# Bring Back Our Girls update **URL:** \ **Category:** The BBQ Pit\ **Created:** [May 6, 2015, 8:52pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/bring-back-our-girls-update/719420 "2015-05-06T20:52:20Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 20\ **Page:** 1
**Author:** ![ElvisL1ves](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/e/5daacb/32.png) [@ElvisL1ves](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/ElvisL1ves)\ **Post date:** [May 6, 2015, 8:52pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/bring-back-our-girls-update/719420/1 "2015-05-06T20:52:20Z")
Of the 234 Nigerian women finally rescued from Boko Haram in the Sambisa Forest, [214 are pregnant.](http://zimbabwe-today.com/2015/05/life/214-of-the-234-girls-rescued-in-nigeria-from-boko-haram-are-pregnant/) There’s nothing more I can think of to say. ---
**Author:** ![PunditLisa](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/p/4af34b/32.png) [@PunditLisa](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/PunditLisa)\ **Post date:** [May 6, 2015, 9:31pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/bring-back-our-girls-update/719420/2 "2015-05-06T21:31:50Z")
Well, at least these children won’t be raised by the barbarians who are their fathers. And it’s still great news that these women were finally rescued. ---
**Author:** ![Iggy](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/iggy/32/3364_2.png) [@Iggy](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Iggy)\ **Post date:** [May 6, 2015, 9:32pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/bring-back-our-girls-update/719420/3 "2015-05-06T21:32:54Z")
Let’s hope religious fanaticism is not genetic? ---
**Author:** ![Czarcasm](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/czarcasm/32/4050_2.png) [@Czarcasm](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Czarcasm)\ **Post date:** [May 6, 2015, 9:39pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/bring-back-our-girls-update/719420/4 "2015-05-06T21:39:24Z")
> [@Iggy](#): > > Let’s hope religious fanaticism is not genetic? Let’s hope religious fanaticism doesn’t stop them from being accepted back into their families and neighborhoods because of this. ---
**Author:** ![Baker](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/b/bb73d2/32.png) [@Baker](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Baker)\ **Post date:** [May 6, 2015, 10:31pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/bring-back-our-girls-update/719420/5 "2015-05-06T22:31:19Z")
Okay, this is a really ignorant question, but do the rescued women come from a particular religious group? Are they predominantly Muslim, Christian, or something else? It’s not something I remember reading about. ---
**Author:** ![Inbred\_Mm\_domesticus](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/i/aca169/32.png) [@Inbred\_Mm\_domesticus](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Inbred_Mm_domesticus)\ **Post date:** [May 6, 2015, 10:38pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/bring-back-our-girls-update/719420/6 "2015-05-06T22:38:19Z")
> [@Baker](#): > > Okay, this is a really ignorant question, but do the rescued women come from a particular religious group? Are they predominantly Muslim, Christian, or something else? It’s not something I remember reading about. My guess is they’re Muslim but only because Boko Haram operates in Northern Nigeria and that area of the country is predominantly Muslim. ---
**Author:** ![Musicat](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/musicat/32/20189_2.png) [@Musicat](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Musicat)\ **Post date:** [May 6, 2015, 10:54pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/bring-back-our-girls-update/719420/7 "2015-05-06T22:54:00Z")
> [@ElvisL1ves](#): > > Of the 234 Nigerian women finally rescued from Boko Haram in the Sambisa Forest, [214 are pregnant.](http://zimbabwe-today.com/2015/05/life/214-of-the-234-girls-rescued-in-nigeria-from-boko-haram-are-pregnant/) So now we know why they were _really_ abducted. ---
**Author:** ![Haberdash](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/h/f9ae1b/32.png) [@Haberdash](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Haberdash)\ **Post date:** [May 6, 2015, 10:55pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/bring-back-our-girls-update/719420/8 "2015-05-06T22:55:41Z")
They will return to the average life of a girl in Muslim Nigeria: married by age 12, an 80% chance of being forbidden to attend school, not allowed to leave the house after marriage. [http://sites.davidson.edu/anthro/global/2013/05/17/getting-married-and-seclusion-in-northern-nigeria/](http://sites.davidson.edu/anthro/global/2013/05/17/getting-married-and-seclusion-in-northern-nigeria/) The focus on Boko Haram has obscured the larger reality that Islam in Nigeria, with or without terrorism, is hell for women. ---
**Author:** ![ElvisL1ves](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/e/5daacb/32.png) [@ElvisL1ves](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/ElvisL1ves)\ **Post date:** [May 6, 2015, 10:57pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/bring-back-our-girls-update/719420/9 "2015-05-06T22:57:35Z")
> [@Musicat](#): > > So now we know why they were _really_ abducted. Was it really in question? ---
**Author:** ![ElvisL1ves](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/e/5daacb/32.png) [@ElvisL1ves](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/ElvisL1ves)\ **Post date:** [May 6, 2015, 11:14pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/bring-back-our-girls-update/719420/10 "2015-05-06T23:14:56Z")
> [@Inbred\_Mm\_domesticus](#): > > My guess is they’re Muslim but only because Boko Haram operates in Northern Nigeria and that area of the country is predominantly Muslim. Chibok, the village that was in the news for the most brazen mass kidnapping, is mostly Christian. Boko Haram claimed that the non-Muslims in the group had been forced to convert, whatever that may actually mean. ---
**Author:** ![John\_Mace](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/john_mace/32/185_2.png) [@John\_Mace](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/John_Mace)\ **Post date:** [May 7, 2015, 1:19am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/bring-back-our-girls-update/719420/11 "2015-05-07T01:19:11Z")
> [@Inbred\_Mm\_domesticus](#): > > My guess is they’re Muslim but only because Boko Haram operates in Northern Nigeria and that area of the country is predominantly Muslim. I thought most of the girls and women kidnapped were Christian. Certainly the famous “300” were. What evidence do you have that they are mainly Muslim? ---
**Author:** ![John\_Mace](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/john_mace/32/185_2.png) [@John\_Mace](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/John_Mace)\ **Post date:** [May 7, 2015, 1:25am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/bring-back-our-girls-update/719420/12 "2015-05-07T01:25:31Z")
For some reason, I can’t cut and paste from the OP’s article. But if I read the 1st paragraph, it does’t sound like the article’s title is correct. It seems like the number of pregnant girls are the total “at one of the camps”, not the total from the recently rescued group. Still, it’s a huge tragedy either way, but can someone read that 1st paragraph and tell me if I’m getting it wrong? The wording is hard to understand. ---
**Author:** ![tomndebb](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/t/b9e5f3/32.png) [@tomndebb](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/tomndebb)\ **Post date:** [May 7, 2015, 1:46am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/bring-back-our-girls-update/719420/13 "2015-05-07T01:46:17Z")
> [@John\_Mace](#): > > For some reason, I can’t cut and paste from the OP’s article. But if I read the 1st paragraph, it does’t sound like the article’s title is correct. It seems like the number of pregnant girls are the total “at one of the camps”, not the total from the recently rescued group. > > Still, it’s a huge tragedy either way, but can someone read that 1st paragraph and tell me if I’m getting it wrong? The wording is hard to understand. You are correct. The 214 refers to the recently rescued, among whom “many” are visibly pregnant" while the 234 refers to the number of pregnant women in one of the shelter camps, (that may or may not include those among the recently rescued 214). ---
**Author:** ![Inbred\_Mm\_domesticus](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/i/aca169/32.png) [@Inbred\_Mm\_domesticus](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Inbred_Mm_domesticus)\ **Post date:** [May 7, 2015, 4:59am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/bring-back-our-girls-update/719420/14 "2015-05-07T04:59:59Z")
> [@ElvisL1ves](#): > > Chibok, the village that was in the news for the most brazen mass kidnapping, is mostly Christian. Boko Haram claimed that the non-Muslims in the group had been forced to convert, whatever that may actually mean. > [@John\_Mace](#): > > I thought most of the girls and women kidnapped were Christian. Certainly the famous “300” were. What evidence do you have that they are mainly Muslim? Its just a guess. ---
**Author:** ![Haberdash](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/h/f9ae1b/32.png) [@Haberdash](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Haberdash)\ **Post date:** [May 7, 2015, 5:06am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/bring-back-our-girls-update/719420/15 "2015-05-07T05:06:03Z")
To just say it’s “Christian” is kind of an oversimplification, but then again so is the whole narrative of “everything was fine until Boko Haram came along.” ---
**Author:** ![AHunter3](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/ahunter3/32/368_2.png) [@AHunter3](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/AHunter3)\ **Post date:** [May 7, 2015, 2:54pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/bring-back-our-girls-update/719420/16 "2015-05-07T14:54:13Z")
They should all be extended the option of abortion, and (independently of that) the opportunity to resume their studies. ---
**Author:** ![Musicat](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/musicat/32/20189_2.png) [@Musicat](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Musicat)\ **Post date:** [May 7, 2015, 3:08pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/bring-back-our-girls-update/719420/17 "2015-05-07T15:08:12Z")
> [@ElvisL1ves](#): > > Was it really in question? The publicized reason for abduction was that they were girls who were being educated, something the more militant muslim groups think shouldn’t be done. Cf. [Malala.](https://www.google.com/search?hl=en&gl=us&tbm=nws&authuser=0&q=malama#hl=en&gl=us&authuser=0&tbm=nws&q=malala) ---
**Author:** ![andros](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/a/e480ec/32.png) [@andros](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/andros)\ **Post date:** [May 7, 2015, 3:14pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/bring-back-our-girls-update/719420/18 "2015-05-07T15:14:44Z")
> [@Musicat](#): > > The publicized reason for abduction was that they were girls who were being educated, something the more militant muslim groups think shouldn’t be done. Cf. [Malala.](https://www.google.com/search?hl=en&gl=us&tbm=nws&authuser=0&q=malama#hl=en&gl=us&authuser=0&tbm=nws&q=malala) Yup, it’s not like Boko Haram has made a secret of being, I dunno, [opposed to “Western education.”](http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Boko_Haram) ---
**Author:** ![Procrustus](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/procrustus/32/2994_2.png) [@Procrustus](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Procrustus)\ **Post date:** [May 7, 2015, 3:16pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/bring-back-our-girls-update/719420/19 "2015-05-07T15:16:24Z")
> [@Musicat](#): > > The publicized reason for abduction was that they were girls who were being educated, something the more militant muslim groups think shouldn’t be done. Cf. [Malala.](https://www.google.com/search?hl=en&gl=us&tbm=nws&authuser=0&q=malama#hl=en&gl=us&authuser=0&tbm=nws&q=malala) I’m not following why that implies the abduction wasn’t real? I never saw anything indicating it may have not been real. ---
**Author:** ![El\_Kabong](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/el_kabong/32/496_2.png) [@El\_Kabong](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/El_Kabong)\ **Post date:** [May 7, 2015, 3:57pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/bring-back-our-girls-update/719420/20 "2015-05-07T15:57:59Z")
> [@Procrustus](#): > > I’m not following why that implies the abduction wasn’t real? I never saw anything indicating it may have not been real. I think **Elvis** was saying, “Was the reason for the abductions really in question?”, not that there was some question as to whether they really happened. [Next page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/bring-back-our-girls-update/719420.md?page=2)