# Brief nudity = nipple?

**URL:** <https://boards.straightdope.com/t/brief-nudity-nipple/93652>\
**Category:** Cafe Society\
**Created:** [November 16, 2001, 2:32am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/brief-nudity-nipple/93652 "2001-11-16T02:32:34Z")\
**Posts on this page:** 20\
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**Author:** ![thinksnow](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/thinksnow/32/2849_2.png) [@thinksnow](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/thinksnow)\
**Post date:** [November 16, 2001, 2:21pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/brief-nudity-nipple/93652/21 "2001-11-16T14:21:22Z")

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> \*\*Kipper \*\*  
> The rest of the world is rather puzzeled by the sex is bad but violence is OK attitude that the US media seems (at least at a distance) to have.

Tell me about it! I want to clarify, I surely wasn’t offended by the nipple shots, I’m in the “what’s the big deal” camp.

Minor tangent: I was on a flight and the in-flight movie was _The Matrix_ or some such thing. They edited out the curse words, but left in all the violence. Go figure :rolleyes: I mean, really, which is easier for an “impressionable youth” to access: the headphones to hear the “dirty words” or the big’ol screen, with all the shooting and kicking and everything? Idiot censors.

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**Author:** ![Suo\_Na](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/898d66/32.png) [@Suo\_Na](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Suo_Na)\
**Post date:** [November 16, 2001, 7:02pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/brief-nudity-nipple/93652/22 "2001-11-16T19:02:43Z")

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> \*Originally posted by Jeff Olsen \*  
> \*\*Some broadcasts of RHPS have Columbia’s nipple area pixellated out. Why? The special airing that Fox did with the stage performance did not do this and I could not see anything peeking out from under that bustier anyway! \*\*

Are you talking about the special from a few (10?) years ago? In that one they cut from Columbia to the stage actress during the exposed-nipple bit. And it is very visible, if you know when to look.

What I’ve never understood is why it’s okay to show a baby girl’s genitals but not an adult woman’s nipple. You’d think with all the pedophiles out there they’d be a bit more cautious. The adult at least has a choice; the infant does not.

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**Author:** ![rjung](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/r/45deac/32.png) [@rjung](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/rjung)\
**Post date:** [November 16, 2001, 7:09pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/brief-nudity-nipple/93652/23 "2001-11-16T19:09:47Z")

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> \*Originally posted by Niobium Knight \*  
> bloody hell you yanks and nudity. nothing wrong with nipples is there?

Don’t you know? The United States is so fragile that a bare nipple is enough to bring down the _entire country_ down on our heads! :eek: 😉

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> blimey it’s not as if they showed some hardcore anal sex antics or something is it?

Personally, I wish they would. Then maybe I’d be interested enough to watch.

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**Author:** ![Skywatcher](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/skywatcher/32/254_2.png) [@Skywatcher](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Skywatcher)\
**Post date:** [November 16, 2001, 8:25pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/brief-nudity-nipple/93652/24 "2001-11-16T20:25:12Z")

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> \*Originally posted by Suo Na \*  
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> > \*Originally posted by Jeff Olsen \*  
> > \*\*Some broadcasts of RHPS have Columbia’s nipple area pixellated out. Why? The special airing that Fox did with the stage performance did not do this and I could not see anything peeking out from under that bustier anyway! \*\*
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> Are you talking about the special from a few (10?) years ago? In that one they cut from Columbia to the stage actress during the exposed-nipple bit. And it is very visible, if you know when to look.\*\*

Yeah, that’s the one. I’ve seen the movie a few other times without the pixellation, maybe this is so those with projection TVs can’t see anything? 🙂

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**Author:** ![psychogumby](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/p/c0e974/32.png) [@psychogumby](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/psychogumby)\
**Post date:** [November 16, 2001, 9:24pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/brief-nudity-nipple/93652/25 "2001-11-16T21:24:12Z")

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maybe next they’ll show a dead beaver. :eek:

(and I don’t mean that guy from ‘Leave It To Beaver’ will be found dead, nor do I mean that it will be some wildlife catastrophe ;))

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**Author:** ![HubZilla](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/h/ccd318/32.png) [@HubZilla](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/HubZilla)\
**Post date:** [November 16, 2001, 9:52pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/brief-nudity-nipple/93652/26 "2001-11-16T21:52:18Z")

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Kind of reminds me of an incident during the WTC attacks coverage. They show all these shots of exploding planes, collapsing buildings, jumping people, bloody bodies _ad nauseum_.

But they bleep out the “oh shit” in a video.

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**Author:** ![The\_Tof](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/t/cdc98d/32.png) [@The\_Tof](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/The_Tof)\
**Post date:** [November 16, 2001, 11:26pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/brief-nudity-nipple/93652/27 "2001-11-16T23:26:06Z")

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> \*Originally posted by Oblong \*  
> \*\*Regarding editing, isn’t that done by the distributor? I don’t think the network, TNT or Comedy Central, have any say. That is all done ahead of time. The producers of the movie, or the distributor, decide at the time of release what the dubbing will be. That’s why older movies from the 80’s might have words like sonafabitch or godamn edited out when shown on TV.  
> Just a guess though. \*\*

I don’t know if this is fully accurate, but its close. I’m sure that Comedy Central doesn’t do its own editing anyway. Just because I KNOW things are said and done on South Park or The Man Show that get edited out of CC movies somehow. So I’m sure it’s not CC censors at work…

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**Author:** ![Dr.Rieux](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/aeb1de/32.png) [@Dr.Rieux](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Dr.Rieux)\
**Post date:** [November 17, 2001, 12:41am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/brief-nudity-nipple/93652/28 "2001-11-17T00:41:04Z")

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Am I the only one wondering if a corpse can even have an erect nipple? Wouldn’t post-mortem lividity preclude it?

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**Author:** ![jab1](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/j/ee7513/32.png) [@jab1](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/jab1)\
**Post date:** [November 17, 2001, 1:58am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/brief-nudity-nipple/93652/29 "2001-11-17T01:58:56Z")

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> \*Originally posted by GuanoLad \*  
> \*\*Oh, it is incredible how easy it can be to be bored with naked flesh! And this is a _bad_ thing! \*\*

Ever go to a nude beach? After a while you don’t get turned on any more…

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**Author:** ![ftg](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/ftg/32/2801_2.png) [@ftg](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/ftg)\
**Post date:** [November 17, 2001, 2:04am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/brief-nudity-nipple/93652/30 "2001-11-17T02:04:24Z")

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America is unbelievably weird about all this.

Last year Sela Ward popped a nipple (complete with hand contact) on “Once and Again” (season 1, episode 2, in the sex scene near the end) and I awaited the firestorm over it.

Never heard a peep anywhere. What happened to the Morality Enforcers?

“Once and Again” went downhill from there, but presumably for other reasons.

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**Author:** ![capacitor](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/c/e47774/32.png) [@capacitor](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/capacitor)\
**Post date:** [November 17, 2001, 3:17am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/brief-nudity-nipple/93652/31 "2001-11-17T03:17:48Z")

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I saw a Channel 4 News health report a few years back on how to self-examine for breast cancer. Sue Simmons was presenting it for Breast Cancer Awareness Month. On it, they had two women graphically demonstrating how it is done. Bare. No pixelation, no censorship. And it was shown at 6:00 pm. I think they show it every year now, I’m not sure.

They only sure way to have graphic full-frontal nudity and sex shown on regualar TV is to have Steven Speilburg direct the film.

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**Author:** ![capacitor](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/c/e47774/32.png) [@capacitor](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/capacitor)\
**Post date:** [November 17, 2001, 3:36am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/brief-nudity-nipple/93652/32 "2001-11-17T03:36:16Z")

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Yes, besides him, Steven Spielberg might have a chance too.

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**Author:** ![TheeGrumpy](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/t/779978/32.png) [@TheeGrumpy](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/TheeGrumpy)\
**Post date:** [November 17, 2001, 8:32pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/brief-nudity-nipple/93652/33 "2001-11-17T20:32:48Z")

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> \*Originally posted by Dr. Rieux \*  
> \*\*Am I the only one wondering if a corpse can even have an erect nipple? Wouldn’t post-mortem lividity preclude it? \*\*

Acutally, I’m impressed that the actress playing the corpse didn’t flinch when Grissom ran water over her legs. This one week after a scene with a breathing corpse in the background.

Jerry Stahl tends to write the weird ones for this show. Like the one where the health nut juiced her victims to death (Stahl was apparently part of a juicing cult for a while). Oddly enough, “Lady Heather” bore a striking resemblance to the juicer lady – particularly in her dealings with Grissom.

Was this thread about the particular CSI episode, or televised nipples in general?

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**Author:** ![Green\_Bean](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/green_bean/32/1760_2.png) [@Green\_Bean](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Green_Bean)\
**Post date:** [November 17, 2001, 8:48pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/brief-nudity-nipple/93652/34 "2001-11-17T20:48:27Z")

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_Hey Pete! Check out Channel 9!_

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**Post date:** [November 17, 2001, 11:47pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/brief-nudity-nipple/93652/35 "2001-11-17T23:47:35Z")

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> \*Originally posted by Suo Na \*  
> \*\*What I’ve never understood is why it’s okay to show a baby girl’s genitals but not an adult woman’s nipple. You’d think with all the pedophiles out there they’d be a bit more cautious. The adult at least has a choice; the infant does not. \*\*

Well, IANAP, but I don’t think that anyone gets excited about like, little babies. I think the bare minimum pedophile age is 6 or so, and you definitely wouldn’t see that on American TV. OK, now I feel gross…

LC

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**Author:** ![handy](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/h/b5a626/32.png) [@handy](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/handy)\
**Post date:** [November 18, 2001, 12:22am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/brief-nudity-nipple/93652/36 "2001-11-18T00:22:43Z")

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Oh, a nipple! How daring!

How about full body nudity? T’was such a thing with Schindler’s List shown during prime time tv some time ago.

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**Author:** ![ThunderBunny](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/t/73ab20/32.png) [@ThunderBunny](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/ThunderBunny)\
**Post date:** [November 18, 2001, 12:51am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/brief-nudity-nipple/93652/37 "2001-11-18T00:51:03Z")

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> \*Originally posted by Dr. Rieux \*  
> Am I the only one wondering if a corpse can even have an erect nipple? Wouldn’t post-mortem lividity preclude it?

Recall that the lady in question had a breast enlargement. IANAD, but I’ve heard that most boob jobs end with a permanently erect nipple.

But maybe that’s only for breast reconstruction… If nothing else, I’d love to know if what I heard is true or not. (Most preferably by example. Pictures would be nice, but I’m thinking hands-on examination is the more sceintific method here.)

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**Post date:** [November 19, 2001, 11:49pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/brief-nudity-nipple/93652/39 "2001-11-19T23:49:03Z")

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I always believe it is a good idea to close a conversation with a little bit of comedy. To help with that, here are snippits of email I recieved about the alleged indecency in the VS lingere show.

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> From: jyoung@p…  
> Date: Mon Nov 19, 2001 4:46 pm  
> Subject: Fwd: FCC looks into ABC’s ‘Secret’  
> \> FCC looks into ABC’s ‘Secret’  
> \>  
> \>  
> [http://dailynews.yahoo.com/htx/bpihw/20011118/en/fcc\_looks\_into\_abc\_s\_secret\_\_1.html](http://dailynews.yahoo.com/htx/bpihw/20011118/en/fcc_looks_into_abc_s_secret__1.html)  
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> \>  
> \> Sunday November 18 07:25 PM EST FCC looks into ABC’s ‘Secret’  
> \>  
> \> FCC looks into ABC’s ‘Secret’  
> \>  
> \> By Brooks Boliek  
> \>  
> \> WASHINGTON (The Hollywood Reporter) — ABC’s airing of “The  
> \> Victoria’s Secret Fashion Show” is likely to cause the network more  
> \> than a little discomfort as the federal government has received  
> \> dozens of complaints that the G-string-laced show and its related  
> \> promotions violate broadcast indecency rules.  
> \>  
> \> FCC commissioner Michael Copps told reporters Friday that he has  
> \> received 50 e-mails from different parts of the country complaining  
> \> about the racy show and its promotions. One of the complaints was  
> \> of a more personal nature – Copps’ 27-year-old daughter had a  
> \> complaint about the show.  
> \>  
> \> “She saw it and was upset,” Copps said. “She’s a new mother, and  
> \> when her child gets (to a) TV age, he should see wholesome  
> \> programming.”

[Edited by Eutychus55 on 11-19-2001 at 06:03 PM]

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**Author:** ![Mole](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/9fc348/32.png) [@Mole](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Mole)\
**Post date:** [November 20, 2001, 1:20am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/brief-nudity-nipple/93652/40 "2001-11-20T01:20:42Z")

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I watched some of Blazing Saddles on Comedy Central yesterday (I’m in the U.S.) and was surprised to hear they left in the N-words as well as “faggot”. But they cut out the scene where Harvey Korman rubs the breasts of the mini-statue (at least I think that was how it happened). And they also cut out “shit”. I would have thought most people would find the first two examples more offensive than the two they edited.

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**Author:** ![Fern\_Forest](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/f/71c47a/32.png) [@Fern\_Forest](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Fern_Forest)\
**Post date:** [November 20, 2001, 4:28am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/brief-nudity-nipple/93652/41 "2001-11-20T04:28:19Z")

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I just remembered something that really made me wonder when it first happened.

A few years back there was this guy who made a bet with his friend. The bet involved this MAN getting implants. He then went on “The Man Show” on Comedy Central, basic cable, and bared HIS breasts. The fuzzed them out. Explain that? Male boobs, no sexuality … _furious scratching of head_

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