# Brett Favre

**URL:** <https://boards.straightdope.com/t/brett-favre/137489>\
**Category:** Factual Questions\
**Created:** [November 19, 2002, 8:01am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/brett-favre/137489 "2002-11-19T08:01:55Z")\
**Posts on this page:** 19\
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**Author:** ![Motog](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/85e7bf/32.png) [@Motog](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Motog)\
**Post date:** [November 20, 2002, 6:10am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/brett-favre/137489/21 "2002-11-20T06:10:07Z")

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> \*Originally posted by racosun \*  
> \*\*So would you pronounce Dmitre as “Dimeetree” or “Dmeter”? \*\*

I don’t know, I’m not familiar with the word “Dmitre” and couldn’t find it in my dictionary. Is it an English word?

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**Author:** ![racosun](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/r/bc79bd/32.png) [@racosun](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/racosun)\
**Post date:** [November 20, 2002, 6:19am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/brett-favre/137489/22 "2002-11-20T06:19:08Z")

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The Detroit Tigers baseball team has a firstbasemen/DH named Dmitre Young.

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**Author:** ![plnnr](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/p/7ea924/32.png) [@plnnr](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/plnnr)\
**Post date:** [November 20, 2002, 3:09pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/brett-favre/137489/23 "2002-11-20T15:09:11Z")

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Tailieferro, a perfectly good name, is pronounced “Tolliver” here in the South.

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**Author:** ![lissener](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/lissener/32/6139_2.png) [@lissener](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/lissener)\
**Post date:** [November 20, 2002, 4:38pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/brett-favre/137489/24 "2002-11-20T16:38:22Z")

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> \*Originally posted by racosun \*  
> \*\*The Detroit Tigers baseball team has a firstbasemen/DH named Dmitre Young. \*\*

Again, it’s not subject to rules. However a standard Brit, unfamiliar with the name, would pronounce it, its _correct_ pronunciation would be whatever Mr. Young _says_ it is.

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**Author:** ![Threadkiller](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/t/aca169/32.png) [@Threadkiller](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Threadkiller)\
**Post date:** [November 20, 2002, 5:11pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/brett-favre/137489/25 "2002-11-20T17:11:55Z")

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My personal favorite: **Mike Krzyzewski**

Pronounced _sha-shef-ski_

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**Author:** ![Joe\_Mahma](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/j/5daacb/32.png) [@Joe\_Mahma](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Joe_Mahma)\
**Post date:** [November 20, 2002, 7:07pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/brett-favre/137489/26 "2002-11-20T19:07:39Z")

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> \*Originally posted by lissener \*  
> \*\*Again, it’s not subject to rules. However a standard Brit, unfamiliar with the name, would pronounce it, its _correct_ pronunciation would be whatever Mr. Young _says_ it is. \*\*

That doesn’t mean anybody has to agree with him, or pronounce it his way.

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**Author:** ![Motog](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/85e7bf/32.png) [@Motog](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Motog)\
**Post date:** [November 20, 2002, 10:09pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/brett-favre/137489/27 "2002-11-20T22:09:42Z")

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> \*Originally posted by racosun \*  
> \*\*The Detroit Tigers baseball team has a firstbasemen/DH named Dmitre Young. \*\*

I’m from Australia. I’ve never heard of the Detroit Tigers baseball team before or Mr Young, but I’d pronounce it however Mr Young wanted it pronounced. That would simply be common courtesy.

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**Author:** ![nth](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/n/58956e/32.png) [@nth](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/nth)\
**Post date:** [November 20, 2002, 10:17pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/brett-favre/137489/28 "2002-11-20T22:17:10Z")

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Joe Mahma:  
“That doesn’t mean anybody has to agree with him, or pronounce it his way”

Respect my friend…

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**Author:** ![Hari\_Seldon](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/hari_seldon/32/5173_2.png) [@Hari\_Seldon](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Hari_Seldon)\
**Post date:** [November 20, 2002, 10:23pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/brett-favre/137489/29 "2002-11-20T22:23:37Z")

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I absolutely agree that it is common courtesy to pronounce a name the way its owner does.

I still remember that when Julian Javier first came up with the Cards in the early fifties (when Stan Musial was still playing, that is why his son is Stan), he was one of the very first Spanish language baseball players and the announcer obviously couldn’t believe the pronunciation he was given (roughly Hoolian Havier) but he used it anyway, since that is what he was told and he was a professional announcer.

How the hell do you get nucular out of nuclear?

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**Author:** ![Colibri](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/colibri/32/1841_2.png) [@Colibri](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Colibri)\
**Post date:** [November 20, 2002, 10:26pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/brett-favre/137489/30 "2002-11-20T22:26:06Z")

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> \*Originally posted by RealityChuck \*  
> \*\*Proper nouns are especially prone to “illogical” pronuciations. Try Featherstonehaugh (usually pronounced “fan-shaw”) or Worcester, MA (“Wooster”) or Lefebvre (often pronounced “Le-Fay”), or Boisclaire (“Bo-clare”). \*\*

My favorite of these is Cholmondeley, pronounced “Chumley.”

There was a young man named Colquhoun  
Who kept as a pet a babuhoun.  
His mother said, “Cholmondeley,  
“I don’t think it’s quite colmondeley  
“To feed your babuhoun with a spuhoun.”

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**Author:** ![racosun](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/r/bc79bd/32.png) [@racosun](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/racosun)\
**Post date:** [November 20, 2002, 11:34pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/brett-favre/137489/31 "2002-11-20T23:34:37Z")

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> \*Originally posted by Threadkiller \*  
> \*\*My personal favorite: **Mike Krzyzewski**
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> Pronounced _sha-shef-ski_ \*\*

I love that one myself!! Although I hate the Duke Blue Devils, pronounced “We pay our players.”

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**Author:** ![snac](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/90db22/32.png) [@snac](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/snac)\
**Post date:** [November 21, 2002, 12:54am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/brett-favre/137489/32 "2002-11-21T00:54:13Z")

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Minor correction–Mr. Young of the Tigers (Tigres?) spells his name Dmitri, with an I, not Dmitre.

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**Author:** ![racosun](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/r/bc79bd/32.png) [@racosun](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/racosun)\
**Post date:** [November 21, 2002, 7:33am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/brett-favre/137489/33 "2002-11-21T07:33:20Z")

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> \*Originally posted by snac \*  
> \*\*Minor correction–Mr. Young of the Tigers (Tigres?) spells his name Dmitri, with an I, not Dmitre. \*\*

I know, I just wanted to bring a little attention to my favorite sports team. 🙂

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**Author:** ![lissener](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/lissener/32/6139_2.png) [@lissener](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/lissener)\
**Post date:** [November 25, 2002, 6:48pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/brett-favre/137489/34 "2002-11-25T18:48:02Z")

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> \*Originally posted by Joe Mahma \*  
> \*\*That doesn’t mean anybody has to agree with him, or pronounce it his way. \*\*

Um, yes it does. What more basic right does a human have, than to determine what his or her name is? Why should it be up to _you_ to be the final arbiter on how _I_ pronounce _my own name_?

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**Author:** ![Joe\_Mahma](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/j/5daacb/32.png) [@Joe\_Mahma](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Joe_Mahma)\
**Post date:** [November 25, 2002, 7:12pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/brett-favre/137489/35 "2002-11-25T19:12:08Z")

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> \*Originally posted by lissener \*  
> \*\*Um, yes it does. What more basic right does a human have, than to determine what his or her name is? Why should it be up to _you_ to be the final arbiter on how _I_ pronounce _my own name_? \*\*

I guess you’re right. I retract my previous bullheaded statement.

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**Author:** ![Bob55](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/b/e9c0ed/32.png) [@Bob55](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Bob55)\
**Post date:** [November 25, 2002, 8:13pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/brett-favre/137489/36 "2002-11-25T20:13:59Z")

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> \*Originally posted by Motog \*  
> \*\*In many (if not most) English speaking countries, notably **England** , the letters “re” at the end of word is almost always pronounced “er”. In fact, in much of the english-speaking world, words that you Merkins spell ‘center’ and ‘meter’ are spelt ‘centre’ and ‘metre’, while still being pronounced the same way. \*\*

In support of this, I know someone named Havre and he pronounces it HAV-ER. Following this model Favre should be pronounced FAV-ER.

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**Author:** ![XJETGIRLX](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/x/9fc29f/32.png) [@XJETGIRLX](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/XJETGIRLX)\
**Post date:** [November 25, 2002, 8:15pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/brett-favre/137489/37 "2002-11-25T20:15:38Z")

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Just curious…are there any cases of people within the same family pronouncing their (same) last name differently?

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**Author:** ![Walloon](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/w/fbc32d/32.png) [@Walloon](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Walloon)\
**Post date:** [November 25, 2002, 8:21pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/brett-favre/137489/38 "2002-11-25T20:21:49Z")

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My mother’s maiden name is “Nienaber”, which she pronounces the German way, _NEE-nob-er_, the way her father pronouced it. But my mother’s twin brother and her sister pronounce it _NEE-nay-ber_. When I would ask my uncle and aunt why they say _NEE-nay-ber_, they would just shrug and say, “Or NEE-nob-er, whatever.”

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**Author:** ![Walloon](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/w/fbc32d/32.png) [@Walloon](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Walloon)\
**Post date:** [November 25, 2002, 8:27pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/brett-favre/137489/39 "2002-11-25T20:27:50Z")

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Another family that comes to mind is the well-known Roosevelt family of New York. One branch pronounces the name ROOS-e-velt, while the other branch pronounces it ROZE-e-velt.

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