair](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/rocking_chair)\
**Post date:** [September 8, 2022, 6:38pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/breaking-the-queen-is-unwell-has-died-8-sep-2022/971212/144 "2022-09-08T18:38:28Z")

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the males descending from the queen and prince philip and use and pass on the mountbatten-windsor last name when needed. (harry and meghan’s children have the last name of mountbatten-windsor.)

the males descending from george the 5th use windsor when a last name is needed.

the official name of the royal family is “the house of windsor”.

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**Author:** ![Hypno-Toad](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/h/b2d939/32.png) [@Hypno-Toad](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Hypno-Toad)\
**Post date:** [September 8, 2022, 6:38pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/breaking-the-queen-is-unwell-has-died-8-sep-2022/971212/145 "2022-09-08T18:38:50Z")

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Does being a former president get you an automatic invite?

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**Author:** ![kenobi\_65](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/kenobi_65/32/13178_2.png) [@kenobi\_65](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/kenobi_65)\
**Post date:** [September 8, 2022, 6:38pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/breaking-the-queen-is-unwell-has-died-8-sep-2022/971212/146 "2022-09-08T18:38:51Z")

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> [@Son\_of\_a\_Rich](#):
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> I can see trump playing the statesman and attending her funeral.

I could see Trump _wanting_ to attend. I can foresee no scenario in which the Biden Administration would choose to send him as an official representative, and I would not be surprised at all if the British government would choose to not invite him.

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**Author:** ![wguy123](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/wguy123/32/3161_2.png) [@wguy123](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/wguy123)\
**Post date:** [September 8, 2022, 6:39pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/breaking-the-queen-is-unwell-has-died-8-sep-2022/971212/147 "2022-09-08T18:39:44Z")

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Was this serious or did it drip with the sarcasm I imagined?

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**Author:** ![Spoons](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/spoons/32/3141_2.png) [@Spoons](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Spoons)\
**Post date:** [September 8, 2022, 6:40pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/breaking-the-queen-is-unwell-has-died-8-sep-2022/971212/148 "2022-09-08T18:40:33Z")

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Just now on CNN: It’s confirmed, the King will be known as Charles III.

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**Author:** ![BobLibDem](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/boblibdem/32/3149_2.png) [@BobLibDem](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/BobLibDem)\
**Post date:** [September 8, 2022, 6:41pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/breaking-the-queen-is-unwell-has-died-8-sep-2022/971212/149 "2022-09-08T18:41:16Z")

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A most gracious lady who remained faithful to her duty. I think the two greatest monarchs are each named Elizabeth.

Just curious, how long will it take to alter those Beefeater uniforms that currently show E II R and make them say C III R?

It’s got to be real tough for people to start singing God Save the King, most have never sung those words. I bet a ton of people are going to sing God Save the Qu- I mean King.

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**Author:** ![snowthx](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/snowthx/32/10660_2.png) [@snowthx](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/snowthx)\
**Post date:** [September 8, 2022, 6:41pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/breaking-the-queen-is-unwell-has-died-8-sep-2022/971212/150 "2022-09-08T18:41:44Z")

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> [@Spoons](#):
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> Just now on CNN: It’s confirmed, the King will be known as Charles III.

Were they cavalier about it?

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**Author:** ![Son\_of\_a\_Rich](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/son_of_a_rich/32/5439_2.png) [@Son\_of\_a\_Rich](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Son_of_a_Rich)\
**Post date:** [September 8, 2022, 6:42pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/breaking-the-queen-is-unwell-has-died-8-sep-2022/971212/151 "2022-09-08T18:42:58Z")

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Unfortunately, seriously. But I mean as a private citizen with delusions of importance. He has to maintain his contacts for when he’s reinstated. That part was sarcasm.

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**Author:** ![bob\_2](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/bob_2/32/3341_2.png) [@bob\_2](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/bob_2)\
**Post date:** [September 8, 2022, 6:43pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/breaking-the-queen-is-unwell-has-died-8-sep-2022/971212/152 "2022-09-08T18:43:20Z")

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> [@Son\_of\_a\_Rich](#):
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> I can see trump playing the statesman and attending her funeral.

He is unlikely to be invited

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**Author:** ![wguy123](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/wguy123/32/3161_2.png) [@wguy123](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/wguy123)\
**Post date:** [September 8, 2022, 6:45pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/breaking-the-queen-is-unwell-has-died-8-sep-2022/971212/153 "2022-09-08T18:45:37Z")

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I don’t see him giving a rat’s ass about this. The Queen was never seen in any picture wearing an oversized red ball cap so it’s obvious she’s a RINO!

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**Author:** ![Son\_of\_a\_Rich](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/son_of_a_rich/32/5439_2.png) [@Son\_of\_a\_Rich](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Son_of_a_Rich)\
**Post date:** [September 8, 2022, 6:46pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/breaking-the-queen-is-unwell-has-died-8-sep-2022/971212/154 "2022-09-08T18:46:25Z")

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That would be the biggest insult in history. Nobody’s seen such an insult.

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**Author:** ![Machine\_Elf](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/82dd89/32.png) [@Machine\_Elf](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Machine_Elf)\
**Post date:** [September 8, 2022, 6:46pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/breaking-the-queen-is-unwell-has-died-8-sep-2022/971212/155 "2022-09-08T18:46:26Z")

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> [@Slow\_Moving\_Vehicle](#):
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> Whatever you may think about the value or absurdity of her position, the Queen fulfilled her duty with grace, dignity, and strength.

For the most part, yes - but I will always enjoy the memory of her skydiving into the opening ceremony of the 2012 Summer Olympics in London. Yeah, I know it wasn’t _really_ her, but it was a great showing of her sense of humor, that she was willing to participate in that skit with Daniel Craig as James Bond.

> **[2012 Summer Olympics opening ceremony | Happy and Glorious (21:25–21:35)](https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/2012_Summer_Olympics_opening_ceremony#Happy_and_Glorious_(21:25%E2%80%9321:35))**
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> A short film directed by Boyle and produced by the BBC, called Happy and Glorious (after a line in the national anthem), featured the character James Bond, played by then-Bond actor Daniel Craig, entering the front gate of Buckingham Palace in a London black cab. His entrance (accompanied by an arrangement of Handel's 'The Arrival of the Queen of Sheba') is noticed by Brazilian children (a nod to Rio de Janeiro, which was to be the next summer Games host city) in the throne room. Bond escorted Qu...

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**Post date:** [September 8, 2022, 6:46pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/breaking-the-queen-is-unwell-has-died-8-sep-2022/971212/156 "2022-09-08T18:46:40Z")

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“Royalty” in Name Only?

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**Author:** ![bob\_2](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/bob_2/32/3341_2.png) [@bob\_2](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/bob_2)\
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> [@Son\_of\_a\_Rich](#):
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> They gonna have a big coronation with the carriage and everything?

Good question, but it will be a year or more away.

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**Post date:** [September 8, 2022, 6:49pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/breaking-the-queen-is-unwell-has-died-8-sep-2022/971212/158 "2022-09-08T18:49:36Z")

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It looks like William is now Duke of Cornwall and Cambridge, but not Prince of Wales as that title isn’t automatically passed on.

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**Author:** ![JRDelirious](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/jrdelirious/32/9531_2.png) [@JRDelirious](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/JRDelirious)\
**Post date:** [September 8, 2022, 6:50pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/breaking-the-queen-is-unwell-has-died-8-sep-2022/971212/159 "2022-09-08T18:50:21Z")

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> [@Spoons](#):
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> It’s confirmed, the King will be known as Charles III.

Third time’s the charm!

More seriously, though, having been “Prince _Charles_” for 73 years, it makes sense that one would say what’s the point…

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**Post date:** [September 8, 2022, 7:01pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/breaking-the-queen-is-unwell-has-died-8-sep-2022/971212/160 "2022-09-08T19:01:42Z")

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I attended her Coronation parade at the age of 1 month. She was Queen for my entire life.

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