# Brexit poll
**URL:** https://boards.straightdope.com/t/brexit-poll/746547
**Category:** Politics & Elections
**Created:** [February 19, 2016, 1:17pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/brexit-poll/746547 "2016-02-19T13:17:15Z")
**Posts on this page:** 20
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### Author:  [@Mr\_Shine](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Mr_Shine)
#### Post date: [February 19, 2016, 1:17pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/brexit-poll/746547/1 "2016-02-19T13:17:15Z")
I’m not looking for a debate here. If one starts in this thread I won’t be a major participant. I’m just curious where the British dopers lie on this issue at this stage. Obviously the exact date we’ll be asked the question, and the exact terms of what we’ll be asked about are still up in the air but based on your best guess of how it will turn out, what is your gut answer?
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### Author:  [@panache45](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/panache45)
#### Post date: [February 19, 2016, 10:03pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/brexit-poll/746547/2 "2016-02-19T22:03:08Z")
No pie? I want pie!
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### Author:  [@Chronos](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Chronos)
#### Post date: [February 20, 2016, 4:43am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/brexit-poll/746547/3 "2016-02-20T04:43:50Z")
I’m not a Brit, but I hope they stay. It seems to me that if there is a path to world peace, then things like the European Union are among the early steps on that path.
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### Author:  [@PastTense](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/PastTense)
#### Post date: [February 20, 2016, 5:19am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/brexit-poll/746547/4 "2016-02-20T05:19:49Z")
I don’t understand the last option: “I’m not British but want easy access to the poll.”
Anyone can view the Poll results; what do these people get?
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### Author:  [@Mr\_Shine](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Mr_Shine)
#### Post date: [February 20, 2016, 6:40am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/brexit-poll/746547/5 "2016-02-20T06:40:31Z")
> [@PastTense](#):
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> I don’t understand the last option: “I’m not British but want easy access to the poll.”
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> Anyone can view the Poll results; what do these people get?
Once you’ve voted in a poll it will then stay inline on the thread and will be there immediately should you open the thread again. Clicking view poll results creates a new window, and has to be done again should you wish to see the poll later. A minor annoyance, but one I like to give an option to avoid if all the real options don’t cover everybody.
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### Author:  [@LSLGuy](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/LSLGuy)
#### Post date: [February 20, 2016, 2:54pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/brexit-poll/746547/6 "2016-02-20T14:54:36Z")
Sadly I think all the non-USAians have abandoned this forum until the noise dies down in, oh, late 2017 or something.
Put me down as spake **Chronos** : This USAian thinks it better for the world that Britain stays in. And IMO better for Britain too. I say that as somebody who follows British & EU affairs pretty closely.
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### Author:  [@jjimm](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/jjimm)
#### Post date: [February 20, 2016, 3:56pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/brexit-poll/746547/7 "2016-02-20T15:56:50Z")
I agree the EU needs serious reform.
Living in a non-British EU country and seeing what a hash they make of applying extant EU regulations while cheering for more makes me antsy. There’s bad faith: the UK honours its treaties and suffers, while many other EU countries pay lip service to EU regulations while doing their own thing.
And the euro is a disaster.
But I still don’t think we’ll be better out of it.
The hand-waving of exit supporters (I despise ‘Brexit’ as a term) that the UK will be able to carve its own trade agreements with people they just insulted is naive. Better to try to push for reform from inside the tent. It’s a cock-up but better than the alternative.
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### Author:  [@amanset](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/amanset)
#### Post date: [February 20, 2016, 5:28pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/brexit-poll/746547/8 "2016-02-20T17:28:43Z")
As always, I seem to end up as an outlier.
I am British and in all reality won’t have a vote, despite it probably affecting me more than most Brits. Basically, I’ve lived in another EU country for too long and hence have to move back to get my right to vote back (you lose it after fifteen years out of the country).
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### Author:  [@jjimm](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/jjimm)
#### Post date: [February 20, 2016, 6:04pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/brexit-poll/746547/9 "2016-02-20T18:04:16Z")
> [@amanset](#):
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> I’ve lived in another EU country for too long and hence have to move back to get my right to vote back (you lose it after fifteen years out of the country).
Presumably you qualify for citizenship of your host country by now (Sweden IIRC), don’t you?
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### Author:  [@John\_Mace](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/John_Mace)
#### Post date: [February 20, 2016, 6:20pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/brexit-poll/746547/10 "2016-02-20T18:20:07Z")
Dear Britain: Stay in the EU, but DO NOT give up the Pound.
Best regards,
Your American cousin
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### Author:  [@Quartz](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Quartz)
#### Post date: [February 20, 2016, 6:27pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/brexit-poll/746547/11 "2016-02-20T18:27:42Z")
> [@LSLGuy](#):
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> Sadly I think all the non-USAians have abandoned this forum until the noise dies down in, oh, late 2017 or something.
Negotiations between Cameron and the EU have only just finished. What Cameron [has got](http://www.theguardian.com/world/live/2016/feb/19/eu-summit-all-night-negotiations-deal-cameron-live) will seem very poor to Brexit fans:
> [@Guardian](#):
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> Leaders of the other 27 member nations agreed to a deal that will see:
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> a seven-year term for the emergency brake to restrict EU migrants in the UK claiming in-work benefits.
> child benefit payments indexed to the cost of living for children living outside the UK for all new arrivals to the UK, extending to all workers from 1 January 2020.
> any single non-eurozone country able to force a debate among EU leaders about ‘problem’ eurozone laws – though they will not have a veto.
> an unequivocal opt-out stating that EU treaty “references to ever-closer union do not apply to the United Kingdom”.
The devil will be in the detail, of course. So asking us for an opinion right now is a little premature.
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### Author:  [@Ryan\_Liam](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Ryan_Liam)
#### Post date: [February 21, 2016, 1:49am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/brexit-poll/746547/12 "2016-02-21T01:49:00Z")
I’m voting to leave, no doubt it would trigger a second referendum in Scotland, but if that’s the price to pay for a more independent rUK, then so be it.
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### Author:  [@coremelt](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/coremelt)
#### Post date: [February 21, 2016, 4:01am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/brexit-poll/746547/13 "2016-02-21T04:01:57Z")
I am British (And Australian, dual citizen). I will vote to stay. As others have said the UK can do far more by pushing for reform of the EU inside it than they can outside it. Also, the EU is too important to let fail or fall apart. Other communities of nations are planning similar integration, eg ASEAN eventually plans a currency union and open borders. This is a good trend and it should continue.
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### Author:  [@Quartz](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Quartz)
#### Post date: [February 21, 2016, 9:28am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/brexit-poll/746547/14 "2016-02-21T09:28:24Z")
> [@Ryan\_Liam](#):
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> I’m voting to leave, no doubt it would trigger a second referendum in Scotland
It won’t. The possibility of the UK exiting the EU was well known at the time. We voted in full knowledge of the fact.
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### Author:  [@Ryan\_Liam](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Ryan_Liam)
#### Post date: [February 21, 2016, 8:17pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/brexit-poll/746547/15 "2016-02-21T20:17:39Z")
> [@Quartz](#):
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> It won’t. The possibility of the UK exiting the EU was well known at the time. We voted in full knowledge of the fact.
I’m stating that if the UK voted to leave the EU, it almost definitely will trigger a second referendum for the Scots to have independence and to remain in the EU.
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> I am British (And Australian, dual citizen). I will vote to stay. As others have said the UK can do far more by pushing for reform of the EU inside it than they can outside it. Also, the EU is too important to let fail or fall apart. Other communities of nations are planning similar integration, eg ASEAN eventually plans a currency union and open borders. This is a good trend and it should continue.
But I bet alot of those countries have better border controls.
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### Author:  [@Quartz](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Quartz)
#### Post date: [February 21, 2016, 9:18pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/brexit-poll/746547/16 "2016-02-21T21:18:38Z")
> [@Ryan\_Liam](#):
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> I’m stating that if the UK voted to leave the EU, it almost definitely will trigger a second referendum for the Scots to have independence and to remain in the EU.
However much Sturgeon et al may press for one, I do not think it would happen. If the UK votes to leave the EU then Cameron’s out and his likely replacements aren’t the idiots he is.
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### Author:  [@Ryan\_Liam](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Ryan_Liam)
#### Post date: [February 21, 2016, 9:28pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/brexit-poll/746547/17 "2016-02-21T21:28:49Z")
I disagree, the prospect of an exit from the EU means that extenuating circumstances have come into play, in which there is a legitimate reason for a 2nd referendum, and this time they will leave.
> **[EU summit: SNP warns Cameron as talks continue](https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-scotland-scotland-politics-35610623)**
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> David Cameron is playing a high stakes game in Brussels that risks leaving Scots "at the exit door of the EU", Scotland's external affairs secretary says.
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### Author:  [@Quartz](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Quartz)
#### Post date: [February 21, 2016, 10:06pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/brexit-poll/746547/18 "2016-02-21T22:06:50Z")
> [@Ryan\_Liam](#):
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> I disagree, the prospect of an exit from the EU means that extenuating circumstances have come into play, in which there is a legitimate reason for a 2nd referendum, and this time they will leave.
I’m sorry, but **we** voted to stay in the Union of Kingdoms in the full knowledge that the Union might end up outside the European Union.
Politically, the successor to Cameron isn’t going to want to go down in history as the PM who lost the Union.
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### Author:  [@jjimm](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/jjimm)
#### Post date: [February 21, 2016, 10:22pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/brexit-poll/746547/19 "2016-02-21T22:22:40Z")
> [@John\_Mace](#):
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> Dear Britain: Stay in the EU, but DO NOT give up the Pound.
We will (I hope), and we won’t (ever).
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### Author:  [@Ryan\_Liam](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Ryan_Liam)
#### Post date: [February 21, 2016, 10:33pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/brexit-poll/746547/20 "2016-02-21T22:33:26Z")
> [@Quartz](#):
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> I’m sorry, but **we** voted to stay in the Union of Kingdoms in the full knowledge that the Union might end up outside the European Union.
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> Politically, the successor to Cameron isn’t going to want to go down in history as the PM who lost the Union.
That would be a political inevitability once the UK left the EU.
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