# Bricker the troll **URL:** \ **Category:** The BBQ Pit\ **Created:** [September 27, 2009, 11:31pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/bricker-the-troll/511791 "2009-09-27T23:31:39Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 20\ **Page:** 5
**Author:** ![ElvisL1ves](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/e/5daacb/32.png) [@ElvisL1ves](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/ElvisL1ves)\ **Post date:** [September 28, 2009, 4:30pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/bricker-the-troll/511791/81 "2009-09-28T16:30:22Z")
True. Could be his primary motivation is to avoid admitting he’s been such a tool. ---
**Author:** ![RTFirefly](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/r/c77e96/32.png) [@RTFirefly](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/RTFirefly)\ **Post date:** [September 28, 2009, 4:36pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/bricker-the-troll/511791/82 "2009-09-28T16:36:59Z")
> [@Sam\_Stone](#): > > I have no persecution complex. I just find people like you amusing. I hang out here specifically because I know I’ll be ‘persecuted’, because it’s always good to test your ideas against your opponents instead of living in an echo chamber like you and most of the other people here do. You flit back and forth between the SDMB, Daily Kos, Think Progress, and the rest of the lefty blogosphere… Given how often the issues you raise and the positions you take match up with the latest glurge making its way around the wingnutosphere, and give the total crap you often provide in the way of cites, that’s a rather odd accusation for you to make, **Sam**. But whatever. 🙂 ---
**Author:** ![elucidator](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/e/8edcca/32.png) [@elucidator](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/elucidator)\ **Post date:** [September 28, 2009, 4:42pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/bricker-the-troll/511791/83 "2009-09-28T16:42:09Z")
Generally, when I am “amused”, I don’t jump up and down and scream myself hoarse. But maybe that’s just me… ---
**Author:** ![Euphonious\_Polemic](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/euphonious_polemic/32/3002_2.png) [@Euphonious\_Polemic](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Euphonious_Polemic)\ **Post date:** [September 28, 2009, 4:48pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/bricker-the-troll/511791/84 "2009-09-28T16:48:25Z")
When I’m amused, I don’t make up crap like “Doctors in Canada are not free to chose their own patients”, and then completely ignore cites to the contrary. Right **Sam**? btw, **Boyo Jim** nailed it. ---
**Author:** ![fubbleskag](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/f/c2a13f/32.png) [@fubbleskag](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/fubbleskag)\ **Post date:** [September 28, 2009, 4:50pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/bricker-the-troll/511791/85 "2009-09-28T16:50:10Z")
i miss the days when not even the pit was an appropriate place for troll accusations. ---
**Author:** ![Kobal2](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/kobal2/32/20_2.png) [@Kobal2](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Kobal2)\ **Post date:** [September 28, 2009, 4:50pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/bricker-the-troll/511791/86 "2009-09-28T16:50:26Z")
> [@Sam\_Stone](#): > > I have no persecution complex. I just find people like you amusing. I hang out here specifically because I know I’ll be ‘persecuted’ Oh. So _you’re_ a troll. Glad we cleared that up. ---
**Author:** ![Shodan](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/9f8e36/32.png) [@Shodan](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Shodan)\ **Post date:** [September 28, 2009, 4:50pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/bricker-the-troll/511791/87 "2009-09-28T16:50:39Z")
My gosh, you people are _hysterical_! Text that says a director of ACORN is a director of ACORN doesn’t say what it claims. Voter fraud isn’t fraud. Text that I quote from a cite isn’t in the cite. I am lying when I say that **Snowboarder Bo** characterized posts from **Sam Stone** as lies when he says > [@](#): > > Sam doesn’t do facts. He tells lies. even if he links to them. The Usual Suspects are second only to creationists in their ability to stand on their hind legs, look a documented fact in the eye, and claim “that never happened”. All the while claiming they are the party of reality. Reality in the ninth dimension of the planet Zork, maybe. Regards, Shodan ---
**Author:** ![MsWhatsit](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/eb8c5e/32.png) [@MsWhatsit](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/MsWhatsit)\ **Post date:** [September 28, 2009, 4:52pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/bricker-the-troll/511791/88 "2009-09-28T16:52:58Z")
Oh great, another anti-Zorkist. Just what we need around here. ---
**Author:** ![elucidator](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/e/8edcca/32.png) [@elucidator](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/elucidator)\ **Post date:** [September 28, 2009, 4:56pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/bricker-the-troll/511791/89 "2009-09-28T16:56:06Z")
I am perfectly willing to accept as fact the premise that **Shodan** has the most expertise of any of us regarding the 9th dimension of Zork. ---
**Author:** ![Diogenes\_the\_Cynic](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/e99b99/32.png) [@Diogenes\_the\_Cynic](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Diogenes_the_Cynic)\ **Post date:** [September 28, 2009, 4:59pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/bricker-the-troll/511791/90 "2009-09-28T16:59:56Z")
> [@Shodan](#): > > My gosh, you people are _hysterical_! Text that says a director of ACORN is a director of ACORN doesn’t say what it claims. He wasn’t a director of ACORN. > [@](#): > > Voter fraud isn’t fraud. There have been no allegations of voter fraud against anyone in ACORN. ---
**Author:** ![Gfactor](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/g/9de053/32.png) [@Gfactor](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Gfactor)\ **Post date:** [September 28, 2009, 5:00pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/bricker-the-troll/511791/91 "2009-09-28T17:00:06Z")
> [@Snowboarder\_Bo](#): > > Fuck off, Reminder: [QUOTE=Restricted language in the Pit] The following expressions should not be directed at other posters. * * * fuck you and variants, e.g., go fuck yourself, fuck off and die [/QUOTE] > **[Restricted language in the Pit](https://boards.straightdope.com/sdmb/showthread.php?t=508858)** > > The following expressions should not be directed at other posters. cunt and variants, e.g., cuntlapper motherfucker cocksucker fuck you and variants, e.g., go fuck yourself, fuck off and die suck/lick my dick/cock and variants Expressions not... No warning issued. **Gfactor** Pit Moderator ---
**Author:** ![Michael\_Ellis](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/977dab/32.png) [@Michael\_Ellis](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Michael_Ellis)\ **Post date:** [September 28, 2009, 5:00pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/bricker-the-troll/511791/92 "2009-09-28T17:00:32Z")
Why does anyone even bother trying to talk to Shodan? Seriously, he has so little regard for actual facts that there’s no point in discussing reality with him. Better to just laugh in his face. ---
**Author:** ![elucidator](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/e/8edcca/32.png) [@elucidator](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/elucidator)\ **Post date:** [September 28, 2009, 5:04pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/bricker-the-troll/511791/93 "2009-09-28T17:04:20Z")
We are moonbats. We believe that even a fool can be educated, that even the worst of us can be raised up, that reason and justice will, finally, prevail. And every once in a while, we win one. ---
**Author:** ![ElvisL1ves](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/e/5daacb/32.png) [@ElvisL1ves](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/ElvisL1ves)\ **Post date:** [September 28, 2009, 5:09pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/bricker-the-troll/511791/94 "2009-09-28T17:09:01Z")
At the very least, we \*may \*help dissuade other readers who might be inclined to think that a lack of response to **Shodan** ’s crap means there is no response. The Fight Against Ignorance, you may have heard of it. ---
**Author:** ![Michael\_Ellis](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/977dab/32.png) [@Michael\_Ellis](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Michael_Ellis)\ **Post date:** [September 28, 2009, 5:12pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/bricker-the-troll/511791/95 "2009-09-28T17:12:25Z")
There’s fighting ignorance, and then there’s slowdancing with it while banging your head against a brick wall. But yeah, you have a point. Trying to dispute people like **Shodan** is still an ugly, frustrating game of whack-a-mole, however. ---
**Author:** ![elucidator](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/e/8edcca/32.png) [@elucidator](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/elucidator)\ **Post date:** [September 28, 2009, 5:13pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/bricker-the-troll/511791/96 "2009-09-28T17:13:34Z")
> [@](#): > > …The Fight Against Ignorance, you may have heard of it. An important issue, to be sure, but not nearly so crucial as the struggle against cognitive dissonance, the number one threat to the Republic! ---
**Author:** ![ElvisL1ves](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/e/5daacb/32.png) [@ElvisL1ves](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/ElvisL1ves)\ **Post date:** [September 28, 2009, 5:21pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/bricker-the-troll/511791/97 "2009-09-28T17:21:07Z")
> [@elucidator](#): > > cognitive dissonance I dunno 'bout dat anymore. The intent eagerness to dismiss facts and cling to fantasies and fabrications, that we see all too often now, goes beyond the mere confusion and gullibility we used to credit such people with. Now it all too often starts to fit clinical definitions of psychological disorders. And it’s a lot scarier. ---
**Author:** ![BrainGlutton](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/b/82dd89/32.png) [@BrainGlutton](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/BrainGlutton)\ **Post date:** [September 28, 2009, 5:35pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/bricker-the-troll/511791/98 "2009-09-28T17:35:55Z")
> [@Sam\_Stone](#): > > Hey Bricker, welcome to the dog house. You’ve made your opponents sad and disappointed. They thought so much better of you, but now their eyes have been opened. > > Next they’ll be making up funny names for you, and when you make a good point in a thread they’ll claim that it’s all null and void because you were such a naughty poster in the ACORN thread that nothing you say can ever be trusted again. > > This is the preferred way in which the SDMB Lefty sticks his head in the sand and goes, 'lalalalalalala…" In between exhortations that they belong to the ‘reality based community’, of course. :rolleyes: This takes the pot-kettle thing to the next level: It is like one cast-iron cooking vessel actually struggling to somehow **use** its own blackness as an argument for the other’s. ---
**Author:** ![RTFirefly](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/r/c77e96/32.png) [@RTFirefly](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/RTFirefly)\ **Post date:** [September 28, 2009, 6:34pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/bricker-the-troll/511791/99 "2009-09-28T18:34:44Z")
> [@Shodan](#): > > My gosh, you people are _hysterical_! Text that says a director of ACORN is a director of ACORN doesn’t say what it claims. Voter fraud isn’t fraud. Text that I quote from a cite isn’t in the cite. I am lying when I say that **Snowboarder Bo** characterized posts from **Sam Stone** as lies when he says > > even if he links to them. > > The Usual Suspects are second only to creationists in their ability to stand on their hind legs, look a documented fact in the eye, and claim “that never happened”. It does help if the cited source is actually a decent cite. Just for fun, I clicked on one of the ‘cites’ in **Sam** ’s post that **Snowboarder Bo** linked to. It was a site called the American Thinker that was basically “far left base” this and “pandering to the feminists” that. Not exactly a reliable source of ‘facts.’ Yeah, I’ll spit in the eye of ‘documentation’ like that, and so should you. ---
**Author:** ![Shodan](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/9f8e36/32.png) [@Shodan](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Shodan)\ **Post date:** [September 28, 2009, 7:00pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/bricker-the-troll/511791/100 "2009-09-28T19:00:01Z")
> [@RTFirefly](#): > > It does help if the cited source is actually a decent cite. No, it doesn’t, actually. Currently, Oceania is at war with Eastasia. It doesn’t matter how many cites one can come up with that show that yesterday it was Eurasia. Regards, Shodan [Previous page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/bricker-the-troll/511791.md?page=4) [Next page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/bricker-the-troll/511791.md?page=6)