# Brett Favre go away!

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**Category:** The Game Room\
**Created:** [July 7, 2008, 12:10pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/brett-favre-go-away/455542 "2008-07-07T12:10:05Z")\
**Posts on this page:** 20\
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**Author:** ![Diogenes\_the\_Cynic](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/e99b99/32.png) [@Diogenes\_the\_Cynic](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Diogenes_the_Cynic)\
**Post date:** [August 7, 2008, 7:45pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/brett-favre-go-away/455542/181 "2008-08-07T19:45:33Z")

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So they “first dicussed” a possible fake job in March, but they actually flew down to Mississippi and offered the $20 million bribe just last week. Favre himself said they were just trying to buy him off.

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**Author:** ![Hawkeyeop](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/h/958977/32.png) [@Hawkeyeop](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Hawkeyeop)\
**Post date:** [August 7, 2008, 7:48pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/brett-favre-go-away/455542/182 "2008-08-07T19:48:31Z")

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[QUOTE=Diogenes the Cynic]  
He should get the credit because he single handedly carried that shitty franchise on his back for 16 years. They were ass before he got there and they’ll be ass again now that he’s gone. He never once had another superstar offensive weapon while he was there. He just made average players look better.  
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That Sharpe guy was pretty good before he got hurt. He didn’t singlehandly do anything ever. No NFL player is so great that they don’t rely on teammates. Farve was a product of his receivers, his running backs, his offensive line, the schemes of his coaching, defense, special teams, and more. While I don’t agree that he has done hardly anything for the franchise, (Perenial contender is a pretty important achievement even with only one title) you can’t say it was all Farve.

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**Author:** ![Diogenes\_the\_Cynic](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/e99b99/32.png) [@Diogenes\_the\_Cynic](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Diogenes_the_Cynic)\
**Post date:** [August 7, 2008, 7:54pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/brett-favre-go-away/455542/183 "2008-08-07T19:54:36Z")

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I think he made a bunch of average teams into good teams, a couple of good teams into great teams and a couple of crappy teams into average teams.

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**Author:** ![Gangster\_Octopus](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/g/a8b319/32.png) [@Gangster\_Octopus](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Gangster_Octopus)\
**Post date:** [August 7, 2008, 8:02pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/brett-favre-go-away/455542/184 "2008-08-07T20:02:22Z")

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We all know **Dio** is not the most objective commentator on the Packers.

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**Author:** ![storyteller0910](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/ecae2f/32.png) [@storyteller0910](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/storyteller0910)\
**Post date:** [August 7, 2008, 8:11pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/brett-favre-go-away/455542/185 "2008-08-07T20:11:05Z")

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[QUOTE=Gangster Octopus]  
We all know **Dio** is not the most objective commentator on the Packers.  
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True. On a related note, I hear Donovan McNabb kills puppies and Tony Romo eats them.

- Giants Fan

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**Author:** ![Really\_Not\_All\_That\_Bright](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/r/e8c25b/32.png) [@Really\_Not\_All\_That\_Bright](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Really_Not_All_That_Bright)\
**Post date:** [August 7, 2008, 8:12pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/brett-favre-go-away/455542/186 "2008-08-07T20:12:34Z")

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[QUOTE=Diogenes the Cynic]  
So they “first dicussed” a possible fake job in March, but they actually flew down to Mississippi and offered the $20 million bribe just last week. Favre himself said they were just trying to buy him off.  
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Right, because Favre is purer than the driven snow and Jesus Christ himself and would never lie to the fans!

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**Author:** ![Diogenes\_the\_Cynic](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/e99b99/32.png) [@Diogenes\_the\_Cynic](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Diogenes_the_Cynic)\
**Post date:** [August 7, 2008, 8:14pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/brett-favre-go-away/455542/187 "2008-08-07T20:14:03Z")

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[QUOTE=Really Not All That Bright]  
Right, because Favre is purer than the driven snow and Jesus Christ himself and would never lie to the fans!  
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You’re saying they _didn’t_ fly to Mississippi and offer him $20 million not to play?

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**Author:** ![Hampshire](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/hampshire/32/4887_2.png) [@Hampshire](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Hampshire)\
**Post date:** [August 7, 2008, 8:16pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/brett-favre-go-away/455542/188 "2008-08-07T20:16:12Z")

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[QUOTE=Diogenes the Cynic]

Maybe you don’t remember what the packers had become before Favre got there. They were perenniel cellar dwellers whose glory days were ancient history. Favre made them into a perennial playoff team and took them to two Superbowls, but more than that, he restored the image of the franchise as a jewel of the NFL and professional sports.  
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Oh I remember all right. I remember them playing the song “Don’t Worry, Be Happy” on morning radio with the words changed to  
_I know Majkowski has let you down,_  
_At least you’re not the Cleveland Browns_  
_Don’t worry… Infante_

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**Author:** ![Gangster\_Octopus](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/g/a8b319/32.png) [@Gangster\_Octopus](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Gangster_Octopus)\
**Post date:** [August 7, 2008, 8:20pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/brett-favre-go-away/455542/189 "2008-08-07T20:20:41Z")

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I remember before Favre got to the Packers cell phones were a novelty, DVDs didn’t exist and the internet was a text driven plaything of Academia. Is that all going to come back now that Favre left the Packers?

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**Author:** ![Really\_Not\_All\_That\_Bright](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/r/e8c25b/32.png) [@Really\_Not\_All\_That\_Bright](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Really_Not_All_That_Bright)\
**Post date:** [August 7, 2008, 8:21pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/brett-favre-go-away/455542/190 "2008-08-07T20:21:23Z")

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[QUOTE=Diogenes the Cynic]  
You’re saying they _didn’t_ fly to Mississippi and offer him $20 million not to play?  
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They had already offered him $20 million not to play when they flew down to Mississippi to tell him not to.

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**Author:** ![DudleyGarrett](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/d9b06d/32.png) [@DudleyGarrett](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/DudleyGarrett)\
**Post date:** [August 7, 2008, 8:22pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/brett-favre-go-away/455542/191 "2008-08-07T20:22:26Z")

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In other news, John Madden has demanded that all 16 New York Jets regular season games be broadcast on NBC’s Sunday Night Football or he’s going to demand a trade.

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**Author:** ![Diogenes\_the\_Cynic](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/e99b99/32.png) [@Diogenes\_the\_Cynic](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Diogenes_the_Cynic)\
**Post date:** [August 7, 2008, 8:25pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/brett-favre-go-away/455542/192 "2008-08-07T20:25:54Z")

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[QUOTE=Gangster Octopus]  
I remember before Favre got to the Packers cell phones were a novelty, DVDs didn’t exist and the internet was a text driven plaything of Academia. Is that all going to come back now that Favre left the Packers?  
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It _is_ Wisconsin.

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**Author:** ![Really\_Not\_All\_That\_Bright](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/r/e8c25b/32.png) [@Really\_Not\_All\_That\_Bright](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Really_Not_All_That_Bright)\
**Post date:** [August 7, 2008, 8:26pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/brett-favre-go-away/455542/193 "2008-08-07T20:26:43Z")

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[QUOTE=DudleyGarrett]  
In other news, John Madden has demanded that all 16 New York Jets regular season games be broadcast on NBC’s Sunday Night Football or he’s going to demand a trade.  
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I think Madden’s plan is just to refer to every quarterback as Brett Favre all season.

“Look at how Favre sees the rush here, as he hands off to Willie Parker.”

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**Author:** ![Diogenes\_the\_Cynic](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/e99b99/32.png) [@Diogenes\_the\_Cynic](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Diogenes_the_Cynic)\
**Post date:** [August 7, 2008, 8:27pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/brett-favre-go-away/455542/194 "2008-08-07T20:27:36Z")

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[QUOTE=Really Not All That Bright]  
They had already offered him $20 million not to play when they flew down to Mississippi to tell him not to.  
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Your cite doesn’t say that. And what do you mean they flew down to “tell” him not to play. It wasn’t their choice. They flew down to try to pay him off. You’re not seriously going to deny that are you? Even the Packers aren’t denying it.

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**Author:** ![What\_Exit](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/what_exit/32/10652_2.png) [@What\_Exit](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/What_Exit)\
**Post date:** [August 7, 2008, 8:27pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/brett-favre-go-away/455542/195 "2008-08-07T20:27:55Z")

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[QUOTE=DudleyGarrett]  
In other news, John Madden has demanded that all 16 New York Jets regular season games be broadcast on NBC’s Sunday Night Football or he’s going to demand a trade.  
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My God, I never thought of the ramifications of Madden having to go through Favre withdrawal while he is still playing. Do the Jets even have a Sunday Night game scheduled?

Won’t someone please think of poor John Madden, he was going to have a hard enough time when it was just retirement, but this might be too much for him.

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**Author:** ![Really\_Not\_All\_That\_Bright](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/r/e8c25b/32.png) [@Really\_Not\_All\_That\_Bright](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Really_Not_All_That_Bright)\
**Post date:** [August 7, 2008, 8:30pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/brett-favre-go-away/455542/196 "2008-08-07T20:30:35Z")

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[QUOTE=Diogenes the Cynic]  
Your cite doesn’t say that. And what do you mean they flew down to “tell” him not to play. It wasn’t their choice. They flew down to try to pay him off. You’re not seriously going to deny that are you? Even the Packers aren’t denying it.  
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Sure it was their choice. Just as Brett had the right to reretire, they had the option of benching or cutting him.

The Packers aren’t denying it because nobody is accusing them of it. I don’t see you denying that you apply haddock fillets to your forehead at night to keep your skin soft.

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**Author:** ![Diogenes\_the\_Cynic](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/e99b99/32.png) [@Diogenes\_the\_Cynic](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Diogenes_the_Cynic)\
**Post date:** [August 7, 2008, 8:30pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/brett-favre-go-away/455542/197 "2008-08-07T20:30:53Z")

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Don’t they have the ability to switch up the night games now? I have a feeling we might see some Jets games swapped out with some of those Bengels-Dolphins type barn burners.

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**Author:** ![Diogenes\_the\_Cynic](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/e99b99/32.png) [@Diogenes\_the\_Cynic](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Diogenes_the_Cynic)\
**Post date:** [August 7, 2008, 8:34pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/brett-favre-go-away/455542/198 "2008-08-07T20:34:16Z")

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[QUOTE=Really Not All That Bright]  
Sure it was their choice. Just as Brett had the right to reretire, they had the option of benching or cutting him.  
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They had neither option, realistically. Cutting him was exactly what he wanted, by the way.

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> The Packers aren’t denying it because nobody is accusing them of it. I don’t see you denying that you apply haddock fillets to your forehead at night to keep your skin soft.

Have you paid no attention to the news all week. EVERYBODY is reporting that they tried to pay him off, including Favre (who, no matter what you think of him, does _not_ have a history or reputation of dishonesty. Let’s not forget, it was the Packers that tried to lie about the cell phone thing).

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**Author:** ![DudleyGarrett](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/d9b06d/32.png) [@DudleyGarrett](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/DudleyGarrett)\
**Post date:** [August 7, 2008, 8:44pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/brett-favre-go-away/455542/199 "2008-08-07T20:44:01Z")

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[QUOTE=What Exit?]  
My God, I never thought of the ramifications of Madden having to go through Favre withdrawal while he is still playing. Do the Jets even have a Sunday Night game scheduled?

Won’t someone please think of poor John Madden, he was going to have a hard enough time when it was just retirement, but this might be too much for him.  
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It doesn’t look like there’s a Sunday Night game scheduled, but as you know, that’s their flexible schedule.

I think just for John Madden alone we’ll be subjected to a few Sunday Night Favre-fests – even if the Jets are 1-5 and playing the Raiders.

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**Author:** ![Really\_Not\_All\_That\_Bright](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/r/e8c25b/32.png) [@Really\_Not\_All\_That\_Bright](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Really_Not_All_That_Bright)\
**Post date:** [August 7, 2008, 8:54pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/brett-favre-go-away/455542/200 "2008-08-07T20:54:07Z")

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[QUOTE=Diogenes the Cynic]  
…including Favre (who, no matter what you think of him, does _nt_ have a history or reputation of dishonesty. Let’s not forget, it was the Packers that tried to lie about the cell phone thing).  
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_ahem_

[http://www.boston.com/bostonglobe/editorial\_opinion/oped/articles/2008/03/08/the\_man\_inside\_brett\_favre/](http://www.boston.com/bostonglobe/editorial_opinion/oped/articles/2008/03/08/the_man_inside_brett_favre/)

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> Favre came out of rehab to lead the Packers in the 1996 season to a Super Bowl title. But even though he confessed about Vicodin, “ **I ended up telling some serious lies to get more pills** ,” he kept drinking alcohol at a level that nearly destroyed his marriage.

[Here’s](http://packergeeks.wordpress.com/2008/07/17/is-brett-favre-making-st-up/) some more pretty good stuff.

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