# Brent Spiner to join Enterprise? (spoilers likely) **URL:** \ **Category:** Cafe Society\ **Created:** [August 30, 2004, 12:07am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/brent-spiner-to-join-enterprise-spoilers-likely/262141 "2004-08-30T00:07:24Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 19\ **Page:** 1
**Author:** ![Skywatcher](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/skywatcher/32/254_2.png) [@Skywatcher](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Skywatcher)\ **Post date:** [August 30, 2004, 12:07am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/brent-spiner-to-join-enterprise-spoilers-likely/262141/1 "2004-08-30T00:07:24Z")
No, not as Data. 🙂 According to [startrek.com](http://www.startrek.com/startrek/view/news/article/6193.html), he’ll be be in three episodes as Arik Soong, Noonian’s great-uncle or something. Arik is something of a 22[sup]nd[/sup] Century Frankenstein, a fugitive genetic engineer and a veteran of Khan’s Eugenic Wars. We will see Orions ---
**Author:** ![Skywatcher](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/skywatcher/32/254_2.png) [@Skywatcher](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Skywatcher)\ **Post date:** [August 30, 2004, 12:09am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/brent-spiner-to-join-enterprise-spoilers-likely/262141/2 "2004-08-30T00:09:28Z")
in the season premiere and, yes, the green-skinned slave girls as well. ---
**Author:** ![bughunter](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/b/aeb1de/32.png) [@bughunter](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/bughunter)\ **Post date:** [August 30, 2004, 12:27am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/brent-spiner-to-join-enterprise-spoilers-likely/262141/3 "2004-08-30T00:27:27Z")
Ya know, if they really wanted to whore Spiner for ratings, then why don’t they just go all out and have him play Data. Or even Lore. Didn’t anyone on the writing staff read Asimov? It’d fit right in with their wholesale abuse of time travel as well. Here’s how: - Data, being an android… with a positronic brain no less… is immortal. So if he hangs around long enough, he will eventually encounter a means of time travel. - Time travelling Data decides to travel back to pre-Warp Earth, to discover it embroiled in global war. Being an android, he has to go undercover. Probably as a Chinese ambassador or something to explain his bizzare behavior and appearance. - Data gets wind of strange goings on, a Reptilian alien SS Officer and a german POW who sounds quite out of place. - Archer and Data gallavant around 20th century Europe before being rescued by Archer’s time travelling crew via solar whiplash in the Enterprise’s shuttlepod. Sounds horrible, eh? Well, then it’s ready for production! ---
**Author:** ![Troy\_McClure\_SF](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/troy_mcclure_sf/32/4150_2.png) [@Troy\_McClure\_SF](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Troy_McClure_SF)\ **Post date:** [August 30, 2004, 1:38am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/brent-spiner-to-join-enterprise-spoilers-likely/262141/4 "2004-08-30T01:38:08Z")
> [@bughunter](#): > > - Data, being an android… with a positronic brain no less… is immortal. So if he hangs around long enough, he will eventually encounter a means of time travel. Well, the end of _Nemesis_ showed that he was not indeed indestructible. That said, if Kirk & Co. figured out time travel in _ST IV_, Data could very well time travel, though I’d think if he did, it’d be included in a _TNG_ storyline, either TV or movies. ---
**Author:** ![Ephemera](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/e/8baadc/32.png) [@Ephemera](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Ephemera)\ **Post date:** [August 30, 2004, 4:45am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/brent-spiner-to-join-enterprise-spoilers-likely/262141/5 "2004-08-30T04:45:27Z")
I already knew that he and Shatner were rumored to guest star on the show and have come to accept it even though I hate it but when I saw the title of this thread, I thought you were posting to say he was going to pull a Dorn and actually _join the cast_, almost causing me to have an aneurysm. You’re now on my short list and _sto’vo’kohr_ hath no fury like a Trekkie scorned. Or something. :wally ---
**Author:** ![Eonwe](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/eonwe/32/240_2.png) [@Eonwe](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Eonwe)\ **Post date:** [August 30, 2004, 5:22am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/brent-spiner-to-join-enterprise-spoilers-likely/262141/6 "2004-08-30T05:22:59Z")
Michael Dorn is in the _cast_ for Enterprise!?!? ---
**Author:** ![Ephemera](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/e/8baadc/32.png) [@Ephemera](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Ephemera)\ **Post date:** [August 30, 2004, 5:27am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/brent-spiner-to-join-enterprise-spoilers-likely/262141/7 "2004-08-30T05:27:53Z")
No. I was referring to him reprising his role of Worf on DS9 after TNG. Man, I know you like TOS and all, but I didn’t think you were _that_ out of it. ---
**Author:** ![Eonwe](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/eonwe/32/240_2.png) [@Eonwe](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Eonwe)\ **Post date:** [August 30, 2004, 5:35am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/brent-spiner-to-join-enterprise-spoilers-likely/262141/8 "2004-08-30T05:35:41Z")
Well, it’s what happens with old age. And a double dumb-ass on you! ---
**Author:** ![Bryan\_Ekers](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/bryan_ekers/32/183_2.png) [@Bryan\_Ekers](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Bryan_Ekers)\ **Post date:** [August 30, 2004, 7:16am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/brent-spiner-to-join-enterprise-spoilers-likely/262141/9 "2004-08-30T07:16:25Z")
Meh, I didn’t have a problem with Dorn’s “transfer” to DS9, insofar as it helped springboard some of the Klingon-based episodes that were part of that whole Dominion War story arc. I was a little put off the contrived ways they sneaked him back onto the Enterprise-E for the later TNG movies, though, where the Dominian War didn’t seem to be happening at all (hey, let’s go help the ugly aliens push around the hot immortal aliens! Yeah, that’s a good use for our time _in the middle of a freakin’ war!_) ---
**Author:** ![Ephemera](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/e/8baadc/32.png) [@Ephemera](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Ephemera)\ **Post date:** [August 30, 2004, 7:21am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/brent-spiner-to-join-enterprise-spoilers-likely/262141/10 "2004-08-30T07:21:33Z")
Oh, don’t get me wrong… I liked Worf on DS9 and actually enjoyed him more on it than I did on TNG. He seemed a more natural fit and wasn’t a one-dimensional character either. That doesn’t mean I want to see it happen again though. Especially in a show set a hundred years before TOS and two before TNG/DS9/VOY. ---
**Author:** ![Ephemera](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/e/8baadc/32.png) [@Ephemera](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Ephemera)\ **Post date:** [August 30, 2004, 7:25am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/brent-spiner-to-join-enterprise-spoilers-likely/262141/11 "2004-08-30T07:25:39Z")
…and yes! I \*HATED \*that they kept sneaking him back for all the later movies. He’s a freakin’ DS9 character now… leave him be! I especially loathed _Nemesis_ for having him back in uniform when he was the friggin’ Klingon Ambassador to the Federation and now resides on _Qo’nos_! I can accept him being there for the wedding but not as an officer. _Grar!_ ---
**Author:** ![FriarTed](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/friarted/32/1052_2.png) [@FriarTed](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/FriarTed)\ **Post date:** [August 30, 2004, 11:34am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/brent-spiner-to-join-enterprise-spoilers-likely/262141/12 "2004-08-30T11:34:26Z")
RE any griping about Brent Spiner & William Shatner on ENTERPRISE… the reason you’re griping is you know you’ll watch those. Heck, I will & I’ve never had any desire to watch ENTERPRISE till I read this. ---
**Author:** ![Ephemera](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/e/8baadc/32.png) [@Ephemera](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Ephemera)\ **Post date:** [August 30, 2004, 11:37am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/brent-spiner-to-join-enterprise-spoilers-likely/262141/13 "2004-08-30T11:37:45Z")
Um, yeah. I watch every episode so it’s likely I’ll watch any episode they’re in too. I’m not getting your point. ---
**Author:** ![Horatio\_Hellpop](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/h/e5b9ba/32.png) [@Horatio\_Hellpop](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Horatio_Hellpop)\ **Post date:** [August 30, 2004, 11:48am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/brent-spiner-to-join-enterprise-spoilers-likely/262141/14 "2004-08-30T11:48:44Z")
> [@Aesiron](#): > > …and yes! I \*HATED \*that they kept sneaking him back for all the later movies. He’s a freakin’ DS9 character now… leave him be! I especially loathed _Nemesis_ for having him back in uniform when he was the friggin’ Klingon Ambassador to the Federation and now resides on _Qo’nos_! I can accept him being there for the wedding but not as an officer. > > _Grar!_ I’m pretty sure he ditched the uniform for the second ceremony on Betazed… ---
**Author:** ![Diceman](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/22d042/32.png) [@Diceman](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Diceman)\ **Post date:** [August 30, 2004, 11:50am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/brent-spiner-to-join-enterprise-spoilers-likely/262141/15 "2004-08-30T11:50:02Z")
> [@Aesiron](#): > > …and yes! I \*HATED \*that they kept sneaking him back for all the later movies. He’s a freakin’ DS9 character now… leave him be! I especially loathed _Nemesis_ for having him back in uniform when he was the friggin’ Klingon Ambassador to the Federation and now resides on _Qo’nos_! I can accept him being there for the wedding but not as an officer. > > _Grar!_ Supposedly, there is a deleted scene in _Nemesis_ in which they establish that Worf has given up on being an ambassador and has returned to the Enterprise full-time. And really, what were they smoking when they decided that Worf was diplomat material? ---
**Author:** ![Ephemera](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/e/8baadc/32.png) [@Ephemera](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Ephemera)\ **Post date:** [August 30, 2004, 11:56am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/brent-spiner-to-join-enterprise-spoilers-likely/262141/16 "2004-08-30T11:56:27Z")
It’s not on the DVD, thankfully. Tranferring him back to the Enterprise after putting him to DS9, the Defiant, and then _Qo’nos_ would be as stupid as … well, having him in \*Insurrection \*and _Nemesis_. Sigh. I hate Bermaga. ---
**Author:** ![Skywatcher](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/skywatcher/32/254_2.png) [@Skywatcher](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Skywatcher)\ **Post date:** [August 30, 2004, 12:16pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/brent-spiner-to-join-enterprise-spoilers-likely/262141/17 "2004-08-30T12:16:42Z")
> [@Aesiron](#): > > I already knew that he and Shatner were rumored to guest star on the show and have come to accept it even though I hate it but when I saw the title of this thread, I thought you were posting to say he was going to pull a Dorn and actually join the cast, almost causing me to have an aneurysm. Blame UPN. I went with my first thought after hearing one of the “Brent Spiner is coming to Enterprise” promos. ---
**Author:** ![Hail\_Ants](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/h/dc4da7/32.png) [@Hail\_Ants](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Hail_Ants)\ **Post date:** [August 31, 2004, 3:27am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/brent-spiner-to-join-enterprise-spoilers-likely/262141/18 "2004-08-31T03:27:36Z")
Maybe its BS, but supposedly Spiner is a big fan of the show (ST:ENT that is). He even joked when asked about it by a journalist that he collects all the action figures and re-enacts scenes every week! ---
**Author:** ![Ephemera](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/e/8baadc/32.png) [@Ephemera](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Ephemera)\ **Post date:** [August 31, 2004, 5:56am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/brent-spiner-to-join-enterprise-spoilers-likely/262141/19 "2004-08-31T05:56:30Z")
> [@startrek.com](#): > > Where do you turn for the largest, most intimidating guys you can find? How about taking a cue from “Tsunkatse”? Enter the largest wrestler in the WWE, known as “The Big Show,” Paul Wight — at 7’1" and 450 lbs. — as “Orion Slaver #1.” It took a lot of green body makeup to cover that hulking form. (Sorry for the pun.) :rolleyes: