# Breed guessus (WISDOM pending)

**URL:** <https://boards.straightdope.com/t/breed-guessus-wisdom-pending/966969>\
**Category:** In My Humble Opinion\
**Created:** [June 27, 2022, 3:08pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/breed-guessus-wisdom-pending/966969 "2022-06-27T15:08:05Z")\
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We have used [WISDOM PANEL DNA identification](https://www.wisdompanel.com) on our dogs. It’s fun, there are medical applications, and they now can show you dogs related to yours. I’ve guessed correctly on the primary breed with Loki and Kizzy, but I have no clue what we will see with Simi.

[![Imgur](https://i.imgur.com/BKy4JUL.jpeg "imgur.com") ](https://imgur.com/BKy4JUL)  
**Loki**

- 34% German Shepherd Dog
- 23% American Pit Bull Terrier
- 11% Boxer
- 7% Cocker Spaniel
- 4% Rottweiler

[![Imgur](https://i.imgur.com/LhlFRn2.jpeg "imgur.com") ](https://imgur.com/LhlFRn2)

**Kizzy**

- 35% German Shepherd Dog
- 28 % Great Pyrenees (a Great Pyrenees aficionado guessed this based on her eyes)
- 10% Siberian Husky
- 8% Akita
- 5% Norwegian Elkhound

[![Imgur](https://i.imgur.com/Va49uTJ.jpeg "imgur.com") ](https://imgur.com/Va49uTJ)

**Simi**

Simi should be interesting. He comes from St Martin, where he and his litter-mates were abandoned. Mixed breed dogs on small islands tend to all look very similar. Anyone have a guess as to what breed will be number one here?

ETA: Officially the rescue organization has Simi down as a Coconut Retriever.

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**Author:** ![Munch](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/munch/32/5281_2.png) [@Munch](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Munch)\
**Post date:** [June 27, 2022, 3:17pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/breed-guessus-wisdom-pending/966969/2 "2022-06-27T15:17:45Z")

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I’ll go with Catahoula as the primary.

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**Author:** ![Seanette](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/seanette/32/9139_2.png) [@Seanette](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Seanette)\
**Post date:** [June 27, 2022, 3:19pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/breed-guessus-wisdom-pending/966969/3 "2022-06-27T15:19:11Z")

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I say all three have the same primary: Very Good Dogs, who need and deserve lots of cuddles.

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**Post date:** [June 27, 2022, 3:25pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/breed-guessus-wisdom-pending/966969/4 "2022-06-27T15:25:44Z")

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[![Imgur](https://i.imgur.com/UNQnFsx.jpeg "imgur.com") ](https://imgur.com/UNQnFsx)  
They thank you!

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**Post date:** [June 27, 2022, 4:00pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/breed-guessus-wisdom-pending/966969/5 "2022-06-27T16:00:06Z")

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We did the same for our dogs.

They are mostly Border Collie mixes. One looks like a Border collie, the other looks like he has Pointer in him.

But they both have Pit Bull, which was a bit of a surprise. The dogs are unrelated to each other.

They have the Border Collie laser focus. They try to herd squirrels. Not very successful at that though.

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**Author:** ![gnoitall](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/g/bb73d2/32.png) [@gnoitall](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/gnoitall)\
**Post date:** [June 27, 2022, 4:06pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/breed-guessus-wisdom-pending/966969/6 "2022-06-27T16:06:49Z")

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> [@Seanette](#):
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> deserve lots of cuddles.

I would estimate

- 54% cuddles
- 38% scritches
- 8% treats

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**Post date:** [June 27, 2022, 4:08pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/breed-guessus-wisdom-pending/966969/7 "2022-06-27T16:08:20Z")

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Makes sense to me.

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**Post date:** [June 27, 2022, 4:28pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/breed-guessus-wisdom-pending/966969/8 "2022-06-27T16:28:08Z")

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[![Imgur](https://i.imgur.com/PKCUcAJ.jpeg "imgur.com") ](https://imgur.com/PKCUcAJ)  
Kizzy has always had one ear up and one ear down. She has three relatives found on WISDOM, and they all share the ear thing!..

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**Post date:** [June 27, 2022, 8:15pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/breed-guessus-wisdom-pending/966969/9 "2022-06-27T20:15:16Z")

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Coconut retriever. That’s funny!

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**Post date:** [June 27, 2022, 9:25pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/breed-guessus-wisdom-pending/966969/10 "2022-06-27T21:25:13Z")

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Based on the brindle coloration, chest blaze, whippy tail and set of ears and eyes I’m guessing there’s some pit in there although likely not the primary. Probably actually has some Lab in there and possibly some cattle dog or Aussie shepherd to explain the freckles. Concur with assessment of Very Good Doggo who heckin’ needs a scritch on them oversized ears!

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**Post date:** [July 6, 2022, 2:16pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/breed-guessus-wisdom-pending/966969/11 "2022-07-06T14:16:52Z")

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Well, the results are in and they are as whacky as I expected. They detected **22** different breeds! That’s huge, which I guess can be explained by the small island effect. For comparison, Kizzy had **11** breeds and Loki had **15**.

Primary breeds:

- 21% Chihuahua
- 17% Chow Chow
- 9% American Pit Bull Terrier
- 4% Peruvian Inca Orchid

Lesser Breeds:

- 4% Russian Toy Terrier
- 4% Poodle (Toy and Miniature)
- 3% Siberiean Husky
- 3% Rottweiler
- 3% Coton de Tulear
- 3% Berger d’Auvergne
- 3% Labrador Retriever
- 2% American Staffordshire Terrier
- 2%Miniature Pinscher
- 2% Chinese Shar-Pei
- 2%Maltese
- 2% Keeshond
- 2% Shih-Tzu
- 2%Dalmatian
- 2% Rhodesian Ridgeback
- 2%Fijan Street Dog
- 2% Catahoula Leopard Dog @Munch

Wow.

All the health parameters were good. They were able to describe some general characteristics, like short coat, minimal shedding, dominant black, points, brown eyes, upright ears, an average to long snout.

Now here is where things get interesting. Simi has a “relative” that shares a some DNA! But that’s not all. Simi’s (distant) relative has some biographical information her owner shared and she comes from the same shelter on the same island via the same person!!

[![Imgur](https://i.imgur.com/K5n4giq.jpeg "imgur.com") ](https://imgur.com/K5n4giq)

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> [@kayaker](#):
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> Officially the rescue organization has Simi down as a Coconut Retriever.

Does she retrieve many of them?

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**Post date:** [July 6, 2022, 7:26pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/breed-guessus-wisdom-pending/966969/13 "2022-07-06T19:26:08Z")

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Haven’t bought one to offer him.

A friend in St Martin has a little stand where he sells coconut drinks. He uses a machete to trim away the top, adding a shot of liquor if you want.

Cool way to make a living. Near zero overhead (he collects the coconuts himself and the liquor is cheap well stuff). He charges €5 a pop and gets tips on top of that.

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**Post date:** [July 7, 2022, 2:41am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/breed-guessus-wisdom-pending/966969/14 "2022-07-07T02:41:29Z")

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Well I certainly would not have guessed the biggest contributor was Chihuahua!

And of course of those breed names are new to me …
