# BrEkers, Tell Me All About G\*.
**URL:** https://boards.straightdope.com/t/brekers-tell-me-all-about-g/556308
**Category:** The BBQ Pit
**Created:** [October 7, 2010, 12:18am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/brekers-tell-me-all-about-g/556308 "2010-10-07T00:18:23Z")
**Posts on this page:** 20
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### Author:  [@El\_Kabong](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/El_Kabong)
#### Post date: [October 7, 2010, 5:58pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/brekers-tell-me-all-about-g/556308/61 "2010-10-07T17:58:39Z")
> [@Euphonious\_Polemic](#):
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> C’mon guys, it’s pretty easy to break down what he’s saying:
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> Essentially, a descriptively adequate grammar is to be regarded as a general convention regarding the forms of the grammar. On our assumptions, any associated supporting element is necessary to impose an interpretation on a descriptive fact. However, this assumption is not correct, since the notion of level of grammaticalness does not affect the structure of the strong generative capacity of the theory.
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> Of course, the fundamental error of regarding functional notions as categorial raises serious doubts about a parasitic gap construction. If the position of the trace in (99c) were only relatively inaccessible to movement, the systematic use of complex symbols cannot be arbitrary in the ultimate standard that determines the accuracy of any proposed grammar.
Hmm, that was indeed rather euphonius and yet polemical.
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### Author:  [@El\_Kabong](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/El_Kabong)
#### Post date: [October 7, 2010, 6:00pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/brekers-tell-me-all-about-g/556308/62 "2010-10-07T18:00:03Z")
> [@Bambro](#):
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> In any other thread what I am about to admit would be cause for great embarrassment.
> I have read every post in this fucking thread and still have no idea what the fuck it is about or who it is pitting.
For that, you’ll need to wait around for at least post #666.
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### Author:  [@Boyo\_Jim](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Boyo_Jim)
#### Post date: [October 7, 2010, 6:08pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/brekers-tell-me-all-about-g/556308/63 "2010-10-07T18:08:31Z")
> [@El\_Kabong](#):
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> > [@Euphonious\_Polemic](#):
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> > C’mon guys, it’s pretty easy to break down what he’s saying:
> >
> > Essentially, a descriptively adequate grammar is to be regarded as a general convention regarding the forms of the grammar. On our assumptions, any associated supporting element is necessary to impose an interpretation on a descriptive fact. However, this assumption is not correct, since the notion of level of grammaticalness does not affect the structure of the strong generative capacity of the theory.
> >
> > Of course, the fundamental error of regarding functional notions as categorial raises serious doubts about a parasitic gap construction. If the position of the trace in (99c) were only relatively inaccessible to movement, the systematic use of complex symbols cannot be arbitrary in the ultimate standard that determines the accuracy of any proposed grammar.
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> Hmm, that was indeed rather euphonius and yet polemical.
Rich in theology and geometry.
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### Author:  [@Munch](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Munch)
#### Post date: [October 7, 2010, 6:13pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/brekers-tell-me-all-about-g/556308/64 "2010-10-07T18:13:31Z")
Shaka, when the walls fell.
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### Author:  [@Boyo\_Jim](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Boyo_Jim)
#### Post date: [October 7, 2010, 6:26pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/brekers-tell-me-all-about-g/556308/65 "2010-10-07T18:26:17Z")
E pleb neesta.
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### Author:  [@Wile\_E](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Wile_E)
#### Post date: [October 7, 2010, 6:34pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/brekers-tell-me-all-about-g/556308/66 "2010-10-07T18:34:40Z")
I’m so confused and I still know nothing about G\*.
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### Author:  [@Attack\_from\_the\_3rd\_dimension](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Attack_from_the_3rd_dimension)
#### Post date: [October 7, 2010, 6:44pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/brekers-tell-me-all-about-g/556308/67 "2010-10-07T18:44:15Z")
> [@Wile\_E](#):
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> I’m so confused and I still know nothing about G\*.
Start with G. Once you understand G, G\* can be derived by assuming a different set of axioms.
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### Author:  [@Wile\_E](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Wile_E)
#### Post date: [October 7, 2010, 7:13pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/brekers-tell-me-all-about-g/556308/68 "2010-10-07T19:13:03Z")
> [@Attack\_from\_the\_3rd\_dimension](#):
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> > [@Wile\_E](#):
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> > I’m so confused and I still know nothing about G\*.
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> Start with G. Once you understand G, G\* can be derived by assuming a different set of axioms.
That sounds complicated.
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### Author:  [@Shagnasty](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Shagnasty)
#### Post date: [October 7, 2010, 7:16pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/brekers-tell-me-all-about-g/556308/69 "2010-10-07T19:16:18Z")
> [@Wile\_E](#):
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> I’m so confused and I still know nothing about G\*.
To know G, one must first travel to the spot.
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### Author:  [@Smeghead](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Smeghead)
#### Post date: [October 7, 2010, 7:24pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/brekers-tell-me-all-about-g/556308/70 "2010-10-07T19:24:37Z")
> [@Shagnasty](#):
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> > [@Wile\_E](#):
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> > I’m so confused and I still know nothing about G\*.
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> To know G, one must first travel to the spot.
Don’t be silly. That’s just imaginary.
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### Author:  [@Leaffan](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Leaffan)
#### Post date: [October 7, 2010, 7:25pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/brekers-tell-me-all-about-g/556308/71 "2010-10-07T19:25:54Z")
> [@Shodan](#):
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> > [@silenus](#):
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> > I wonder if this thread would go best with Eagle Rare bourbon, or Sazerac rye?
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> > Decisions, decisions.
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> You don’t have to choose.
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> Regards,
> Shodan
Yes, but if you choose not to decide, you still have made a choice.
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### Author:  [@Lare](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Lare)
#### Post date: [October 7, 2010, 7:56pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/brekers-tell-me-all-about-g/556308/72 "2010-10-07T19:56:50Z")
> [@Leaffan](#):
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> Yes, but if you choose not to decide, you still have made a choice.
If I haven’t yet decided have I also made a choice? Shades of pre-ordination!
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### Author:  [@Der\_Trihs](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Der_Trihs)
#### Post date: [October 7, 2010, 7:58pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/brekers-tell-me-all-about-g/556308/73 "2010-10-07T19:58:39Z")
> [@Munch](#):
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> Shaka, when the walls fell.
> [@Boyo\_Jim](#):
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> E pleb neesta.
Klaatu barada nikto.
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### Author:  [@Boyo\_Jim](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Boyo_Jim)
#### Post date: [October 7, 2010, 8:01pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/brekers-tell-me-all-about-g/556308/74 "2010-10-07T20:01:02Z")
Even if you forgot to choose, you have made an unconscious choice to not choose.
If you have have not yet chosen, you have made a conscious choice to not choose yet.
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### Author:  [@Duke](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Duke)
#### Post date: [October 7, 2010, 8:07pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/brekers-tell-me-all-about-g/556308/75 "2010-10-07T20:07:45Z")
> [@Shagnasty](#):
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> > [@Wile\_E](#):
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> > I’m so confused and I still know nothing about G\*.
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> To know G, one must first travel to the spot.
No thanks, I tried that and the bed got soaked. Also the walls, the ceiling…
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### Author:  [@Nars\_Glinley](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Nars_Glinley)
#### Post date: [October 7, 2010, 8:09pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/brekers-tell-me-all-about-g/556308/76 "2010-10-07T20:09:09Z")
> [@adhay](#):
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> A Letter My Son, A Basic Fundie.
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> [dad]
> Dear \*,
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> All souls are in AND of God and always have been. Eternity has neither beginning nor end nor time and space.
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> [SNIP!]
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> When the Light comes it is as darkness had not been.
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> Love,
> Dad[/dad]
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> Better?
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> IDTS.
Dear adhay,
Can I get the Cliff Notes version?
kthxbye
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### Author:  [@begbert2](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/begbert2)
#### Post date: [October 7, 2010, 10:26pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/brekers-tell-me-all-about-g/556308/77 "2010-10-07T22:26:14Z")
Hell, I just want an _explanation_. Preferably pontificating on 1) who is being pitted, 2) what the OP is hoping to convey, and 3) what postscript is being referred to by G\*.
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### Author:  [@Shagnasty](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Shagnasty)
#### Post date: [October 7, 2010, 10:51pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/brekers-tell-me-all-about-g/556308/78 "2010-10-07T22:51:49Z")
> [@begbert2](#):
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> Hell, I just want an _explanation_. Preferably pontificating on 1) who is being pitted, 2) what the OP is hoping to convey, and 3) what postscript is being referred to by G\*.
Oh, don’t play dumb. I think it was perfectly clear to you and everyone else. You just can’t handle the real truth. In case you are serious, “G” is [Gumby](http://www.google.com/imgres?imgurl=http://yogaspy.files.wordpress.com/2009/10/gumby2.jpg&imgrefurl=http://mrogen.blogspot.com/2010/01/gumbys-creater-art-clokey.html&h=483&w=300&sz=24&tbnid=0J4uymcmH8CHsM:&tbnh=285&tbnw=177&prev=/images%3Fq%3Dgumby&zoom=1&q=gumby&hl=en&usg=__CZ4_RD62BFyjQDMBZmvpV4vbfrM=&sa=X&ei=w06uTJPgJ8T6lwfB_LXpBQ&sqi=2&ved=0CCEQ9QEwAA)
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### Author:  [@Autolycus](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Autolycus)
#### Post date: [October 7, 2010, 11:14pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/brekers-tell-me-all-about-g/556308/79 "2010-10-07T23:14:01Z")
> [@Leaffan](#):
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> > [@Shodan](#):
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> > You don’t have to choose.
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> > Regards,
> > Shodan
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> Yes, but if you choose not to decide, you still have made a choice.
I choose not to choose. All are one. Be as the dog-nature.
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### Author:  [@PhiloVance](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/PhiloVance)
#### Post date: [October 7, 2010, 11:14pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/brekers-tell-me-all-about-g/556308/80 "2010-10-07T23:14:05Z")
> [@Shagnasty](#):
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> > [@begbert2](#):
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> > Hell, I just want an _explanation_. Preferably pontificating on 1) who is being pitted, 2) what the OP is hoping to convey, and 3) what postscript is being referred to by G\*.
>
> Oh, don’t play dumb. I think it was perfectly clear to you and everyone else. You just can’t handle the real truth. In case you are serious, “G” is [Gumby](http://www.google.com/imgres?imgurl=http://yogaspy.files.wordpress.com/2009/10/gumby2.jpg&imgrefurl=http://mrogen.blogspot.com/2010/01/gumbys-creater-art-clokey.html&h=483&w=300&sz=24&tbnid=0J4uymcmH8CHsM:&tbnh=285&tbnw=177&prev=/images%3Fq%3Dgumby&zoom=1&q=gumby&hl=en&usg=__CZ4_RD62BFyjQDMBZmvpV4vbfrM=&sa=X&ei=w06uTJPgJ8T6lwfB_LXpBQ&sqi=2&ved=0CCEQ9QEwAA)
Then why was pokey not mentioned, huh, huh! 😕
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