# Bricker, You're a Jackass Extraordinaire **URL:** \ **Category:** The BBQ Pit\ **Created:** [May 12, 2012, 11:13pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/bricker-youre-a-jackass-extraordinaire/621734 "2012-05-12T23:13:01Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 20\ **Page:** 14
**Author:** ![Shayna](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/shayna/32/17976_2.png) [@Shayna](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Shayna)\ **Post date:** [May 29, 2012, 1:48am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/bricker-youre-a-jackass-extraordinaire/621734/261 "2012-05-29T01:48:55Z")
Holy shit, is this thing still going on? I’ve been luxuriating in the turquoise waters of the Turks & Caicos Islands in the Caribbean for the past week. I thought for sure this horse would be dead by now. Y’all sure do know how to keep the pot boiling, don’t you. Should I bother getting back up to speed? Nah. I’m too happy and relaxed. Carry on. ---
**Author:** ![Martin\_Hyde](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/47e85d/32.png) [@Martin\_Hyde](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Martin_Hyde)\ **Post date:** [May 29, 2012, 2:38am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/bricker-youre-a-jackass-extraordinaire/621734/262 "2012-05-29T02:38:43Z")
> [@Shayna](#): > > Holy shit, is this thing still going on? I’ve been luxuriating in the turquoise waters of the Turks & Caicos Islands in the Caribbean for the past week. I thought for sure this horse would be dead by now. Y’all sure do know how to keep the pot boiling, don’t you. > > Should I bother getting back up to speed? Nah. I’m too happy and relaxed. Carry on. That’s a good thing since you started off bat shit crazy and unbalanced. I hope you received some mental health services while you were in the Caribbean. ---
**Author:** ![Left\_Hand\_of\_Dorkness](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/left_hand_of_dorkness/32/7156_2.png) [@Left\_Hand\_of\_Dorkness](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Left_Hand_of_Dorkness)\ **Post date:** [May 29, 2012, 2:46am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/bricker-youre-a-jackass-extraordinaire/621734/263 "2012-05-29T02:46:30Z")
> [@Shayna](#): > > Holy shit, is this thing still going on? I’ve been luxuriating in the turquoise waters of the Turks & Caicos Islands in the Caribbean for the past week. I thought for sure this horse would be dead by now. Y’all sure do know how to keep the pot boiling, don’t you. When you bump it 31 hours after the last post, I think the appropriate saying about the pot also involves the kettle. ---
**Author:** ![BrainGlutton](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/b/82dd89/32.png) [@BrainGlutton](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/BrainGlutton)\ **Post date:** [June 22, 2012, 10:48pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/bricker-youre-a-jackass-extraordinaire/621734/264 "2012-06-22T22:48:56Z")
[**Bricker’s** latest dishonest bullshit.](http://boards.straightdope.com/sdmb/showthread.php?t=656112) ---
**Author:** ![Mosier](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/7ea924/32.png) [@Mosier](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Mosier)\ **Post date:** [June 22, 2012, 10:50pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/bricker-youre-a-jackass-extraordinaire/621734/265 "2012-06-22T22:50:18Z")
> [@BrainGlutton](#): > > [**Bricker’s** latest dishonest bullshit.](http://boards.straightdope.com/sdmb/showthread.php?t=656112) What’s dishonest about it? ---
**Author:** ![ElvisL1ves](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/e/5daacb/32.png) [@ElvisL1ves](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/ElvisL1ves)\ **Post date:** [June 22, 2012, 10:53pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/bricker-youre-a-jackass-extraordinaire/621734/266 "2012-06-22T22:53:35Z")
This time he \*admitted \*trolling (post 27). Can’t you fucking read for content? :rolleyes: ---
**Author:** ![boytyperanma](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/b/4491bb/32.png) [@boytyperanma](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/boytyperanma)\ **Post date:** [June 22, 2012, 11:08pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/bricker-youre-a-jackass-extraordinaire/621734/267 "2012-06-22T23:08:51Z")
I thought **Brickers** pitting schedule was every three months, this revival is early. ---
**Author:** ![Typo\_Negative](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/typo_negative/32/484_2.png) [@Typo\_Negative](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Typo_Negative)\ **Post date:** [June 22, 2012, 11:09pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/bricker-youre-a-jackass-extraordinaire/621734/268 "2012-06-22T23:09:02Z")
> [@ElvisL1ves](#): > > This time he \*admitted \*trolling (post 27). Can’t you fucking read for content? :rolleyes: This was 'admitted trolling" to you? Or am I having a whoosh moment? > [@](#): > > For the moment, I just want to see where the discussion goes. My opinions sometimes change as a result of reading reasoning here. I started out thinking that the only difference between my hypo and the immigration business was the very dangerous, “Well, we like these results but don’t like those,” which is, in my view, a really poor baseline principle. > > But then someone pointed out that one law’s text actually mentions discretionary enforcement and the other’s does not. To me, that’s a much more solid base upon which to rest a distinction. ---
**Author:** ![magellan01](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/45deac/32.png) [@magellan01](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/magellan01)\ **Post date:** [June 22, 2012, 11:13pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/bricker-youre-a-jackass-extraordinaire/621734/269 "2012-06-22T23:13:52Z")
> [@Typo\_Negative](#): > > This was 'admitted trolling" to you? Or am I having a whoosh moment? No. The explanation is that **ElvisL1ves** is an idiot. ---
**Author:** ![Mosier](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/7ea924/32.png) [@Mosier](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Mosier)\ **Post date:** [June 22, 2012, 11:17pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/bricker-youre-a-jackass-extraordinaire/621734/270 "2012-06-22T23:17:39Z")
> [@ElvisL1ves](#): > > This time he \*admitted \*trolling (post 27). Can’t you fucking read for content? :rolleyes: He admitted to attempting to draw a connection between his hypothetical and Obama’s decision to not deport certain people. Then, when it was pointed out that there was an important distinction between the two which he was missing, he changed his mind. Which part of that was trolling? ---
**Author:** ![ElvisL1ves](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/e/5daacb/32.png) [@ElvisL1ves](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/ElvisL1ves)\ **Post date:** [June 22, 2012, 11:20pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/bricker-youre-a-jackass-extraordinaire/621734/271 "2012-06-22T23:20:54Z")
> [@Typo\_Negative](#): > > This was 'admitted trolling" to you? Or am I having a whoosh moment? Whoosh. Unless you don’t think that posting something solely in the hopes of getting a reaction, or springing a gotcha, not in the interest of actually discussing a topic, counts as trolling. Note that at no time did **Bricker** ever offer a view of his own on the topic he purported to be interested in. In Post 27, he actually acknowledged that he was trying yet again for a “Look at the liberal hypocrisy!” moments that have become his sole purpose for being on this board at all. If you want to call that something other than trolling, what do you propose instead? ---
**Author:** ![boytyperanma](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/b/4491bb/32.png) [@boytyperanma](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/boytyperanma)\ **Post date:** [June 22, 2012, 11:24pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/bricker-youre-a-jackass-extraordinaire/621734/272 "2012-06-22T23:24:55Z")
> [@ElvisL1ves](#): > > Note that at no time did **Bricker** ever offer a view of his own on the topic he purported to be interested in. Does he ever? I can’t remember a thread he’s started stating his own opinion in the OP ---
**Author:** ![Procrustus](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/procrustus/32/2994_2.png) [@Procrustus](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Procrustus)\ **Post date:** [June 22, 2012, 11:27pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/bricker-youre-a-jackass-extraordinaire/621734/273 "2012-06-22T23:27:39Z")
> [@boytyperanma](#): > > Does he ever? I can’t remember a thread he’s started stating his own opinion in the OP He seemed pretty happy the SEIU lost their SCOTUS case. I think he even said “yippee.” ---
**Author:** ![ElvisL1ves](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/e/5daacb/32.png) [@ElvisL1ves](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/ElvisL1ves)\ **Post date:** [June 22, 2012, 11:36pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/bricker-youre-a-jackass-extraordinaire/621734/274 "2012-06-22T23:36:44Z")
> [@boytyperanma](#): > > Does he ever? I can’t remember a thread he’s started stating his own opinion in the OP He will on the now-rare occasions when he’s not actually going for a juvenile gotcha. This was not one, nor was it atypical. The multiple people who’ve chided him lately along the lines of “You’re better than this” are unfortunately arguing against the evidence. ---
**Author:** ![John\_Mace](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/john_mace/32/185_2.png) [@John\_Mace](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/John_Mace)\ **Post date:** [June 22, 2012, 11:41pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/bricker-youre-a-jackass-extraordinaire/621734/275 "2012-06-22T23:41:45Z")
I think it’s a childish habit and if it’s not trolling, it skates very close to the line. If we take the many times he’s started threads like this, I think a good case could be made for trolling. Anyone want to indict and prosecute? ---
**Author:** ![boytyperanma](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/b/4491bb/32.png) [@boytyperanma](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/boytyperanma)\ **Post date:** [June 22, 2012, 11:47pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/bricker-youre-a-jackass-extraordinaire/621734/276 "2012-06-22T23:47:14Z")
> [@John\_Mace](#): > > I think it’s a childish habit and if it’s not trolling, it skates very close to the line. If we take the many times he’s started threads like this, I think a good case could be made for trolling. Anyone want to indict and prosecute? Against the great **Bricker**? Somehow I see a 30 pages thread on the definition of trolling. It’d be a total waste of the prosecutors time, stick indicting the easily identifiable trolls imho. ---
**Author:** ![ElvisL1ves](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/e/5daacb/32.png) [@ElvisL1ves](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/ElvisL1ves)\ **Post date:** [June 22, 2012, 11:48pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/bricker-youre-a-jackass-extraordinaire/621734/277 "2012-06-22T23:48:55Z")
> [@ElvisL1ves](#): > > He will on the now-rare occasions when he’s not actually going for a juvenile gotcha. Which, I should state, are the occasions when he’s going for a juvenile neener-neener instead. ---
**Author:** ![Bricker](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/b/977dab/32.png) [@Bricker](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Bricker)\ **Post date:** [June 23, 2012, 12:17am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/bricker-youre-a-jackass-extraordinaire/621734/278 "2012-06-23T00:17:42Z")
> [@boytyperanma](#): > > Does he ever? I can’t remember a thread he’s started stating his own opinion in the OP Here are some reminders: > [@Health Care Debate: Opponents Won By Words, Says Pew](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/health-care-debate-opponents-won-by-words-says-pew/625811/1): > > [From here:](http://www.journalism.org/commentary_backgrounder/how_media_has_covered_health_care_debate) I see two interesting propositions. One is that if there is a liberal media, it was absent or clueless during the coverage of this subject. > > Two is that liberal talk show hosts devoted nearly twice as much time to discussing the issue as their conservative counterparts, and their coverage was not uniformly positive. (I infer that the conservatives’ coverage was more or less uniformly negative). > . > . > . > **I tend to agree with the conclusion,** but I am not sure that’s what the Pew study says. Cillizza buttresses the claim with Post polling data. > [@Well-intentioned ideas that won't work in real life: green grocer liberalism](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/well-intentioned-ideas-that-wont-work-in-real-life-green-grocer-liberalism/624728/1): > > And so, liberals to the rescue. At a cost of some $900,000, Philadelpha inner city corner stores are being incentivized to carry fresh fruits and vegetables. As the Washington Post explains: > . > . > . > \*\*I don’t want my government to have that attitude./b] > [@Oh, good! A New Constitutional Theory of Privacy!](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/oh-good-a-new-constitutional-theory-of-privacy/549942/1): > > Just what this country needs. > > The DC Circuit recently pondered the case of Antoine Jones. Jones, who owned a night club in Washington DC, had a GPS device affixed secretly to his car by police. Over the course of a month, police were able to show that he ended up in the same places as his alleged conspirators. > . > . > . > Now, this kind of analysis makes sense if you’re talking about, say, classified information. **But it’s not what the Fourth Amendment says.** > > Is it? > [@Progressives Unhappy With Politifact's Biggest Lie of 2011](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/progressives-unhappy-with-politifacts-biggest-lie-of-2011/606984/1): > > Paul Krugman’s [conscience](http://krugman.blogs.nytimes.com/2011/12/20/politifact-r-i-p/?smid=tw-NytimesKrugman&seid=auto) is shocked by the fact that Politifact, known for their ratings of various statements by politicians from True to Half True to False to Pants-on-Fire, has selected as their [“Lie of the Year,”](http://www.politifact.com/truth-o-meter/article/2011/dec/20/lie-year-democrats-claims-republicans-voted-end-me/) the Democrat’s claim that seniors would have to pay $12,500 more for health care “because Republicans voted to end Medicare.” > . > . > . > \*\*My own opinion is that Krugman privately thought of Politifact as an ally, and is upset to see his ally attacking friendly forces. \*\*But that’s pure speculation on my part. What’s undenaible is that Krugman, along with Talking Points Memo, Daily Kos, and The New Republic clearly believe Politifact’s analysis should never have been published. Whether they think this because they believe it to be flawed, or simply strategically unfriendly, is for another day. For now: Is Politifact correct to call the left’s collection of claims about Ryan’s plan a lie? A big lie? > [@DNA test on "discarded" breathilyzer mouthpiece needs no warrant](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/dna-test-on-discarded-breathilyzer-mouthpiece-needs-no-warrant/601500/1): > > So says the California Court of Appeals, as reported by [FourthAmendment.com](http://www.fourthamendment.com/blog/). > . > . > . > **Bad ruling, in my view.** > [@Should a Rich Speeder Pay More?](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/should-a-rich-speeder-pay-more/600311/1): > > From [this article:](http://money.msn.com/auto-insurance/should-a-rich-speeder-pay-more-carinsurance.aspx) > > \*\*I am against this system, \*\*and I rather suspect there will be at least some support for this scheme here. > [@Catholic Bishop Charged With Failure to Report Child Porn](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/catholic-bishop-charged-with-failure-to-report-child-porn/599692/1): > > Story [here.](http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/44907461/ns/us_news-crime_and_courts/) > > \*\*I support this prosecution, \*\*and I only would add that I don’t understand why Monsignor Murphy was not also indicted. > [@EPA Delays Climate Change Rules (but "Still Committed" to them)](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/epa-delays-climate-change-rules-but-still-committed-to-them/596821/1): > > Which prompted one [blogger to quip](http://thinkprogress.org/romm/2011/09/16/321242/white-house-delays-epa-co2-standards-but-is-still-very-much-committed-to-them/), “The White House is still “very much committed” to greenhouse gas reductions the way NBC was ‘Committed to Keeping Conan O’Brien’ on the network in January 2010. Too harsh? Just wait and see.” > . > . > . > Is this prediction anything more than a disappointed “green” fretting? \*\*I don’t think so, \*\*but I’m willing to be shown where I’m wrong. > [@Bullets as a metaphor](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/bullets-as-a-metaphor/590537/1): > > [Via YouTube, Steny Hoyer](http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=IIRwsrGPu7k): > > \*\*In my view, of course, Congressman Hoyer’s remarks are … well… unremarkable. \*\*His use of a metaphor is obvious. He’s not remotely suggesting anyone is using, or should use, actual firearms. He’s saying that House Republicans are risking the safety of the nation’s economy in an effort to injure the President’s political standing and electibility. ---
**Author:** ![Bricker](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/b/977dab/32.png) [@Bricker](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Bricker)\ **Post date:** [June 23, 2012, 12:24am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/bricker-youre-a-jackass-extraordinaire/621734/279 "2012-06-23T00:24:44Z")
> [@John\_Mace](#): > > I think it’s a childish habit and if it’s not trolling, it skates very close to the line. If we take the many times he’s started threads like this, I think a good case could be made for trolling. Anyone want to indict and prosecute? I am not understanding what you object to. The clear purpose of that hypo was to ask whether the principle used by the President to nullify the effects of a part of immigration law could be applied elsewhere. How is that anything close to trolling? When Justice Kennedy asks during oral argument if the Commerce Clause means that the government could ban broccoli, is he trolling? Of course not: he’s crafting a hypothetical that explores the limits and natural consequences of a given proposition. I am absolutely baffled, and disturbed, by your reaction. There are a bunch of idiots here who simply attack anything I say. Their opinions are useless. You don’t fall into that category at all, and I’m genuinely disturbed to see this reaction from you. ---
**Author:** ![xenophon41](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/xenophon41/32/253_2.png) [@xenophon41](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/xenophon41)\ **Post date:** [June 23, 2012, 12:29am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/bricker-youre-a-jackass-extraordinaire/621734/280 "2012-06-23T00:29:59Z")
**Bricker** , speaking as someone who’s not infrequently on the opposite side of a given issue from you, I agree you’re not shy about expressing your point of view in your OP’s, although you are quite fond of coyness in your argumentative structures. (By which I mean you’re no stranger to the rhetorical “gotcha” device.) But IMHO it would behoove you, I think, to remember late, unlamented SDMB poster **december** , and the ‘last straw’ which precipitated his/her banishment. I agree with **John Mace** that you’re skating quite close to the same line. [Previous page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/bricker-youre-a-jackass-extraordinaire/621734.md?page=13) [Next page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/bricker-youre-a-jackass-extraordinaire/621734.md?page=15)