# Bridget Burke **URL:** \ **Category:** The BBQ Pit\ **Created:** [July 19, 2007, 9:36pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/bridget-burke/412448 "2007-07-19T21:36:41Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 20\ **Page:** 2
**Author:** ![alice\_in\_wonderland](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/alice_in_wonderland/32/176_2.png) [@alice\_in\_wonderland](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/alice_in_wonderland)\ **Post date:** [July 20, 2007, 12:07am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/bridget-burke/412448/21 "2007-07-20T00:07:30Z")
[QUOTE=John Mace] To the OP: Protocol would have you place a link in the original thread inviting \*\*BB \*\*to join you in this Pit thread. Since you’re new around here, you might be aware of that custom. [/QUOTE] The original thread is (was?) closed though… ---
**Author:** ![Sarahfeena](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/sarahfeena/32/519_2.png) [@Sarahfeena](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Sarahfeena)\ **Post date:** [July 20, 2007, 12:22am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/bridget-burke/412448/22 "2007-07-20T00:22:43Z")
[QUOTE=Duck Duck Goose] I didn’t think the OP came across as strange in the linked thread; it was a question I have wondered about myself sometimes, as I browse Youtube. All sorts of things that make me go, “Um” are evidently deemed newsworthy and hit the mass media, we’ve had videos of little old ladies and little old men being mugged and beaten, why haven’t we had actual rape videos? Maybe it’s the last social frontier… And I thought the snark in Post 15 was unmerited. [/QUOTE] I agree…I didn’t think the OP of that thread was any stranger than a lot of things you see discussed around here. I don’t see any reason to make the kind of insinuations that **Bridget Burke** did. ---
**Author:** ![CarnalK](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/carnalk/32/486_2.png) [@CarnalK](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/CarnalK)\ **Post date:** [July 20, 2007, 12:46am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/bridget-burke/412448/23 "2007-07-20T00:46:58Z")
I don’t know, **Small British**. Your indignation seems a little Stage managed. After all, you are anonymous (part of why you asked) and you don’t intend to sign up. So it’s not like there’s even a “online reputation” to worry about. ---
**Author:** ![tomndebb](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/t/b9e5f3/32.png) [@tomndebb](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/tomndebb)\ **Post date:** [July 20, 2007, 12:55am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/bridget-burke/412448/24 "2007-07-20T00:55:35Z")
[QUOTE=CarnalK] I don’t know, **Small British**. Your indignation seems a little Stage managed. After all, you are anonymous (part of why you asked) and you don’t intend to sign up. So it’s not like there’s even a “online reputation” to worry about. [/QUOTE] Calling people “troll” as simply an insult is currently permitted in the **Pit**. Not very veiled accusations of sock-puppetry are not. ---
**Author:** ![Wee\_Bairn](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/w/90db22/32.png) [@Wee\_Bairn](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Wee_Bairn)\ **Post date:** [July 20, 2007, 1:22am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/bridget-burke/412448/25 "2007-07-20T01:22:08Z")
I don’t find the question odd, think \*\*BB \*\* was a bit out of line, especially if she went from a one off comment to posting about **SBSO** on another board, and don’t think Shoppie is wrong in not wanting one to imply he’s paedophile, especially as he is a guest here and many don’t “know” him or what he’s like. Now if **SBSO** starts a pit thread if someone calls him Mr. Poopy Pants, then that’s a different story. 🙂 ---
**Author:** ![Freudian\_Slit](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/f/5daacb/32.png) [@Freudian\_Slit](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Freudian_Slit)\ **Post date:** [July 20, 2007, 1:31am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/bridget-burke/412448/26 "2007-07-20T01:31:05Z")
It came off as a little weird, after the thread about how it is determined that one is looking for illegal child porn. Both threads in tandem came off as a little bizarre. I also think that this: > [@](#): > > Yes, I had considered that. In fact I was asking this question to do research for my (likely) next Great Debates thread, in which I propose that a lot of child pornography downloaders might just be rape fetishists. But I need the figures first. was an odd thing to say, considering that rape and degradation themed porn is on the net. In fact, I can’t conceive why someone who’s into rape fantasies (from either the victim or the rapist’s POV) would choose to D/L child pornography. ---
**Author:** ![John\_Mace](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/john_mace/32/185_2.png) [@John\_Mace](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/John_Mace)\ **Post date:** [July 20, 2007, 1:32am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/bridget-burke/412448/27 "2007-07-20T01:32:43Z")
[QUOTE=alice\_in\_wonderland] The original thread is (was?) closed though… [/QUOTE] Excuses, excuses. 🙂 ---
**Author:** ![zut](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/zut/32/2875_2.png) [@zut](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/zut)\ **Post date:** [July 20, 2007, 1:59am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/bridget-burke/412448/28 "2007-07-20T01:59:46Z")
[QUOTE=tomndebb] Calling people “troll” as simply an insult is currently permitted in the **Pit**. Not very veiled accusations of sock-puppetry are not. [/QUOTE] I don’t think that was an accusation of sock-puppetry; it was an accusation of similarity of purpose. More damning in real life; less damning on the Dope. ---
**Author:** ![CarnalK](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/carnalk/32/486_2.png) [@CarnalK](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/CarnalK)\ **Post date:** [July 20, 2007, 2:18am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/bridget-burke/412448/29 "2007-07-20T02:18:58Z")
[QUOTE=zut] I don’t think that was an accusation of sock-puppetry; it was an accusation of similarity of purpose. More damning in real life; less damning on the Dope. [/QUOTE] See, **tomndebb**? It was too very veiled. 😛 But it wasn’t really an accusation, my point was that just maybe SBSO posted a squicky thread so someone would call him a weirdo, then he could get indignant. i.e. “Stage managed”. Nice coincidence, and thus a joke is born. Now you know the secret of comedy. ---
**Author:** ![samclem](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/a9a28c/32.png) [@samclem](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/samclem)\ **Post date:** [July 20, 2007, 2:28am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/bridget-burke/412448/30 "2007-07-20T02:28:57Z")
[QUOTE=CarnalK] See, **tomndebb**? It was too very veiled. 😛 But it wasn’t really an accusation, my point was that just maybe SBSO posted a squicky thread so someone would call him a weirdo, then he could get indignant. i.e. “Stage managed”. Nice coincidence, and thus a joke is born. Now you know the secret of comedy. [/QUOTE] Give me a break. ☹ You, of all people know exactly what you’re posting. And we do too. It’s a tough room. ---
**Author:** ![CarnalK](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/carnalk/32/486_2.png) [@CarnalK](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/CarnalK)\ **Post date:** [July 20, 2007, 2:35am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/bridget-burke/412448/31 "2007-07-20T02:35:52Z")
[QUOTE=samclem] Give me a break. ☹ You, of all people know exactly what you’re posting. And we do too. It’s a tough room. [/QUOTE] :rolleyes: Yeah, I know what I’m posting. It was a little joke for the old timers. Since I don’t think anyone involved here is an internet mastermind, I’m sure you mods would have spotted it if SBSO was from California. Relaaaax. ---
**Author:** ![Muffin](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/muffin/32/4341_2.png) [@Muffin](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Muffin)\ **Post date:** [July 20, 2007, 2:56am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/bridget-burke/412448/32 "2007-07-20T02:56:28Z")
[QUOTE=Small British Shop Owner] Ah shit, I did “pail” again [/QUOTE] Whether you are a sexual deviant would depend on location. Shitting in a pail in a small sailboat far from shore is not uncommon and is in no way deviant, whereas several friends all shitting in pails in the choir gallery while gazing at nuns’ ankles during a church service is sexually deviant. It really comes down to where it is that you are when you shit in a pail. So, Small British Shop Owner, where usually are you when you shit in your pail? Your answer will help us determine whether or not you are a sexual deviant. For myself, I have only tried shitting in a pail once. This Boy Scout activity was so unsatisfactory, that since that time I have prefered to squat over scat hole than use a pail. When compared to shitting in a pail, I don’t know whether shitting on the ground makes me more or less of a sexual deviant, but the fact remains that I have a strong preference against shitting in a pail. ---
**Author:** ![Zoe](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/z/a4c791/32.png) [@Zoe](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Zoe)\ **Post date:** [July 20, 2007, 3:23am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/bridget-burke/412448/33 "2007-07-20T03:23:21Z")
> [@](#): > > **Small British** : I just think that perhaps Bridget could show some leeway. She did. She used the words _perhaps_ and _might_. That is sufficient leeway. Perhaps it is the pattern of the topics of some of your recent posts which possibly invoke feelings of mistrust. And maybe the fact that a mod closed your linked thread added to possible concerns. It could be that some people see the internet as being an extension of reality just as a newspaper or letter is and they may not relate to those who see it from behind one or more masks. > [@](#): > > Again, you are confusing me on the Dope with the “real me”. Which one of you is whining for an apology? You need to learn to choose your battles more carefully. ---
**Author:** ![Taber](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/t/ac91a4/32.png) [@Taber](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Taber)\ **Post date:** [July 20, 2007, 5:05am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/bridget-burke/412448/34 "2007-07-20T05:05:49Z")
Hmm…This doesn’t look like the right time to quote someone’s post, turn the letters purple and small, then throw out a clever but very wrong catchphrase ---
**Author:** ![CarnalK](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/carnalk/32/486_2.png) [@CarnalK](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/CarnalK)\ **Post date:** [July 20, 2007, 7:13am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/bridget-burke/412448/35 "2007-07-20T07:13:30Z")
Hmm, now that I think over your sad smiley, samclem, I wonder if I blew through what you meant. That maybe it’s too painful to bring up. If that’s what you meant then I still disagree but definitely not with the roll-eyes smiley. More of a :come on, dude, it was 3 years ago and nothing really happened anyway: smiley. I choose to use my sig for these moments: ---
**Author:** ![Happy\_Scrappy\_Hero\_Pup](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/h/ea5d25/32.png) [@Happy\_Scrappy\_Hero\_Pup](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Happy_Scrappy_Hero_Pup)\ **Post date:** [July 20, 2007, 7:24am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/bridget-burke/412448/36 "2007-07-20T07:24:00Z")
A guy purporting to be British using “beyond the pale” isn’t exactly the best example of sensitivity, either. ---
**Author:** ![Revenant\_Threshold](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/r/f1d935/32.png) [@Revenant\_Threshold](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Revenant_Threshold)\ **Post date:** [July 20, 2007, 7:30am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/bridget-burke/412448/37 "2007-07-20T07:30:44Z")
[QUOTE=Happy Scrappy Hero Pup] A guy purporting to be British using “beyond the pale” isn’t exactly the best example of sensitivity, either. [/QUOTE] I’ve used it, and had no idea the connotations before you posted this and I looked it up. I still probably wouldn’t be all that bothered using it, unless it caused offense. ---
**Author:** ![CarnalK](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/carnalk/32/486_2.png) [@CarnalK](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/CarnalK)\ **Post date:** [July 20, 2007, 7:35am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/bridget-burke/412448/38 "2007-07-20T07:35:48Z")
[QUOTE=Happy Scrappy Hero Pup] A guy purporting to be British using “beyond the pale” isn’t exactly the best example of sensitivity, either. [/QUOTE] So what are you saying? He’s making light of Irish oppression or something? It is a rather common turn of phrase, istm. ---
**Author:** ![Malacandra](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/45deac/32.png) [@Malacandra](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Malacandra)\ **Post date:** [July 20, 2007, 7:57am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/bridget-burke/412448/39 "2007-07-20T07:57:43Z")
[QUOTE=Happy Scrappy Hero Pup] A guy purporting to be British using “beyond the pale” isn’t exactly the best example of sensitivity, either. [/QUOTE] Don’t be silly. I know the origin of the phrase but I am a very smart Brit, and I’d be willing to conduct a straw poll of my countrymen confident that not one in twenty who used the expression had any clue that it meant anything other than “out of order”. Unless you’re Irish yourself, suppose you don’t go around being professionally offended on their behalf. :rolleyes: ---
**Author:** ![Gary\_Kumquat](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/g/4491bb/32.png) [@Gary\_Kumquat](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Gary_Kumquat)\ **Post date:** [July 20, 2007, 9:51am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/bridget-burke/412448/40 "2007-07-20T09:51:14Z")
[QUOTE=Happy Scrappy Hero Pup] A guy purporting to be British using “beyond the pale” isn’t exactly the best example of sensitivity, either. [/QUOTE] I’m British, and I’ve never heard of any issue with that phrase. Having looked it up, I’ve still no idea what issue there is with its use: > **[Beyond The Pale - Meaning & Origin Of The Phrase](https://www.phrases.org.uk/meanings/beyond-the-pale.html)** > > What's the meaning and origin of the phrase 'Beyond the pale'? "Firstly, let’s get get clear what word we are talking about here. It’s pale, and certainly not pail, - the phrase has nothing to do with buckets. The everyday use of the word pale is as the adjective meaning whitish and light in colour (and used to that effect by Procol Harum and countless paint adverts). This pale is the noun meaning ‘a stake or pointed piece of wood’. It is virtually obsolete now except in this phrase, but is still in use in the associated words paling (as in paling fence) and impale (as in Dracula movies). The paling fence is significant as the term pale became to mean the area enclosed by such a fence and later just the figurative meaning of ‘the area that is enclosed and safe’. So, to be ‘beyond the pale’ was to be outside the area accepted as ‘home’. Catherine the Great created a ‘Pale of Settlement’ in Russia in 1791. This was a western border region of the country in which Jews were allowed to live. The motivation behind this was to restrict trade between Jews and native Russians. Some Jews were allowed to live, as a concession, beyond the pale." [Previous page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/bridget-burke/412448.md?page=1) [Next page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/bridget-burke/412448.md?page=3)