# Bring out the gimp? (Pulp Fiction spoilers) **URL:** \ **Category:** Cafe Society\ **Created:** [April 6, 2006, 5:03am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/bring-out-the-gimp-pulp-fiction-spoilers/351533 "2006-04-06T05:03:32Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 20\ **Page:** 1
**Author:** ![Thrillhouse15](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/t/ad7895/32.png) [@Thrillhouse15](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Thrillhouse15)\ **Post date:** [April 6, 2006, 5:03am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/bring-out-the-gimp-pulp-fiction-spoilers/351533/1 "2006-04-06T05:03:32Z")
So, I’m watching Pulp Fiction tonight, and the Zed/Gimp scene comes on. I started wondering: is this scene purely from the mind of Quentin Tarentino, or does stuff like this actually exist? I mean, are there really guys in this country who would capture a couple random other guys just to tie them up, beat them and sodomize them? Especially in the middle of Los Angeles. And what’s the deal with The Gimp? Is that some other guy they captured and keep in a box for their own occasional fun? Or is he somehow a willing participant in Zed and Spider’s deviant lifestyle? And most importantly, it’s been 12 years. Do I still have to point out there are spoilers in this post? ---
**Author:** ![Incubus](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/i/c68b51/32.png) [@Incubus](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Incubus)\ **Post date:** [April 6, 2006, 6:09am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/bring-out-the-gimp-pulp-fiction-spoilers/351533/2 "2006-04-06T06:09:57Z")
I can’t help you with this question, but it kind of reminds me of folks that play very oddball roles in movies. Can you imagine going in to a job interview? “Do you have any acting experience?” “Yeah, I played The Gimp in Pulp Fiction” :dubious: “…We’ll call you.” ---
**Author:** ![Scissorjack](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/c67d28/32.png) [@Scissorjack](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Scissorjack)\ **Post date:** [April 6, 2006, 11:48am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/bring-out-the-gimp-pulp-fiction-spoilers/351533/3 "2006-04-06T11:48:31Z")
> [@Incubus](#): > > “Do you have any acting experience?” > > “Yeah, I played The Gimp in Pulp Fiction” “Huh. That’s the seventh one this week.” Seriously, how could they _tell_? ---
**Author:** ![Sevastopol](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/cdc98d/32.png) [@Sevastopol](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Sevastopol)\ **Post date:** [April 6, 2006, 11:51am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/bring-out-the-gimp-pulp-fiction-spoilers/351533/4 "2006-04-06T11:51:25Z")
While we are with Pulp Fiction, why does ‘the Wolf’ write “Dean Martin” in his notebook? My apology for the digression. ---
**Author:** ![cbawlmer](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/c/71e660/32.png) [@cbawlmer](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/cbawlmer)\ **Post date:** [April 6, 2006, 1:28pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/bring-out-the-gimp-pulp-fiction-spoilers/351533/5 "2006-04-06T13:28:52Z")
> [@Sevastopol](#): > > While we are with Pulp Fiction, why does ‘the Wolf’ write “Dean Martin” in his notebook? My apology for the digression. I don’t think he does. However, “Dead Marvin” would look mighty similar when written. Does he write that? I know he writes something like: Jules = Black; Vincent = White; One body - no head. ---
**Author:** ![Jacob\_Silj](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/j/e9c0ed/32.png) [@Jacob\_Silj](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Jacob_Silj)\ **Post date:** [April 6, 2006, 1:34pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/bring-out-the-gimp-pulp-fiction-spoilers/351533/6 "2006-04-06T13:34:16Z")
Actually, a better way to phrase the OP might be “What movie did Tarantino see that has a scene with two guys and a gimp in it that inspired him to write a similar scene in **Pulp Fiction** ” 😉 ---
**Author:** ![Equipoise](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/equipoise/32/151_2.png) [@Equipoise](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Equipoise)\ **Post date:** [April 6, 2006, 1:38pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/bring-out-the-gimp-pulp-fiction-spoilers/351533/7 "2006-04-06T13:38:04Z")
> [@Thrillhouse15](#): > > So, I’m watching Pulp Fiction tonight, and the Zed/Gimp scene comes on. I started wondering: is this scene purely from the mind of Quentin Tarentino, or does stuff like this actually exist? I mean, are there really guys in this country who would capture a couple random other guys just to tie them up, beat them and sodomize them? Especially in the middle of Los Angeles. > > And what’s the deal with The Gimp? Is that some other guy they captured and keep in a box for their own occasional fun? Or is he somehow a willing participant in Zed and Spider’s deviant lifestyle? You’re a very sheltered person, aren’t you? Stay that way, you’ll sleep better at night. ---
**Author:** ![Equipoise](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/equipoise/32/151_2.png) [@Equipoise](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Equipoise)\ **Post date:** [April 6, 2006, 1:44pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/bring-out-the-gimp-pulp-fiction-spoilers/351533/8 "2006-04-06T13:44:55Z")
Oooh, that sounded snarkier than I intended. It was meant to be kind, in a “I wouldn’t pursue this if you don’t want to have nightmares” kind of way. I don’t know a whole lot about the World of Violent Kink, but I know enough to know that there are things people do to themselves and each other that I don’t WANT to know about. _shudder_ ---
**Author:** ![RealityChuck](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/realitychuck/32/195_2.png) [@RealityChuck](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/RealityChuck)\ **Post date:** [April 6, 2006, 1:56pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/bring-out-the-gimp-pulp-fiction-spoilers/351533/9 "2006-04-06T13:56:25Z")
> [@Thrillhouse15](#): > > So, I’m watching Pulp Fiction tonight, and the Zed/Gimp scene comes on. I started wondering: is this scene purely from the mind of Quentin Tarentino, or does stuff like this actually exist? I mean, are there really guys in this country who would capture a couple random other guys just to tie them up, beat them and sodomize them? Especially in the middle of Los Angeles. Read the name of the movie again, especially the second word. Pulp fiction (lower case) was never about realism. > [@](#): > > And what’s the deal with The Gimp? Is that some other guy they captured and keep in a box for their own occasional fun? Or is he somehow a willing participant in Zed and Spider’s deviant lifestyle? My read is that he’s probably willing. But it really doesn’t matter, does it? ---
**Author:** ![Dunderman](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/ecb155/32.png) [@Dunderman](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Dunderman)\ **Post date:** [April 6, 2006, 2:05pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/bring-out-the-gimp-pulp-fiction-spoilers/351533/10 "2006-04-06T14:05:44Z")
> [@Thrillhouse15](#): > > And what’s the deal with The Gimp? Is that some other guy they captured and keep in a box for their own occasional fun? Or is he somehow a willing participant in Zed and Spider’s deviant lifestyle? I’ve always seen him as a willing participant. Otherwise, why wouldn’t he just release Butch so they could escape together? Why would he attempt to warn the rapists when Butch gets loose? ---
**Author:** ![phungi](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/phungi/32/395_2.png) [@phungi](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/phungi)\ **Post date:** [April 6, 2006, 2:13pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/bring-out-the-gimp-pulp-fiction-spoilers/351533/11 "2006-04-06T14:13:44Z")
there is absolutely no market for this type of stuff… [http://images.google.com/images?svnum=30&hl=en&lr=lang\_en&c2coff=1&client=safari&rls=en&q=bondage+rubber+suit&btnG=Search](http://images.google.com/images?svnum=30&hl=en&lr=lang_en&c2coff=1&client=safari&rls=en&q=bondage+rubber+suit&btnG=Search) ---
**Author:** ![middleman](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/e9a140/32.png) [@middleman](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/middleman)\ **Post date:** [April 6, 2006, 2:22pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/bring-out-the-gimp-pulp-fiction-spoilers/351533/12 "2006-04-06T14:22:10Z")
> [@Priceguy](#): > > I’ve always seen him as a willing participant. Otherwise, why wouldn’t he just release Butch so they could escape together? Why would he attempt to warn the rapists when Butch gets loose? Stockholm Syndrome. ---
**Author:** ![Hampshire](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/hampshire/32/4887_2.png) [@Hampshire](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Hampshire)\ **Post date:** [April 6, 2006, 2:22pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/bring-out-the-gimp-pulp-fiction-spoilers/351533/13 "2006-04-06T14:22:51Z")
This was on TV the other day and even though I love this movie, have seen it a dozen times, and have it on DVD, it was the first time I noticed the Buddy Holly waiter at Jackrabbit Slim’s. “Hey, that’s Steve Buscemi!” :smack: :smack: :smack: (Don’t know why I never caught that before) ---
**Author:** ![Silentgoldfish](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/e36b37/32.png) [@Silentgoldfish](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Silentgoldfish)\ **Post date:** [April 6, 2006, 2:32pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/bring-out-the-gimp-pulp-fiction-spoilers/351533/14 "2006-04-06T14:32:41Z")
> [@RealityChuck](#): > > Read the name of the movie again, especially the second word. > > Pulp fiction (lower case) was never about realism. > > My read is that he’s probably willing. But it really doesn’t matter, does it? Yes, it’s fiction. Why discuss it at all? :dubious: ---
**Author:** ![Duke\_of\_Rat](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/ad7895/32.png) [@Duke\_of\_Rat](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Duke_of_Rat)\ **Post date:** [April 6, 2006, 2:50pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/bring-out-the-gimp-pulp-fiction-spoilers/351533/15 "2006-04-06T14:50:56Z")
> [@middleman](#): > > Stockholm Syndrome. As in Stockholm, Finland. ---
**Author:** ![Hypno-Toad](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/h/b2d939/32.png) [@Hypno-Toad](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Hypno-Toad)\ **Post date:** [April 6, 2006, 2:57pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/bring-out-the-gimp-pulp-fiction-spoilers/351533/16 "2006-04-06T14:57:49Z")
> [@Hampshire](#): > > This was on TV the other day and even though I love this movie, have seen it a dozen times, and have it on DVD, it was the first time I noticed the Buddy Holly waiter at Jackrabbit Slim’s. “Hey, that’s Steve Buscemi!” :smack: :smack: :smack: > (Don’t know why I never caught that before) It’s interesting the way they edited that scene on TV to almost completely remove the gimp. I wondered about it since ithe leathered-up slave gimp is not explicit per se, just disturbing. And it is especially disturbing that YES, there are freaky folk out there that do this kind of thing. And you might be acquainted with some of them without ever suspecting… ---
**Author:** ![RickJay](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/r/bb73d2/32.png) [@RickJay](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/RickJay)\ **Post date:** [April 6, 2006, 3:12pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/bring-out-the-gimp-pulp-fiction-spoilers/351533/17 "2006-04-06T15:12:09Z")
> [@Case Sensitive](#): > > “Huh. That’s the seventh one this week.” Seriously, how could they _tell_? It’s a credited role. 🙂 Stephen Hibbert. > **[Stephen Hibbert - IMDb](https://www.imdb.com/name/nm0382512/)** > > Stephen Hibbert, Actor: Pulp Fiction. Stephen Hibbert was born on September 19, 1960 in Fleetwood, England as Stephen Anthony Hibbert. He is known for his work on Pulp Fiction (1994), Austin Powers: The Spy Who Shagged Me (1999) and The Cat in the... ---
**Author:** ![Biffy\_the\_Elephant\_Shrew](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/b/e47c2d/32.png) [@Biffy\_the\_Elephant\_Shrew](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Biffy_the_Elephant_Shrew)\ **Post date:** [April 6, 2006, 3:56pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/bring-out-the-gimp-pulp-fiction-spoilers/351533/18 "2006-04-06T15:56:33Z")
> [@Duke of Rat](#): > > As in Stockholm, Finland. You’ve been watching too much “Die Hard.” “Stockholm” is the correct name of the syndrome; “Helsinki” is the misnomer. ---
**Author:** ![Duke\_of\_Rat](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/ad7895/32.png) [@Duke\_of\_Rat](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Duke_of_Rat)\ **Post date:** [April 6, 2006, 4:28pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/bring-out-the-gimp-pulp-fiction-spoilers/351533/19 "2006-04-06T16:28:00Z")
> [@Biffy the Elephant Shrew](#): > > You’ve been watching too much “Die Hard.” “Stockholm” is the correct name of the syndrome; “Helsinki” is the misnomer. Yeah, it was supposed to be a joke, a play on the newscaster who got it all wrong in “Die Hard” (even though the movie used the incorrect name for the syndrome, he still got it wrong). ---
**Author:** ![Biffy\_the\_Elephant\_Shrew](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/b/e47c2d/32.png) [@Biffy\_the\_Elephant\_Shrew](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Biffy_the_Elephant_Shrew)\ **Post date:** [April 6, 2006, 4:40pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/bring-out-the-gimp-pulp-fiction-spoilers/351533/20 "2006-04-06T16:40:04Z")
> [@Duke of Rat](#): > > Yeah, it was supposed to be a joke Ah. Sorry, I’m suffering from Whoosh Syndrome. [Next page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/bring-out-the-gimp-pulp-fiction-spoilers/351533.md?page=2)