# Brett Favre to the Vikings

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**Category:** The Game Room\
**Created:** [May 4, 2009, 8:47pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/brett-favre-to-the-vikings/495333 "2009-05-04T20:47:34Z")\
**Posts on this page:** 20\
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**Author:** ![Cluricaun](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/c/bb73d2/32.png) [@Cluricaun](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Cluricaun)\
**Post date:** [May 5, 2009, 2:45pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/brett-favre-to-the-vikings/495333/21 "2009-05-05T14:45:50Z")

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The Homer in me loves it. For either the Queens or the Bears to get Favre in one of our jerseys and to take him to Lambeau would be worth blowing the season just for the sheer “Nyah nyah” factor. Whatever his salary is it will get paid for in jersey sales alone. We got your golden boy, suck it Packer fans.

But I’m not as much of a Homer as I once was. He’s done, actually he’s past done. Favre is just as addicted to playing football as he was to painkillers and booze. Someone needs to stage an intervention on his behalf and chain him to something for the duration of mini camp so that he’ll just finally fade away.

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**Author:** ![furt](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/f/439d5e/32.png) [@furt](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/furt)\
**Post date:** [May 5, 2009, 3:02pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/brett-favre-to-the-vikings/495333/22 "2009-05-05T15:02:46Z")

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Dammit. Wish someone had taken [my bet](http://boards.straightdope.com/sdmb/showpost.php?p=10813233&postcount=11).

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**Author:** ![astorian](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/a/ad7895/32.png) [@astorian](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/astorian)\
**Post date:** [May 5, 2009, 3:05pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/brett-favre-to-the-vikings/495333/23 "2009-05-05T15:05:28Z")

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I think Favre has reached a point at which, on any given Sunday, he’s EQUALLY capable of throwing for 400 yards and 5 touchdowns, or for 75 yards and 4 picks.

That’s why I wouldn’t take him, if I were running the Vikings. The Vikings are ALREADY a playoff caliber team. Right now, they’d be better off with a steady veteran who’d be content to manage the game, to hand off to Adrian Peterson and not make big mistakes.

They need a Ravens-era Trent Dilfer, in other words.

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**Author:** ![MichaelQReilly](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/df705f/32.png) [@MichaelQReilly](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/MichaelQReilly)\
**Post date:** [May 6, 2009, 1:05am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/brett-favre-to-the-vikings/495333/24 "2009-05-06T01:05:30Z")

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Can’t this douche bag please just go away? Excepting the good year he had two years ago, this guy has been mediocre to bad since about 2003, his off season grand standing every year has become theater of the absurd, and media hacks like Peter King have been so far up this guy’s ass they should be collecting a salary as his PR man. Please Brett, fucking retire and stay retired.

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**Author:** ![dgrdfd](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/eb8c5e/32.png) [@dgrdfd](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/dgrdfd)\
**Post date:** [May 6, 2009, 1:11am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/brett-favre-to-the-vikings/495333/25 "2009-05-06T01:11:21Z")

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> [@MichaelQReilly](#):
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> Can’t this douche bag please just go away?

Come on! He has so much fun out there. Look at him, he’s like a little kid. Oh, wait. He just threw it to a 5’7 WR in quadruple coverage? He’s a gunslinger baby! Take the good with the bad. Look at that cute little shovel pass he just did! No one has ever done that before. Ever! At least, they never did it having as much fun. Because, ya know, this is just a job to everyone else in the league.

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**Author:** ![Diogenes\_the\_Cynic](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/e99b99/32.png) [@Diogenes\_the\_Cynic](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Diogenes_the_Cynic)\
**Post date:** [May 6, 2009, 1:30am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/brett-favre-to-the-vikings/495333/26 "2009-05-06T01:30:13Z")

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[ESPN](http://sports.espn.go.com/nfl/news/story?id=4142857) is reporting that Favre plans to meet with Chilly “later this week.” This thing could happen.

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**Author:** ![Xema](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/x/9de053/32.png) [@Xema](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Xema)\
**Post date:** [May 6, 2009, 5:10am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/brett-favre-to-the-vikings/495333/27 "2009-05-06T05:10:46Z")

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> [@astorian](#):
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> …he’s EQUALLY capable of throwing for 400 yards and 5 touchdowns, or for 75 yards and 4 picks.

I think he could easily average 400 yards & 5 TDs a game. The only issue would be how many of those yards & TDs are achieved by his team, vs. the opponents’.

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**Author:** ![crypto](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/c/b3f665/32.png) [@crypto](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/crypto)\
**Post date:** [May 6, 2009, 5:21am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/brett-favre-to-the-vikings/495333/28 "2009-05-06T05:21:07Z")

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> [@Marley23](#):
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> Year, singular. And what happened to the arm surgery he supposedly maybe needed? He was definitely not healthy at the end of last year. I thought everybody decided that was the reason for his poor performance.

my bad. Thanks for the correction.

Brett did have arm surgery, and retired because of the arm strength issue. But I read somewhere he hired a personal trainer before this story came out so I knew something was up.

Personally, I think he always wanted to play for the Vikings, just so he could stick it to the Packers for pushing him aside. Maybe he’ll get his wish.

Does any Viking fan or Packer fan have any idea of his career stats in the dome in Minnesota? For some reason, I seem to recall it being pretty unimpressive.

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**Author:** ![Marley23](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/45deac/32.png) [@Marley23](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Marley23)\
**Post date:** [May 6, 2009, 11:35am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/brett-favre-to-the-vikings/495333/29 "2009-05-06T11:35:01Z")

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> [@dgrdfd](#):
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> Come on! He has so much fun out there. Look at him, he’s like a little kid. Oh, wait. He just threw it to a 5’7 WR in quadruple coverage? He’s a gunslinger baby! Take the good with the bad. Look at that cute little shovel pass he just did! No one has ever done that before. Ever! At least, they never did it having as much fun. Because, ya know, this is just a job to everyone else in the league.

One wonders if John Madden will make a comeback, too. Somebody has to resurrect the “riverboat gambler” analogy. Which reminds me that a lot of announcers seemed to be mixing up Bret Favre and Bret Maverick toward the end of Favre’s career.

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**Author:** ![Hamlet](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/hamlet/32/2818_2.png) [@Hamlet](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Hamlet)\
**Post date:** [May 6, 2009, 12:21pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/brett-favre-to-the-vikings/495333/30 "2009-05-06T12:21:51Z")

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> [@Stink Fish Pot](#):
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> my bad. Thanks for the correction.
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> Brett did have arm surgery, and retired because of the arm strength issue. But I read somewhere he hired a personal trainer before this story came out so I knew something was up.
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> Personally, I think he always wanted to play for the Vikings, just so he could stick it to the Packers for pushing him aside. Maybe he’ll get his wish.
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> Does any Viking fan or Packer fan have any idea of his career stats in the dome in Minnesota? For some reason, I seem to recall it being pretty unimpressive.

[url=[http://www.dallasnews.com/s/dws/nwsltr/sports/fromthe50/stories/092607dnspofromthe50.109a00f28.html](http://www.dallasnews.com/s/dws/nwsltr/sports/fromthe50/stories/092607dnspofromthe50.109a00f28.html). According to the article, he sucked big time in the 90’s in the dome, but got better at the trun of the century.

Again, according to the article, his career stats at the Metrodome are:

Games: 15  
Record: 5-10  
Attempts: 505  
Completions: 319  
Comp %: 63.1  
Yards: 3,448  
TD: 22  
INT: 18  
Passer Rating: 82.8

Aside from the pathetic record, the stats aren’t horrible. But they aren’t, by any stretch, what I would call good.

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**Author:** ![Hamlet](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/hamlet/32/2818_2.png) [@Hamlet](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Hamlet)\
**Post date:** [May 6, 2009, 12:32pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/brett-favre-to-the-vikings/495333/31 "2009-05-06T12:32:04Z")

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[Fixed Link](http://www.dallasnews.com/s/dws/nwsltr/sports/fromthe50/stories/092607dnspofromthe50.109a00f28.html)

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**Author:** ![Really\_Not\_All\_That\_Bright](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/r/e8c25b/32.png) [@Really\_Not\_All\_That\_Bright](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Really_Not_All_That_Bright)\
**Post date:** [May 6, 2009, 1:30pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/brett-favre-to-the-vikings/495333/32 "2009-05-06T13:30:19Z")

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> [@Marley23](#):
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> One wonders if John Madden will make a comeback, too. Somebody has to resurrect the “riverboat gambler” analogy. Which reminds me that a lot of announcers seemed to be mixing up Bret Favre and Bret Maverick toward the end of Favre’s career.

Well, one’s a lying, conniving reckless son of a bitch, and the other plays cards.

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**Author:** ![MichaelQReilly](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/df705f/32.png) [@MichaelQReilly](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/MichaelQReilly)\
**Post date:** [May 6, 2009, 3:00pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/brett-favre-to-the-vikings/495333/33 "2009-05-06T15:00:15Z")

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> [@dgrdfd](#):
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> Come on! He has so much fun out there. Look at him, he’s like a little kid. Oh, wait. He just threw it to a 5’7 WR in quadruple coverage? He’s a gunslinger baby! Take the good with the bad. Look at that cute little shovel pass he just did! No one has ever done that before. Ever! At least, they never did it having as much fun. Because, ya know, this is just a job to everyone else in the league.

Well done sir, well done.

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**Author:** ![Captain\_Lance\_Murdoch](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/c/47e85d/32.png) [@Captain\_Lance\_Murdoch](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Captain_Lance_Murdoch)\
**Post date:** [May 6, 2009, 5:11pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/brett-favre-to-the-vikings/495333/34 "2009-05-06T17:11:16Z")

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Fare was overrated when he was in his prime.

The Vikings need someone who can manage the game and create a credible passing threat.

Favre is a gunslinger, so scratch the first one. He could take the heat off Peterson IF his arm is healthy and stays healthy. A mighty big “if.”

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**Author:** ![Really\_Not\_All\_That\_Bright](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/r/e8c25b/32.png) [@Really\_Not\_All\_That\_Bright](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Really_Not_All_That_Bright)\
**Post date:** [May 6, 2009, 5:12pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/brett-favre-to-the-vikings/495333/35 "2009-05-06T17:12:24Z")

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Heard on _The Herd with Colin Cowherd_ today (paraphrased):

“There are five seasons in America. Summer, autumn, winter, spring and Favre. Last Tuesday was the first day of Favre 2009.”

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**Author:** ![astorian](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/a/ad7895/32.png) [@astorian](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/astorian)\
**Post date:** [May 7, 2009, 5:03am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/brett-favre-to-the-vikings/495333/36 "2009-05-07T05:03:10Z")

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I was never a huge Favre fan, even when he WAS one of the best quarterbacks in the game.

Regardless, if the man still has the itch to play, I can’t fault him for that. And there certainly aren’t 32 better quarterbacks in the NFL, so he’s certainly good enough to be a starter somewhere.

I just don’t see him as an elite quarterback any more, and I can’t justify treating him or paying him as if he still were one.

If the Vikings have concluded that Favre is better than the guys they have, well, I can see that. But I CAN’T see Favre as the magical missing ingredient that will take the Vikings to the Super Bowl.

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**Author:** ![flickster](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/f/7bcc69/32.png) [@flickster](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/flickster)\
**Post date:** [May 7, 2009, 5:19am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/brett-favre-to-the-vikings/495333/37 "2009-05-07T05:19:06Z")

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> [@Diogenes\_the\_Cynic](#):
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> As a Vikings fan, I’d be happy to take him. I’d love to see him go back to Lambeau wearimg purple. The Vikes are really only a quarterback away from being serious contenders. Favre wouldn’t have to be great, he would just have to be a general on the field and make defenses pay for selling out to stop Adrian Peterson all the time.

Is this the same Dio that has for years gone into a mouth foaming rage at the very mention of Bret Favre, or is my memory deceiving me?

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**Author:** ![Gangster\_Octopus](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/g/a8b319/32.png) [@Gangster\_Octopus](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Gangster_Octopus)\
**Post date:** [May 7, 2009, 8:26pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/brett-favre-to-the-vikings/495333/38 "2009-05-07T20:26:17Z")

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From Yahoo! [Vikings Won’t Sign Favre](http://sports.yahoo.com/nfl/news;_ylt=An0sR9fem5hRq7K6Sfqz9wE5nYcB?slug=ys-favre050709&prov=yhoo&type=lgns)

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> The Minnesota Vikings will not sign free-agent quarterback Brett Favre(notes), a source close to the team told Yahoo! Sports on Thursday.
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> The source said Favre told Vikings coach Brad Childress that he wanted to remain retired in a phone call that took place sometime in the last day. Favre is expected to publicly explain his decision soon.

So glad that’s over with. I am sure we will never hear another thing about Favre unretiring ever again.

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**Author:** ![N9IWP](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/n9iwp/32/3154_2.png) [@N9IWP](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/N9IWP)\
**Post date:** [May 7, 2009, 8:54pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/brett-favre-to-the-vikings/495333/39 "2009-05-07T20:54:24Z")

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> [@Gangster\_Octopus](#):
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> So glad that’s over with. I am sure we will never hear another thing about Favre unretiring ever again.

Snrrrrk! If I was drinking something you would owe me a new nose 😃

Brian

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**Author:** ![Diogenes\_the\_Cynic](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/e99b99/32.png) [@Diogenes\_the\_Cynic](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Diogenes_the_Cynic)\
**Post date:** [May 7, 2009, 9:06pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/brett-favre-to-the-vikings/495333/40 "2009-05-07T21:06:29Z")

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It’s still early. Favre could still change his mind two or three more times before training camp.

In all seriousness, on a local radio show here, they were saying the rumor is that the Vikings wanted Favre to get surgery on his arm, and Favre didn’t want to do it.

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