# Brett Favre to the Vikings **URL:** \ **Category:** The Game Room\ **Created:** [May 4, 2009, 8:47pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/brett-favre-to-the-vikings/495333 "2009-05-04T20:47:34Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 20\ **Page:** 4
**Author:** ![Really\_Not\_All\_That\_Bright](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/r/e8c25b/32.png) [@Really\_Not\_All\_That\_Bright](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Really_Not_All_That_Bright)\ **Post date:** [July 29, 2009, 3:00pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/brett-favre-to-the-vikings/495333/61 "2009-07-29T15:00:16Z")
Now is the winter of our\* discontent made glorious summer by this son of Mississippi finally fucking off. \*that is, those of us who like football and watch ESPN and get stabby every time Ed Werder breaks into to tell us that The Packera Donna/Interception Junction/Viggo Mortensen Stubble Double/Brettfavrebrettfavrebrettfave is thinking about joining the Buccaneers/Vikings/Jets/circus. ETA: I would have burned my jersey and tickets in front of One Buc Place if we had traded for him last year. ---
**Author:** ![Nars\_Glinley](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/nars_glinley/32/8177_2.png) [@Nars\_Glinley](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Nars_Glinley)\ **Post date:** [July 29, 2009, 3:00pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/brett-favre-to-the-vikings/495333/62 "2009-07-29T15:00:39Z")
> [@Sitnam](#): > > Bummer, I was looking forward to Hawk or Kampman laying a career ending sack on the self important bastard. > > Now I’ll have to listen to a year of fans arguing that a Super Bowl was guaranteed if Favre would have played. Sagitavaris Rosenackson, welcome to a team that hates you. It’s not that we hate them, it’s just that we all know that they suck. ---
**Author:** ![Diogenes\_the\_Cynic](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/e99b99/32.png) [@Diogenes\_the\_Cynic](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Diogenes_the_Cynic)\ **Post date:** [July 29, 2009, 3:11pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/brett-favre-to-the-vikings/495333/63 "2009-07-29T15:11:53Z")
I don’t know how Favre would have done over a whole season, but I think he would have thrown like 9 touchdowns against the Packers at Lambeau. Not only because he hates them and would have summoned everything he had for that game, but because (and I know Packer fans don’t want to admit this) the Packers SUCK without him. What did they win, 4 games last year? I hope one of our suck-ass QB’s can emerge enough to be at least average and take some heat off Adrian Peterson, but even last year we still went 10-6 and made the playoffs. We still have a good defense, we still have the best RB in the NFL and we got a little better at WR, so I think we’ll be ok this year. I admit to feeling a bit let down. It’s hard to feel good about _any_ of our quarterbacks. This must be what it’s felt like to be a Bears fan for like the last 20 years. ---
**Author:** ![Really\_Not\_All\_That\_Bright](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/r/e8c25b/32.png) [@Really\_Not\_All\_That\_Bright](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Really_Not_All_That_Bright)\ **Post date:** [July 29, 2009, 3:25pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/brett-favre-to-the-vikings/495333/64 "2009-07-29T15:25:18Z")
> [@Diogenes\_the\_Cynic](#): > > I don’t know how Favre would have done over a whole season, but I think he would have thrown like 9 touchdowns against the Packers at Lambeau. Not only because he hates them and would have summoned everything he had for that game, but because (and I know Packer fans don’t want to admit this) the Packers SUCK without him. What did they win, 4 games last year? The Packers suck, but it’s got nothing to do with him. Aaron Rodgers threw for 4,000 yards and 28 touchdowns last year, against only 13 picks, and picked up another 200 yards and 4 TDs on the ground. Brett Favre’s numbers in his “comeback” season of 2007 were pretty much the same - 4,155 yards, 28 scores, 15 picks (with 29 rushing yards). I’d say the extra hundred passing yards are more than offset by the two extra interceptions. If you count the rushing production, it’s clear that Rodgers is Favre’s equal at this point, and probably his superior. Hey may never throw for ~40 scores as Favre did a couple of times, but then again Favre certainly won’t do that again either. The Packers were 8th in total offense and 5th in scoring offense last year. I doubt Favre could have done much to help unless he was lined up at safaety… ETA: I don’t know why you’re so unhappy about your quarterbacks. Sage Rosenfels _is_ Brett Favre, only without the constant ass-licking from the media. 15 scores and 12 picks in roughly half a season’s work for the Texans in 2007. ---
**Author:** ![Hal\_Briston](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/h/a9a28c/32.png) [@Hal\_Briston](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Hal_Briston)\ **Post date:** [July 29, 2009, 3:28pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/brett-favre-to-the-vikings/495333/65 "2009-07-29T15:28:30Z")
[PFT](http://profootballtalk.nbcsports.com/2009/07/29/will-vikings-hear-from-favre-in-two-weeks/) is keeping hope alive. > [@](#): > > Amid mounting evidence that Brett Favre is interested in playing football if he can find a way to shorten the season as it applies to him, there are some in the Vikings organization who are convinced that Favre will attempt to join the team after the first two weeks of training camp. > > And that coach Brad Childress will welcome him with open arms. ---
**Author:** ![Diogenes\_the\_Cynic](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/e99b99/32.png) [@Diogenes\_the\_Cynic](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Diogenes_the_Cynic)\ **Post date:** [July 29, 2009, 3:28pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/brett-favre-to-the-vikings/495333/66 "2009-07-29T15:28:36Z")
Rodgers had a lot of passing yards because he was playing from behind all the time. You measure success in W’s, not in passing yards, especially not when a lot of those yards are coming in garbage time against second team defenses. ---
**Author:** ![Really\_Not\_All\_That\_Bright](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/r/e8c25b/32.png) [@Really\_Not\_All\_That\_Bright](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Really_Not_All_That_Bright)\ **Post date:** [July 29, 2009, 3:54pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/brett-favre-to-the-vikings/495333/67 "2009-07-29T15:54:16Z")
> [@Diogenes\_the\_Cynic](#): > > Rodgers had a lot of passing yards because he was playing from behind all the time. You measure success in W’s, not in passing yards, especially not when a lot of those yards are coming in garbage time against second team defenses. So what? Rodgers had to contend with defenses who knew the Packers needed to throw the ball, _and still threw fewer interceptions_. Nobody puts in their “second team defense” in closely contested regular season games, and the Packers’ losses were nearly all closely contested; of their 10 losses, 8 were by 4 or fewer points. ---
**Author:** ![garygnu](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/garygnu/32/2924_2.png) [@garygnu](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/garygnu)\ **Post date:** [July 29, 2009, 4:46pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/brett-favre-to-the-vikings/495333/68 "2009-07-29T16:46:02Z")
All this retirement announcement really does is make next off-season a will-he-or-won’t-he news cycle about a comeback. ---
**Author:** ![Really\_Not\_All\_That\_Bright](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/r/e8c25b/32.png) [@Really\_Not\_All\_That\_Bright](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Really_Not_All_That_Bright)\ **Post date:** [July 29, 2009, 4:47pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/brett-favre-to-the-vikings/495333/69 "2009-07-29T16:47:48Z")
And the whole of _this_ regular season. We should nuke him from orbit. It’s the only way to be sure. ---
**Author:** ![N9IWP](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/n9iwp/32/3154_2.png) [@N9IWP](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/N9IWP)\ **Post date:** [July 29, 2009, 5:38pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/brett-favre-to-the-vikings/495333/70 "2009-07-29T17:38:00Z")
I’m not counting him retired until after the Superbowl in 2010. Brian ---
**Author:** ![Marley23](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/45deac/32.png) [@Marley23](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Marley23)\ **Post date:** [July 29, 2009, 5:42pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/brett-favre-to-the-vikings/495333/71 "2009-07-29T17:42:03Z")
> [@Really\_Not\_All\_That\_Bright](#): > > \*that is, those of us who like football and watch ESPN and get stabby every time Ed Werder breaks into to tell us that The Packera Donna/Interception Junction/Viggo Mortensen Stubble Double/Brettfavrebrettfavrebrettfave is thinking about joining the Buccaneers/Vikings/Jets/circus. Mark Buehrle was more than halfway to pitching _a second consecutive perfect game last night_ and ESPNews was not only covering Favre, they were reporting his hours-old retirement announcement as “breaking news.” ---
**Author:** ![satoridt](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/6a8cbe/32.png) [@satoridt](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/satoridt)\ **Post date:** [July 29, 2009, 6:14pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/brett-favre-to-the-vikings/495333/72 "2009-07-29T18:14:12Z")
> [@Marley23](#): > > Mark Buehrle was more than halfway to pitching _a second consecutive perfect game last night_ and ESPNews was not only covering Favre, they were reporting his hours-old retirement announcement as “breaking news.” Which is funny because both stories centered on Minnesota getting the worst of it. Fly over country indeed! ---
**Author:** ![SenorBeef](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/senorbeef/32/2220_2.png) [@SenorBeef](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/SenorBeef)\ **Post date:** [July 29, 2009, 8:43pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/brett-favre-to-the-vikings/495333/73 "2009-07-29T20:43:30Z")
This drama is not over yet. ---
**Author:** ![Hal\_Briston](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/h/a9a28c/32.png) [@Hal\_Briston](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Hal_Briston)\ **Post date:** [July 29, 2009, 8:56pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/brett-favre-to-the-vikings/495333/74 "2009-07-29T20:56:51Z")
[Favre, Cook leave door open for return](http://profootballtalk.nbcsports.com/2009/07/29/favre-cook-leave-door-open-for-return/) > [@](#): > > [Favre and his agent Bus] Cook appeared on Sportscenter Wednesday and would not rule out Favre possibly returning to play for the Vikings at some point this season. It’s all starting to make sense now – _Favre never left the Packers_. This entire thing has just been a ploy to undermine the Vikings. The whole Jets thing? That was just setting the stage. The man is a fucking evil genius, I tell you… ---
**Author:** ![wolfman](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/w/a8b319/32.png) [@wolfman](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/wolfman)\ **Post date:** [July 29, 2009, 9:24pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/brett-favre-to-the-vikings/495333/75 "2009-07-29T21:24:16Z")
Well this last round of publicity for He-who-shall-not-be-reported-on will only serve to feed his ego by giving him more mentions. I truly believe he announced he isn’t coming back only to get idiots to beg him to come back, and is now more likely than ever to sabotage someones season. ---
**Author:** ![Gangster\_Octopus](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/g/a8b319/32.png) [@Gangster\_Octopus](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Gangster_Octopus)\ **Post date:** [July 30, 2009, 6:44pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/brett-favre-to-the-vikings/495333/76 "2009-07-30T18:44:01Z")
> [@Diogenes\_the\_Cynic](#): > > What did they win, 4 games last year? > > I hope one of our suck-ass QB’s can emerge enough to be at least average and take some heat off Adrian Peterson, but even last year we still went 10-6 and made the playoffs. We still have a good defense, we still have the best RB in the NFL and we got a little better at WR, so I think we’ll be ok this year. i was going to corect you, the Packers technically won 6 games…but 2 were against Detroit, so I think 4 makes sense. Of course that would mean we have to revise the Vikings record to 8-6. But the Packers lost a lot of very close games. There were more than a few games where Rodgers had the lead in the Fourth quarter only to have the defense lose it. Rodgers is an excellent QB,and to write him off after one season where he played very well is idiotic. ---
**Author:** ![Really\_Not\_All\_That\_Bright](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/r/e8c25b/32.png) [@Really\_Not\_All\_That\_Bright](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Really_Not_All_That_Bright)\ **Post date:** [August 3, 2009, 1:10pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/brett-favre-to-the-vikings/495333/78 "2009-08-03T13:10:34Z")
Reported as “spammer or crazy person”. ---
**Author:** ![Nars\_Glinley](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/nars_glinley/32/8177_2.png) [@Nars\_Glinley](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Nars_Glinley)\ **Post date:** [August 3, 2009, 1:33pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/brett-favre-to-the-vikings/495333/79 "2009-08-03T13:33:18Z")
> [@Really\_Not\_All\_That\_Bright](#): > > Reported as “spammer or crazy person”. Can’t they be both? ---
**Author:** ![garygnu](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/garygnu/32/2924_2.png) [@garygnu](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/garygnu)\ **Post date:** [August 18, 2009, 3:22pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/brett-favre-to-the-vikings/495333/80 "2009-08-18T15:22:34Z")
This is [the story that never ends](http://sports.yahoo.com/nfl/news;_ylt=AsSFfVHZnp0ZULZ_GQxjkNM5nYcB?slug=jc-favrevikescontract081809&prov=yhoo&type=lgns), yes it goes on and on my friend. Some people started speculating, not knowing what it was, and they’ll continue talking about him forever just because… ---
**Author:** ![Marley23](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/45deac/32.png) [@Marley23](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Marley23)\ **Post date:** [August 18, 2009, 3:32pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/brett-favre-to-the-vikings/495333/81 "2009-08-18T15:32:00Z")
> [@KRM](#): > > Can’t they be both? … like the late Earl Warren? 😃 I’m thinking it’s time ESPN, or someone with basic decency - so maybe NOT ESPN - did a Favre blackout. Just refuse to cover him for a week, or maybe more. [Previous page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/brett-favre-to-the-vikings/495333.md?page=3) [Next page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/brett-favre-to-the-vikings/495333.md?page=5)