# Bricker is becoming more and more like Trump **URL:** \ **Category:** The BBQ Pit\ **Created:** [June 17, 2018, 2:50pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/bricker-is-becoming-more-and-more-like-trump/816261 "2018-06-17T14:50:10Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 20\ **Page:** 8
**Author:** ![ElvisL1ves](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/e/5daacb/32.png) [@ElvisL1ves](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/ElvisL1ves)\ **Post date:** [June 20, 2018, 4:22pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/bricker-is-becoming-more-and-more-like-trump/816261/141 "2018-06-20T16:22:47Z")
Sure must feel good to be above it all. ---
**Author:** ![Scumpup](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/ce73a5/32.png) [@Scumpup](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Scumpup)\ **Post date:** [June 20, 2018, 4:54pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/bricker-is-becoming-more-and-more-like-trump/816261/142 "2018-06-20T16:54:25Z")
> [@ElvisL1ves](#): > > Sure must feel good to be above it all. Your total lack of self-awareness is humorously endearing. You should see if anybody is looking for a cantankerous, dim-witted sidekick. You’re a natural. ---
**Author:** ![ElvisL1ves](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/e/5daacb/32.png) [@ElvisL1ves](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/ElvisL1ves)\ **Post date:** [June 20, 2018, 4:57pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/bricker-is-becoming-more-and-more-like-trump/816261/143 "2018-06-20T16:57:45Z")
What did I tell you about not posting drunk? ---
**Author:** ![Bricker](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/b/977dab/32.png) [@Bricker](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Bricker)\ **Post date:** [June 20, 2018, 5:47pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/bricker-is-becoming-more-and-more-like-trump/816261/144 "2018-06-20T17:47:52Z")
> [@Left\_Hand\_of\_Dorkness](#): > > It’s something I try to avoid, but yeah, I know I’m guilty of it too. But this is some pretty extreme gotcha-ing. > > And the weirdest part is, IT ISN’T EVEN FOR HIS SIDE. He doesn’t even oppose the overarching point being made! Unless his side is, “I’m smarter than everyone else and I’m the only one who makes honest arguments, so let me mischaracterize someone else’s argument in order to show how dishonest they are,” in which case, sure, he’s scoring points for his side. Can you help me, then, by taking this sentence: _I have worked in child welfare for 23 years and have never seen a parent placed in jail for shoplifting._ And explaining it to me like I’m a child. How should this be read to be a sensible claim? My way was an extreme gotcha. How should I have read this? ---
**Author:** ![Bricker](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/b/977dab/32.png) [@Bricker](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Bricker)\ **Post date:** [June 20, 2018, 5:50pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/bricker-is-becoming-more-and-more-like-trump/816261/145 "2018-06-20T17:50:30Z")
> [@Left\_Hand\_of\_Dorkness](#): > > So yeah, there’s a debate to be had, and Bricker could–I know this idea is shocking–DEBATE THE CONSERVATIVES WHOM HE DISAGREES WITH. Which posters take the position that taking kids is a good thing? ---
**Author:** ![RitterSport](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/rittersport/32/6326_2.png) [@RitterSport](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/RitterSport)\ **Post date:** [June 20, 2018, 6:55pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/bricker-is-becoming-more-and-more-like-trump/816261/146 "2018-06-20T18:55:05Z")
> [@Bricker](#): > > Can you help me, then, by taking this sentence: > > _I have worked in child welfare for 23 years and have never seen a parent placed in jail for shoplifting._ > > And explaining it to me like I’m a child. How should this be read to be a sensible claim? My way was an extreme gotcha. How should I have read this? I think it was explained in the other thread. I think it’s something like, if you work for CPS, you only get involved if the shoplifter in question can’t make other arrangements. In the vast majority of cases, other arrangements can be made (stay with the other parent, neighbors, etc.), so it’s possible that the CPS people wouldn’t see any kids arrived if the parent was accused of shoplifting. ---
**Author:** ![GIGObuster](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/gigobuster/32/421_2.png) [@GIGObuster](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/GIGObuster)\ **Post date:** [June 20, 2018, 7:03pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/bricker-is-becoming-more-and-more-like-trump/816261/147 "2018-06-20T19:03:30Z")
> [@Bricker](#): > > Which posters take the position that taking kids is a good thing? Yeah I know, the posters that defend the administration in that thread feel terrible… they feel bad for the kids, but it is not the fault of the Republicans. :rolleyes: Trump ran out of gas! He got a flat tire! He didn’t have change for cab fare! He lost his tux at the cleaners! He locked his keys in the car! An old friend came in from out of town! Someone stole his EOs! There was an earthquake! A terrible flood! Locusts! IT WASN’T HIS FAULT, THEY SWEAR TO GOD! ---
**Author:** ![Czarcasm](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/czarcasm/32/4050_2.png) [@Czarcasm](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Czarcasm)\ **Post date:** [June 20, 2018, 7:10pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/bricker-is-becoming-more-and-more-like-trump/816261/148 "2018-06-20T19:10:10Z")
> [@Bricker](#): > > Can you help me, then, by taking this sentence: > > _I have worked in child welfare for 23 years and have never seen a parent placed in jail for shoplifting._ > > And explaining it to me like I’m a child. How should this be read to be a sensible claim? My way was an extreme gotcha. How should I have read this? It was already explained to you, and diversion time is over. How do you actually feel about babies and toddlers being ripped from their families and put in concentration camps, [then forcibly drugged into compliance and confusion?](https://www.rawstory.com/2018/06/immigrant-children-forcibly-drugged-powerful-psychotropics-texas-treatment-center-lawsuit/#.WyqQpDI8aWk.twitter) In the other thread you said The BBQ Pit was the proper place to show how you really feel, so let’s have it. ---
**Author:** ![Bricker](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/b/977dab/32.png) [@Bricker](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Bricker)\ **Post date:** [June 20, 2018, 7:39pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/bricker-is-becoming-more-and-more-like-trump/816261/149 "2018-06-20T19:39:41Z")
> [@Czarcasm](#): > > It was already explained to you, and diversion time is over. How do you actually feel about babies and toddlers being ripped from their families and put in concentration camps, [then forcibly drugged into compliance and confusion?](https://www.rawstory.com/2018/06/immigrant-children-forcibly-drugged-powerful-psychotropics-texas-treatment-center-lawsuit/#.WyqQpDI8aWk.twitter) In the other thread you said The BBQ Pit was the proper place to show how you really feel, so let’s have it. I think it’s a horrible, painful, shameful reminder of why electing a reality TV star won’t go well. I think Trump is so used to negotiations that include pressure tactics he’s forgotten, if he ever knew, that real people are in pain here. It’s a devastating illustration that norms exist because laws cannot constrain bad faith, or worse: no faith. It’s repugnant and soulless. ---
**Author:** ![Bryan\_Ekers](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/bryan_ekers/32/183_2.png) [@Bryan\_Ekers](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Bryan_Ekers)\ **Post date:** [June 20, 2018, 7:42pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/bricker-is-becoming-more-and-more-like-trump/816261/150 "2018-06-20T19:42:32Z")
> [@Scumpup](#): > > **Bricker** offers useful knowledge of the law and the legal system whether you agree with his politics or not. **Bryan Ekers** brings no value to a conversation. 59000 or so of his posts are thuddingly unfunny one-line attempts at humor. One supposes he fondly believes himself to be the SDMB’s beloved class clown, but folks believe all sorts of things that just aren’t true. Ahhh, that’s some nice tasty validation right there. ---
**Author:** ![Bricker](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/b/977dab/32.png) [@Bricker](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Bricker)\ **Post date:** [June 20, 2018, 7:42pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/bricker-is-becoming-more-and-more-like-trump/816261/151 "2018-06-20T19:42:42Z")
> [@RitterSport](#): > > I think it was explained in the other thread. I think it’s something like, if you work for CPS, you only get involved if the shoplifter in question can’t make other arrangements. In the vast majority of cases, other arrangements can be made (stay with the other parent, neighbors, etc.), so it’s possible that the CPS people wouldn’t see any kids arrived if the parent was accused of shoplifting. That might well explain “few” cases in 23 years. But “zero?” Not once was a single mom arrested and needed to stay in over the weekend before bail, without family or friends to come pick up a child? Really? Are you suggesting to me that ZERO is a likely number in 23 years? Eight thousand, three hundred and ninety-five days and that never happened ONCE?? ---
**Author:** ![Bricker](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/b/977dab/32.png) [@Bricker](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Bricker)\ **Post date:** [June 20, 2018, 7:47pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/bricker-is-becoming-more-and-more-like-trump/816261/152 "2018-06-20T19:47:36Z")
> [@Czarcasm](#): > > … [then forcibly drugged into compliance and confusion?](https://www.rawstory.com/2018/06/immigrant-children-forcibly-drugged-powerful-psychotropics-texas-treatment-center-lawsuit/#.WyqQpDI8aWk.twitter) Of course, I might be too naive in placing all the blame on the election of a reality star – did you see that the allegations in that lawsuit relate to events that happened both before and after January 20, 2018? That’s also disturbing to me. Is it also disturbing to you? Or will you attack me for even mentioning it? ---
**Author:** ![Shodan](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/9f8e36/32.png) [@Shodan](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Shodan)\ **Post date:** [June 20, 2018, 7:54pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/bricker-is-becoming-more-and-more-like-trump/816261/153 "2018-06-20T19:54:02Z")
> [@Left Hand of Dorkness](#): > > Bricker could–I know this idea is shocking–DEBATE THE CONSERVATIVES WHOM HE DISAGREES WITH. The idea that you would accuse **Bricker** , of all Dopers, of not doing this ranges somewhere between “richly ironic” and “stupid”. Regards, Shodan ---
**Author:** ![Slash1972](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/slash1972/32/6461_2.png) [@Slash1972](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Slash1972)\ **Post date:** [June 20, 2018, 8:04pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/bricker-is-becoming-more-and-more-like-trump/816261/154 "2018-06-20T20:04:57Z")
> [@Bricker](#): > > I think it’s a horrible, painful, shameful reminder of why electing a reality TV star won’t go well. I think Trump is so used to negotiations that include pressure tactics he’s forgotten, if he ever knew, that real people are in pain here. It’s a devastating illustration that norms exist because laws cannot constrain bad faith, or worse: no faith. > > It’s repugnant and soulless. So…you are against it, or what? ---
**Author:** ![Czarcasm](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/czarcasm/32/4050_2.png) [@Czarcasm](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Czarcasm)\ **Post date:** [June 20, 2018, 8:06pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/bricker-is-becoming-more-and-more-like-trump/816261/155 "2018-06-20T20:06:36Z")
> [@Bricker](#): > > Of course, I might be too naive in placing all the blame on the election of a reality star – did you see that the allegations in that lawsuit relate to events that happened both before and after January 20, 2018? > > That’s also disturbing to me. > > Is it also disturbing to you? Or will you attack me for even mentioning it? Yes, I saw that, and I find it deplorable that this current administration _knew_ about the background of this place and still decided it was suitable. ---
**Author:** ![Fotheringay-Phipps](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/f/d9b06d/32.png) [@Fotheringay-Phipps](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Fotheringay-Phipps)\ **Post date:** [June 20, 2018, 8:06pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/bricker-is-becoming-more-and-more-like-trump/816261/156 "2018-06-20T20:06:39Z")
> [@Bryan\_Ekers](#): > > Ahhh, that’s some nice tasty validation right there. Take it as you like, but Scumpup is correct, IMO. Of late you’ve added a bit of substance to your game, which is an improvement of sorts. But historically and for the most part even now your posts consist of pathetic attempts at humor, which are all the worse for the obvious posturing. There’s room on this board for substanceless humorists, e.g. Vinyl Turnip or elucidator. But these guys are actually funny. Your 55,000 unfunny one liners don’t add anything to the board and make you look like a wannabe. ---
**Author:** ![Scumpup](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/ce73a5/32.png) [@Scumpup](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Scumpup)\ **Post date:** [June 20, 2018, 8:14pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/bricker-is-becoming-more-and-more-like-trump/816261/157 "2018-06-20T20:14:36Z")
> [@Bryan\_Ekers](#): > > Ahhh, that’s some nice tasty validation right there. Whatevs, Ekey. I considered you a jackass from when I first joined this board. The only times I ever thought you were funny were when you let your pompous streak get the better of you. ---
**Author:** ![Mr.Nylock](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/77aa72/32.png) [@Mr.Nylock](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Mr.Nylock)\ **Post date:** [June 20, 2018, 8:16pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/bricker-is-becoming-more-and-more-like-trump/816261/158 "2018-06-20T20:16:44Z")
I thought I was that only one who didn’t like Ekers postings, who knew. ---
**Author:** ![Bricker](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/b/977dab/32.png) [@Bricker](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Bricker)\ **Post date:** [June 20, 2018, 8:17pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/bricker-is-becoming-more-and-more-like-trump/816261/159 "2018-06-20T20:17:48Z")
> [@Slash1972](#): > > So…you are against it, or what? Give me time to process it. ---
**Author:** ![Larry\_Borgia](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/larry_borgia/32/156_2.png) [@Larry\_Borgia](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Larry_Borgia)\ **Post date:** [June 20, 2018, 8:20pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/bricker-is-becoming-more-and-more-like-trump/816261/160 "2018-06-20T20:20:49Z")
> [@Bricker](#): > > That might well explain “few” cases in 23 years. > > But “zero?” Not once was a single mom arrested and needed to stay in over the weekend before bail, without family or friends to come pick up a child? Really? > > Are you suggesting to me that ZERO is a likely number in 23 years? Eight thousand, three hundred and ninety-five days and that never happened ONCE?? Well, if you work for CPS, how many shoplifting cases are you going to see? It’s not really in your job description, is it? AFAICT most shoplifters are either impulsive teens, who aren’t likely to have kids, or poor people, who likely have relatives nearby. So it doesn’t strike me as completely implausible that some one could work CPS–which does a lot of things–for 23 years and not see a child separated from their shoplifting parent. [Previous page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/bricker-is-becoming-more-and-more-like-trump/816261.md?page=7) [Next page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/bricker-is-becoming-more-and-more-like-trump/816261.md?page=9)