# Bricker: any documentation at all = "intense documentation" so don't ask me for any **URL:** \ **Category:** The BBQ Pit\ **Created:** [March 22, 2013, 10:09pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/bricker-any-documentation-at-all-intense-documentation-so-dont-ask-me-for-any/653688 "2013-03-22T22:09:28Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 20\ **Page:** 1
**Author:** ![RTFirefly](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/r/c77e96/32.png) [@RTFirefly](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/RTFirefly)\ **Post date:** [March 22, 2013, 10:09pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/bricker-any-documentation-at-all-intense-documentation-so-dont-ask-me-for-any/653688/1 "2013-03-22T22:09:28Z")
After five pages of trying to pin Bricker down in the [Reid Admits No Support For “Assault Weapons” Ban](http://boards.straightdope.com/sdmb/showthread.php?t=685677) thread, there were things I wanted to say that might irk the GD mods more than I already have. Hence this thread. Anyhow, the basics, for those just tuning in: in his OP, Bricker said: > [@](#): > > For years, Second Amendment activists were told, in effect, “Stop worrying about guns – gun control is off the table.” The message seemed to be, “Don’t worry about voting for Democrats; they won’t try to enact gun control measures because that issue is dead.” > > Of course, that message wasn’t the truth. Since Bricker has been of the opinion that this commitment, if truthful, had to be for ever and all time, people (including yours truly) have been trying to pin him down to provide for-instances of this alleged commitment on the part of the Democratic Party, or individual Dems, to see just how strong a commitment was made in actuality. After five pages, the request for a for-instance has been met with: > [@](#): > > The incredible bad faith shown by those who insist that a meme as obvious as this requires intense documentation is something i expect, and regard as the cost of doing business here. _ **Intense documentation?!?** _ You pompous ass, you haven’t been willing to provide **one single for-instance.** ( **Note to mods** : could you kindly change the thread title to: “Bricker: any documentation at all = “intense documentation” so don’t ask me for any.” I apparently hit the wrong button, and next thing I knew, my OP had been submitted.) ---
**Author:** ![RTFirefly](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/r/c77e96/32.png) [@RTFirefly](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/RTFirefly)\ **Post date:** [March 22, 2013, 10:20pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/bricker-any-documentation-at-all-intense-documentation-so-dont-ask-me-for-any/653688/2 "2013-03-22T22:20:52Z")
The “incredible bad faith” of asking for a for-instance in GD of something that you’re claiming not only exists, but has properties beyond those that most of us are willing to just take your word for…this is “my post is my cite, and you’re posting in bad faith if you don’t accept that.” **Bricker** , you’re not an encyclopedia. You’re not even particularly factual in the recent threads where we’ve run into each other. You’re working towards being just another “I’ll invent my own reality” conservative. ---
**Author:** ![dropzone](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/dropzone/32/7515_2.png) [@dropzone](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/dropzone)\ **Post date:** [March 22, 2013, 10:43pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/bricker-any-documentation-at-all-intense-documentation-so-dont-ask-me-for-any/653688/3 "2013-03-22T22:43:46Z")
Thread was TL;DR, but if he actually said > [@Bricker](#): > > The incredible bad faith shown by those who insist that a meme as obvious as this requires intense documentation is something i expect, and regard as the cost of doing business here. as a response for repeated requests for a cite, that is the dumbest fucking thing said in GD since our last 9/11 Truther visited. But I will have to take your word for it because TL;DR and all. ---
**Author:** ![dropzone](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/dropzone/32/7515_2.png) [@dropzone](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/dropzone)\ **Post date:** [March 22, 2013, 10:52pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/bricker-any-documentation-at-all-intense-documentation-so-dont-ask-me-for-any/653688/4 "2013-03-22T22:52:25Z")
> [@RTFirefly](#): > > Bricker: Don However, I’m confused as to the Don to whom you refer. Don Drysdale? Donnie Osmond? Donald Trump? I’m still not interested enough to read the other thread, but I’d like to know to put the whole thing in context. ---
**Author:** ![Boyo\_Jim](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/b/87869e/32.png) [@Boyo\_Jim](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Boyo_Jim)\ **Post date:** [March 22, 2013, 10:56pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/bricker-any-documentation-at-all-intense-documentation-so-dont-ask-me-for-any/653688/5 "2013-03-22T22:56:25Z")
Yeah, does it involve birth certificates? ---
**Author:** ![Ferret\_Herder](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/f/e47774/32.png) [@Ferret\_Herder](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Ferret_Herder)\ **Post date:** [March 22, 2013, 11:21pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/bricker-any-documentation-at-all-intense-documentation-so-dont-ask-me-for-any/653688/6 "2013-03-22T23:21:10Z")
> [@dropzone](#): > > But I will have to take your word for it because TL;DR and all. [Direct link to the post.](http://boards.straightdope.com/sdmb/showpost.php?p=16122859&postcount=208) ---
**Author:** ![RTFirefly](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/r/c77e96/32.png) [@RTFirefly](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/RTFirefly)\ **Post date:** [March 22, 2013, 11:37pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/bricker-any-documentation-at-all-intense-documentation-so-dont-ask-me-for-any/653688/7 "2013-03-22T23:37:57Z")
> [@dropzone](#): > > However, I’m confused as to the Don to whom you refer. Don Drysdale? Donnie Osmond? Donald Trump? I’m still not interested enough to read the other thread, but I’d like to know to put the whole thing in context. Don Bruce, from Robert Asprin’s Myth series. ---
**Author:** ![Rhythmdvl](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/r/85f322/32.png) [@Rhythmdvl](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Rhythmdvl)\ **Post date:** [March 22, 2013, 11:49pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/bricker-any-documentation-at-all-intense-documentation-so-dont-ask-me-for-any/653688/8 "2013-03-22T23:49:55Z")
What, has it been three weeks already? Sheesh, I gotta get my calendar straight. People, it’s simple. Set your Manual Ignore settings appropriately. GQ? You’re probably good. Cafe? Definitely. IMHO? Usually. Pit? Probably not. GD or Elections? Definitely not. Unless you like partisan hackery, that is. If you’ve a penchant for Hannity, O’Reilly, Rush, et at, by all means take him seriously. Otherwise, just see who’s posting and move on. ---
**Author:** ![Kolak\_of\_Twilo](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/kolak_of_twilo/32/73_2.png) [@Kolak\_of\_Twilo](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Kolak_of_Twilo)\ **Post date:** [March 23, 2013, 12:06am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/bricker-any-documentation-at-all-intense-documentation-so-dont-ask-me-for-any/653688/9 "2013-03-23T00:06:11Z")
> [@RTFirefly](#): > > _ **Intense documentation?!?** _ You pompous ass, you haven’t been willing to provide **one single for-instance.** Oh, come on. **RTF** you know very well The Bricker Show is one of the longest running shitcoms here at The Straight Dope. This sort of behavior is one of the crucial plot elements of the genre better known as political action/misadventure programming. ---
**Author:** ![Jenaroph](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/j/e8c25b/32.png) [@Jenaroph](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Jenaroph)\ **Post date:** [March 23, 2013, 12:29am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/bricker-any-documentation-at-all-intense-documentation-so-dont-ask-me-for-any/653688/10 "2013-03-23T00:29:22Z")
I guess Bricker’s just not all that interested in fighting ignorance. ---
**Author:** ![Bricker](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/b/977dab/32.png) [@Bricker](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Bricker)\ **Post date:** [March 23, 2013, 12:29am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/bricker-any-documentation-at-all-intense-documentation-so-dont-ask-me-for-any/653688/11 "2013-03-23T00:29:36Z")
> [@RTFirefly](#): > > _ **Intense documentation?!?** _ You pompous ass, you haven’t been willing to provide **one single for-instance.** Post 50. ---
**Author:** ![dropzone](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/dropzone/32/7515_2.png) [@dropzone](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/dropzone)\ **Post date:** [March 23, 2013, 1:02am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/bricker-any-documentation-at-all-intense-documentation-so-dont-ask-me-for-any/653688/12 "2013-03-23T01:02:13Z")
> [@Ferret\_Herder](#): > > [Direct link to the post.](http://boards.straightdope.com/sdmb/showpost.php?p=16122859&postcount=208) Thanks, but it needs context and I’m too dead-assed to bother. ---
**Author:** ![Typo\_Negative](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/typo_negative/32/484_2.png) [@Typo\_Negative](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Typo_Negative)\ **Post date:** [March 23, 2013, 1:03am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/bricker-any-documentation-at-all-intense-documentation-so-dont-ask-me-for-any/653688/13 "2013-03-23T01:03:54Z")
> [@Bricker](#): > > Post 50. I don’t know what that link used to cite but now, _quoth the server 404_ ---
**Author:** ![Czarcasm](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/czarcasm/32/4050_2.png) [@Czarcasm](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Czarcasm)\ **Post date:** [March 23, 2013, 1:41am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/bricker-any-documentation-at-all-intense-documentation-so-dont-ask-me-for-any/653688/14 "2013-03-23T01:41:13Z")
> [@Typo\_Negative](#): > > I don’t know what that link used to cite but now, _quoth the server 404_ [Fixed link to article.](http://jameswebb.com/editorials_articles/wsj-scotsirishvote.html) ---
**Author:** ![Left\_Hand\_of\_Dorkness](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/left_hand_of_dorkness/32/7156_2.png) [@Left\_Hand\_of\_Dorkness](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Left_Hand_of_Dorkness)\ **Post date:** [March 23, 2013, 2:04am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/bricker-any-documentation-at-all-intense-documentation-so-dont-ask-me-for-any/653688/15 "2013-03-23T02:04:59Z")
Oookay, just read that entire editorial. There’s no mention of second amendment or firearms (I control+F’ed at the end just to make sure), and one mention of guns: > [@](#): > > The GOP strategy is heavily directed toward keeping peace with this culture, which every four years is seduced by the siren song of guns, God, flag, opposition to abortion and success in war. And THAT’s your evidence of “Democratic legislators who pledged never to consider new gun control legislation and then went back on that pledge”? Are you serious? ---
**Author:** ![R3d\_Anonymous](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/r/aeb1de/32.png) [@R3d\_Anonymous](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/R3d_Anonymous)\ **Post date:** [March 23, 2013, 2:34am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/bricker-any-documentation-at-all-intense-documentation-so-dont-ask-me-for-any/653688/16 "2013-03-23T02:34:59Z")
This is your second poster pitting in less than a week. Hmm…are people seriously pissing you off here or something? ---
**Author:** ![John\_Mace](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/john_mace/32/185_2.png) [@John\_Mace](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/John_Mace)\ **Post date:** [March 23, 2013, 3:05am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/bricker-any-documentation-at-all-intense-documentation-so-dont-ask-me-for-any/653688/17 "2013-03-23T03:05:04Z")
I’m just glad that **Bricker** cleared things up so that I know I was posting in bad faith in that thread. I mean, offering actual evidence is clearly “bad faith”. I should have known better and made reference to well established, but uncited, memes. Shame on me! ---
**Author:** ![Sitnam](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/6a8cbe/32.png) [@Sitnam](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Sitnam)\ **Post date:** [March 23, 2013, 3:36am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/bricker-any-documentation-at-all-intense-documentation-so-dont-ask-me-for-any/653688/18 "2013-03-23T03:36:50Z")
You are surprised a lawyer is arguing a position while considering the truth irrelevant? That is the man’s JOB. How about we don’t sit in the corner and hold our breath for self reflection. ---
**Author:** ![Sitnam](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/6a8cbe/32.png) [@Sitnam](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Sitnam)\ **Post date:** [March 23, 2013, 3:42am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/bricker-any-documentation-at-all-intense-documentation-so-dont-ask-me-for-any/653688/19 "2013-03-23T03:42:00Z")
> [@Anonymous User](#): > > This is your second poster pitting in less than a week. Hmm…are people seriously pissing you off here or something? Hilarious. Shouldn’t you be off starting another ridiculously irrelevant Pit Thread about a dead guy? ---
**Author:** ![Ludovic](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/l/7ab992/32.png) [@Ludovic](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Ludovic)\ **Post date:** [March 23, 2013, 3:55am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/bricker-any-documentation-at-all-intense-documentation-so-dont-ask-me-for-any/653688/20 "2013-03-23T03:55:49Z")
> [@Sitnam](#): > > You are surprised a lawyer is arguing a position while considering the truth irrelevant? > > That is the man’s JOB. No, it isn’t. [Next page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/bricker-any-documentation-at-all-intense-documentation-so-dont-ask-me-for-any/653688.md?page=2)