# brickbacon, sorry, you are a bigot

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**Category:** The BBQ Pit\
**Created:** [December 15, 2008, 3:59am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/brickbacon-sorry-you-are-a-bigot/477201 "2008-12-15T03:59:55Z")\
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**Author:** ![Heffalump\_and\_Roo](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/heffalump_and_roo/32/7691_2.png) [@Heffalump\_and\_Roo](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Heffalump_and_Roo)\
**Post date:** [December 16, 2008, 1:56am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/brickbacon-sorry-you-are-a-bigot/477201/52 "2008-12-16T01:56:26Z")

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> [@Richard\_Parker](#):
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> You think someone is out there gathering statistics on gay employment at civil rights organizations? That really seems plausible to you?

Why are you asking me? I didn’t make the claim. You did.

> [@Richard\_Parker](#):
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> And, keep in mind, this was his assertion. I’m claiming he is ignorant because his assertion is wrong. When you refer to “my experience” we’re not talking about a religious experience I had that is purely subjective. I’m making factual claims. They are either true or false.

We can’t know whether you had a religious experience or a purely subjective experience that you’re claiming.  
No, factual claims are claims that can be proven to be true or false. The claim that God exists is a true or false question. I dare you to prove it.  
Since you haven’t proven your claim, it exists in the same realm as God exists, at least until evidence is provided.

> [@Richard\_Parker](#):
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> If someone told me China was overrun by polar bears, and I called him ignorant based on my travels through China, it would be a slim defense to say that I’m merely “claiming that someone else is ignorant for not knowing what my experiences are on the subject.”

If I told you that you were an ignorant bigot because you didn’t know that China had purple dwarfs, how could you show that you weren’t an ignorant bigot if your rules of proof prevailed?  
btw, purple dwarfs are very secretive so don’t expect me to provide proof of them, you ignorant bigot.

> [@Richard\_Parker](#):
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> What is **brickbacon** ’s experience in the contemporary civil rights movement?

> [@"Is Gay the New Black?"](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/is-gay-the-new-black/476693/95):
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> I share your regret, maybe even more so since I am Black.

He might have more than a passing interest. I don’t know more than that and I doubt you did either before you made your claim that he was ignorant about it.

> [@Richard\_Parker](#):
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> I was not claiming that a common sense of injustice leads all oppressed people to join hands and sing kumbaya. I was claiming that the gay community is disproportionately represented in social activism, including race issues.

A claim for which you have no proof except your post.

> [@Enola\_Gay](#):
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> I find it incredible that someone who claims to have such close gay friends can be this unenlightened about the issues facing the gay community.

Please enlighten us.

> [@Diogenes\_the\_Cynic](#):
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> It can be argue that the right being taken away is their 14th Amendment right to equal protection.

But wouldn’t this be a right withheld (if it applied), not taken away since it wasn’t granted before?

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