# Breastfeeeding now pornographic, breastfeeders now creating kiddie porn.

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**Category:** The BBQ Pit\
**Created:** [April 21, 2003, 8:55pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/breastfeeeding-now-pornographic-breastfeeders-now-creating-kiddie-porn/170132 "2003-04-21T20:55:13Z")\
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**Author:** ![Biggirl](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/biggirl/32/3294_2.png) [@Biggirl](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Biggirl)\
**Post date:** [April 22, 2003, 2:36am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/breastfeeeding-now-pornographic-breastfeeders-now-creating-kiddie-porn/170132/21 "2003-04-22T02:36:31Z")

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I hate to break it to those of you who think it’s icky but **THAT’S WHAT TITTIES ARE FOR!!!** The fact that some find them sexually stimulating is besides the fucking point. We are mammals. We are _supposed_ to use our mammary glands to nurish our children. Those of you who find breastfeeding icky or consider it pornographic need to check yourselves.

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**Author:** ![Cavalier](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/c/97f17d/32.png) [@Cavalier](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Cavalier)\
**Post date:** [April 22, 2003, 4:43am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/breastfeeeding-now-pornographic-breastfeeders-now-creating-kiddie-porn/170132/22 "2003-04-22T04:43:41Z")

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> \*Originally posted by Dryga\_Yes \*  
> \*\*We, as Americans, cannot be considered truly free until we can live our entire lives without having to see a female nipple. \*\*

[Don’t move to Maine.](http://www.canoe.ca/CNEWSWeirdNews0202/05_jogging-ap.html)

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**Author:** ![jayjay](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/jayjay/32/6765_2.png) [@jayjay](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/jayjay)\
**Post date:** [April 22, 2003, 5:24am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/breastfeeeding-now-pornographic-breastfeeders-now-creating-kiddie-porn/170132/23 "2003-04-22T05:24:28Z")

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Maybe I don’t get the problem some men have with public breastfeeding because I’m gay. I don’t know.

I do know that I can make the mental distinction between an infant sucking his meal and an adult man (or woman) gnawing on his/her female partners breasts in a restaurant.

One is childcare. One is sex. Give ya ten to one odds on which is which. And the childcare doesn’t bother me in the least, though the sexual situation would make me cringe (not a problem with sex in public, just _straight_ sex in public…icky!).

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**Author:** ![MysteryFellow63427](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/a88e4f/32.png) [@MysteryFellow63427](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/MysteryFellow63427)\
**Post date:** [April 22, 2003, 5:55am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/breastfeeeding-now-pornographic-breastfeeders-now-creating-kiddie-porn/170132/24 "2003-04-22T05:55:40Z")

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> \*Originally posted by Derleth \*  
> **[Another](http://dallasobserver.com/issues/2003-04-17/feature2.html/print.html)**

Richardson, Texas is a blight upon mankind, and needs to be sanitized (read: obliterated with nuclear radiation) along with all the other DFW megaplex suburbs, like Plano, Grapevine, Mesquite, Arlington, North Richland Hills, and Irving.

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**Author:** ![auRa](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/a/c4cdca/32.png) [@auRa](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/auRa)\
**Post date:** [April 22, 2003, 6:02am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/breastfeeeding-now-pornographic-breastfeeders-now-creating-kiddie-porn/170132/25 "2003-04-22T06:02:19Z")

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> \*Originally posted by owlofcreamcheese \*  
> and the fact the other pictures were of the parents have sex and the kid touching his genitals…sort of get me to suspect the roll of film had a sexual theme to it,

I have four little brothers. I have also baby-sat more little children than I can shake a large stick at. As such, I feel that I have seen quite a lot of fairly normal little-boy behavior. Playing with one’s genitals is this type of behavior. Children will, once reaching a certain age, become immensely fascinated with their own body. They will find their private parts an incredibly amusing and funny toy. They will touch them. They will fiddle with them. Sometimes they will touch them and fiddle with them at times when the circumstances do not fully call for tonker-tweaking. I distinctly recall my frustrated parents going through one and a half rolls of film to get one, just one, picture of **Pre-Pubescent Dr. Demento** (then aged three) where his hand wasn’t down the front of his pants. (And even in that one it was definitely on its way there.)

Also, in the Dallas Observer article, it doesn’t state that the parents “have sex” on film. The only reference I could find to any adults in bed was this:

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> Using the camera’s timer, they also took three snapshots of themselves, naked in their bed. They arranged their bodies in ways that showed less flesh than most freeway billboards.

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**Author:** ![Mtgman](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/b5a626/32.png) [@Mtgman](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Mtgman)\
**Post date:** [April 22, 2003, 6:44am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/breastfeeeding-now-pornographic-breastfeeders-now-creating-kiddie-porn/170132/26 "2003-04-22T06:44:33Z")

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> \*Originally posted by neuroman \*  
> \*\*Richardson, Texas is a blight upon mankind, and needs to be sanitized (read: obliterated with nuclear radiation) along with all the other DFW megaplex suburbs, like Plano, Grapevine, Mesquite, Arlington, North Richland Hills, and Irving. \*\*

Ah, a truly enlightened viewpoint.

For anyone interested, a history of the City of Irving can be found [here](http://www.ci.irving.tx.us/Citizens/history.htm). It dates back to the 1850’s whereas Dallas dates back to the 1840’s. Anyone who has even passing familiarity with the area knows that fledgling cities of that era could not possibly have covered the amount of ground between the oldest sections of Dallas and the oldest sections of Irving(Approx 13 miles). Irving was an independent city which was subsumed by the “metroplex”. To call it a “suburb” of Dallas is an insult to over 150 years of history. Many of the “suburbs” in the D/FW metroplex have similar stories.

Enjoy,  
Steven

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**Author:** ![Zoe](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/z/a4c791/32.png) [@Zoe](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Zoe)\
**Post date:** [April 22, 2003, 7:08am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/breastfeeeding-now-pornographic-breastfeeders-now-creating-kiddie-porn/170132/27 "2003-04-22T07:08:31Z")

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Miller said:

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> Do you have any idea the amount of pain caused by breasts in the form of men walking into sign-posts, tripping over the pavement, or getting slapped by their wives and/or girlfriends? Breasts won’t hurt you indeed. They’re a public menace, is what they are.

Breasts don’t hurt people. Sign-posts hurt people.  
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> It means it’s icky to me. I don’t think I’m the only one it’s icky to either.

The idea of taking nourishment in a bathroom is what is repugnant to me. But if the sight of a woman nursing her child in a restaurant grosses you out and you cannot tear your eyes away, take your food into the bathroom and eat it.

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**Author:** ![anya\_marie](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/a/ebca7d/32.png) [@anya\_marie](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/anya_marie)\
**Post date:** [April 22, 2003, 7:20am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/breastfeeeding-now-pornographic-breastfeeders-now-creating-kiddie-porn/170132/28 "2003-04-22T07:20:33Z")

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This is absolutely ridiculous, to harass breasfeeding mothers, and arrest them for lewd conduct. Why it is alright to have all the breasts anybody could want hanging out on magazine cover, on bikini girl posters, and all over the television, is beyond me.

It also seems ridiculous to ask nursing moms to feed their children in public bathrooms, as even the cleanest bathroom has many ways to spread infections.

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**Author:** ![system](https://global.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/original/2X/e/e489c3b7d8fce19c4b355dd4fc3f88cc39c34b87.png) [@system](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/system)\
**Post date:** [April 22, 2003, 9:53am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/breastfeeeding-now-pornographic-breastfeeders-now-creating-kiddie-porn/170132/29 "2003-04-22T09:53:29Z")

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> \*Originally posted by Tinkertoy \*
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> Get a grip guys. Breasts won’t hurt you.
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> Tink \*\*

Well, they might you know. You know if there is too much movement.

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**Author:** ![Drastic](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/f9ae1b/32.png) [@Drastic](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Drastic)\
**Post date:** [April 22, 2003, 10:07am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/breastfeeeding-now-pornographic-breastfeeders-now-creating-kiddie-porn/170132/30 "2003-04-22T10:07:45Z")

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I recall reading a cheerfully bloody-minded crime novel some time ago, name of _Skin Deep_ that involved (best as my hazy memory recalls) the intersection of the criminal underground and plastic surgeons. At one point, one plastic surgeon–who had covered up various botched procedures–was worried about beng sued by the husband of a lady he’d performed a boob job on. He was suing because he’d put out his eye on it.

(It also featured a villain who replaced his severed hand with a high-powered weed trimmer. I need to find that book again.)

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**Author:** ![Princhester](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/p/3e96dc/32.png) [@Princhester](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Princhester)\
**Post date:** [April 22, 2003, 1:19pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/breastfeeeding-now-pornographic-breastfeeders-now-creating-kiddie-porn/170132/31 "2003-04-22T13:19:28Z")

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OMG I’m married to a porn star, and I’m a child pornographer. Just as well I have a digital or I’d have been arrested by now. Of course it’s not just me and my wife. No, there’s all our friends who are part of the child porn ring. We sit around in circles (covens, maybe) and drink stimulant substances (well, OK, coffee) and pore over hot porn. Well, kiddie photos anyway.

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What’s the difference between a doberman and a child protection officer?

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**Author:** ![matt\_mcl](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/7ab992/32.png) [@matt\_mcl](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/matt_mcl)\
**Post date:** [April 22, 2003, 1:52pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/breastfeeeding-now-pornographic-breastfeeders-now-creating-kiddie-porn/170132/32 "2003-04-22T13:52:59Z")

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_stagey voice_ I don’t know, Princhester. What _is_ the difference between a doberman and a child protection officer?

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**Author:** ![SCSimmons](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/e495f1/32.png) [@SCSimmons](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/SCSimmons)\
**Post date:** [April 22, 2003, 2:12pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/breastfeeeding-now-pornographic-breastfeeders-now-creating-kiddie-porn/170132/33 "2003-04-22T14:12:47Z")

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> \*Originally posted by neuroman \*  
> \*\*Richardson, Texas is a blight upon mankind, and needs to be sanitized (read: obliterated with nuclear radiation) along with all the other DFW megaplex suburbs, like Plano, Grapevine, Mesquite, Arlington, North Richland Hills, and Irving. \*\*

Hey! **HEY!!!** I’m sitting in an office building in Irving right now, pretending to work! Don’t nuke me, please! And I just bought a house in Arlington! (Well, I haven’t closed the deal yet, but anyway …) And my sister-in-law lives in North Richland Hills!

Um …

OK, you can nuke North Richland Hills, but leave the rest of them alone. 😃

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**Author:** ![Princhester](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/p/3e96dc/32.png) [@Princhester](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Princhester)\
**Post date:** [April 22, 2003, 2:15pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/breastfeeeding-now-pornographic-breastfeeders-now-creating-kiddie-porn/170132/34 "2003-04-22T14:15:02Z")

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You have some chance of getting your children back from a doberman.

Boom tish!

[sub]Thanks Matt[/sub]

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**Author:** ![carrot](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/c/9de0a6/32.png) [@carrot](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/carrot)\
**Post date:** [April 22, 2003, 2:17pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/breastfeeeding-now-pornographic-breastfeeders-now-creating-kiddie-porn/170132/35 "2003-04-22T14:17:53Z")

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> \*Originally posted by Zoe \*  
> **Breasts don’t hurt people. Sign-posts hurt people.**

Breasts don’t kill people. Breast-_feeding_ kills people.

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**Author:** ![jayjay](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/jayjay/32/6765_2.png) [@jayjay](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/jayjay)\
**Post date:** [April 22, 2003, 2:20pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/breastfeeeding-now-pornographic-breastfeeders-now-creating-kiddie-porn/170132/36 "2003-04-22T14:20:33Z")

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> \*Originally posted by Princhester \*  
> **Thanks Matt**

Ironic, isn’t it? 😉

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**Author:** ![tdn](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/t/94ad74/32.png) [@tdn](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/tdn)\
**Post date:** [April 22, 2003, 2:37pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/breastfeeeding-now-pornographic-breastfeeders-now-creating-kiddie-porn/170132/37 "2003-04-22T14:37:47Z")

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Breat feeding in public is gross, but it gets worse. The other night I was in a restaurant, and I saw this couple **masticating**! In front of their children! And they were encouraging their children to masticate as well!

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**Author:** ![Tabithina](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/t/f04885/32.png) [@Tabithina](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Tabithina)\
**Post date:** [April 22, 2003, 2:53pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/breastfeeeding-now-pornographic-breastfeeders-now-creating-kiddie-porn/170132/38 "2003-04-22T14:53:28Z")

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> \*Originally posted by Zoe \*  
> The idea of taking nourishment in a bathroom is what is repugnant to me. But if the sight of a woman nursing her child in a restaurant grosses you out and you cannot tear your eyes away, take your food into the bathroom and eat it.

ClapClapClapClapClap! Well said, **Zoe**! I was lucky in that nobody ever took me to task for nursing my kids in public, but if they ever had, your line would’ve come in handy.

For my first son, I just threw a recieving blanket over him if he needed to eat while we were away from home. One thing that really bugged me about this was that I felt like I was wearing a billboard that said “Hey! There’s a nursing baby under there!” I also hated to cover him up if it was warm outside. A kid should not have to swelter in order to get his/her milk.

For my second son, I made myself some clothes from patterns I ordered from [Elizabeth Lee](http://www.elizabethlee.com/sewingstore.htm). Lots of maternity stores sell such items as well. Chances are, squeamish people everywhere have been within a few feet of a mom feeding her child breastmilk in public,  
and never even knew it. 😃

I think it’s sad that moms who breastfeed have to take so much flak here in America. Sheesh.

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**Author:** ![BiblioCat](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/b/ed8c4c/32.png) [@BiblioCat](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/BiblioCat)\
**Post date:** [April 22, 2003, 3:10pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/breastfeeeding-now-pornographic-breastfeeders-now-creating-kiddie-porn/170132/39 "2003-04-22T15:10:06Z")

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This whole “going to the bathroom” to nurse is just freaking ridiculous. Just **where** is a woman supposed to sit down to nurse the baby? Most restaurant bathrooms have only toilets, and of course they don’t have lids, like toilets at home. Is she supposed to sit on a **toilet seat** to feed her baby?!?

Some department store bathrooms have “lounges,” with sofas and chairs, but even those are sometimes dirty or just not acceptable. I was once directed to a bathroom with a lounge, that had folding chairs. Yeah, like that’s any big help.

I had some thin cotton blankets (like sheets) that I used to nurse my kids; they weren’t hot, and no one knew what I was doing. Well, they probably guessed, but they certainly couldn’t see, so their eyeballs wouldn’t catch on fire and fall out of their head. :rolleyes:

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**Author:** ![Mtgman](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/b5a626/32.png) [@Mtgman](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Mtgman)\
**Post date:** [April 22, 2003, 3:21pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/breastfeeeding-now-pornographic-breastfeeders-now-creating-kiddie-porn/170132/40 "2003-04-22T15:21:19Z")

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> \*Originally posted by Tinkertoy \*  
> **Get a grip guys. Breasts won’t hurt you.**

Granted, BUT it should be noted that if you get too good a grip the owner of said breasts will almost certainly hurt you.

Enjoy,  
Steven

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