# Brit Dope 2003 Results

**URL:** <https://boards.straightdope.com/t/brit-dope-2003-results/216238>\
**Category:** Miscellaneous and Personal Stuff I Must Share\
**Created:** [December 1, 2003, 10:33am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/brit-dope-2003-results/216238 "2003-12-01T10:33:24Z")\
**Posts on this page:** 20\
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**Author:** ![Eva\_Luna](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/e/e495f1/32.png) [@Eva\_Luna](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Eva_Luna)\
**Post date:** [December 11, 2003, 12:29am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/brit-dope-2003-results/216238/141 "2003-12-11T00:29:08Z")

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[bump]

Just got home, jet lagged as hell, and trying to fend off the ardent advances of my attention-starved cat, the noble Sir Galahad. With any luck, I’ll be able to stay up until 8 pm…work tomorrow should be absolutely hilarious.

So without further ado, the recipe some of you have been waiting for, from Gil Marks’ _The World of Jewish Cooking: More than 500 Traditional Recipes from Alsace to Yemen_ (it’s never steered me wrong so far), p. 326 (I’m tired, so you’re on your own for any necessary metric conversions):

Rugelach (Ashkenazic Pastry Crescents): 32 large, 48 medium, or 64 small cookies

In 1793, Austrian bakers, in celebration of the lifting of a lengthy Turkish siege of Vienna, shaped various baked goods into crescents (kipferin), the emblem on the Ottoman flag. Rugelach (“little twists” in Yiddish) and yeast rugelach - also called Pressburger kipplach and Pozsonyi kifli - are all delicious examples of Austrian crescents. (This is also the origin of the croissant.) Americans seem to agree, for it has recently become very popular over here…[snip]

Dough:

1 cup (2 sticks or 8 oz.) butter, softened  
8 oz. cream cheese, softened (or 2/3 cup sour cream and 1 egg yolk)  
2 tablespoons sugar  
1/4 teaspoon salt  
2 cups all-purpose flour

Filling:  
1 cup finely chopped walnuts or pecans [IMNSHO walnuts are far more authentic]  
1/2 cup dried currants or raisins (optional)  
1/2 cup granulated sugar or brown sugar  
1 teaspoon ground cinnamon  
About 1 cup apricot, raspberry, or strawbery jam, orange marmalade, or 1/4 cup butter, melted [IMHO apricot and raspberry are most authentic, although you could also use other jams found in Central/Eastern Europe, such as plum, cherry, currant, etc.)

1. To make the dough: Beat together the butter, cream cheese, and sugar until light and fluffy. Add the salt. Gradually beat in the flour.
2. Divide into 4 equal portions, form into balls, wrap, and refrigerate overnight. (For quicker use, place in the freezer for about 1 hr. The dough can be frozen for up to 4 months.) Let the dough stand at room temperature until workable.
3. Position a rack in the upper third of the oven. Preheat the oven to 375 degrees.
4. On a lightly floured surface or pieces of waxed paper, roll out each piece of the dough into a 1/8" thick round about 15" in diameter.
5. To make the filling: Combine the nuts, currants or raisins, if desired, sugar, and cinnamon. Brush the dough rounds lightly with the jam, marmalade, butter, or margarine, leaving a 1/2" border around the edges. Sprinkle evenly with the nut mixture.
6. For large rugelach, cut each round into 8 wedges; for medium, cut into 12 wedges; for small, cut into 16 wedges. Roll up the edges from the wide end toward the point, pinching the point to seal. Gently bend to form crescents. (The rugelach can be prepared ahead to this point and frozen for several months. Defrost before baking.)
7. Place the rugelach on ungreased baking sheets. [My tip: grease the baking sheets, and prepare to scrape off baked-on caramelized jam anyway.] Bake until golden brown, about 20 minutes. Let the cookies stand until firm, about 1 minute, then transfer to a wire rack and let cool completely. Store in an airtight container at room temperature or in the freezer.

I’m not going to type out all the varioations, but one is worth bothering with…

Chocolate Rugelach [as if you needed to add to something that can already harden arteries at 50 paces]  
Substitute 1/2 cup unsweetened cocoa powder for the cinnamon and brush the dough rounds with the butter or margarine (not the jam).

Bon Appetit! or as my grandmother would say, Essen!

More later, except that I just have to add that the adorable 6-year-old daughter of my friends in France spent my entire stay in her pink My Little Pony gym shoes, or as the French call them, Mon Petit Poney…my friends couldn’t understand why I kept looking at her feet and cracking up. It’s all your fault…

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**Author:** ![Bibliovore](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/b/7ba0ec/32.png) [@Bibliovore](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Bibliovore)\
**Post date:** [December 11, 2003, 3:11am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/brit-dope-2003-results/216238/142 "2003-12-11T03:11:45Z")

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> \*Originally posted by ems \*  
> \*\*Can I just mention that **bibliovore** is fit.
> 
> Thankyou \*\*

And can _I_ just mention that you made my week! 😃😃😃

Thanks, **ems**!

BTW, I’m having a great time here in NYC - I’ll fill you lot in as soon as I’m back in ye olde englande…

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**Author:** ![Angua](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/a/8baadc/32.png) [@Angua](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Angua)\
**Post date:** [December 11, 2003, 10:30am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/brit-dope-2003-results/216238/143 "2003-12-11T10:30:23Z")

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**Eva** - I am so going to try that!

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**Author:** ![Heloise](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/h/e36b37/32.png) [@Heloise](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Heloise)\
**Post date:** [December 12, 2003, 7:52pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/brit-dope-2003-results/216238/144 "2003-12-12T19:52:51Z")

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Wow.

I’m so sad I missed that. It looks like it was a great time.

However, considering how potent the “apple juice” was last time, I’ve no doubt I would have gotten into lots of trouble combining that, and the icing you guys had at this one.

Ah, well, perhaps at an Amsterdam dopefest. 🙂

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**Author:** ![Coldfire](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/c/a587f6/32.png) [@Coldfire](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Coldfire)\
**Post date:** [December 13, 2003, 3:45am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/brit-dope-2003-results/216238/145 "2003-12-13T03:45:00Z")

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> \*Originally posted by Steve Wright \*  
> **I’ve been dieting for quite a while now, and have consequently declined in size from Alarmingly Vast And Spherical to merely Extra-Large Economy Size.**

I knew I wasn’t crazy. Good on ya, mate!

Oh man, is that American chick downing pints of cider at an alarming rate again? 😃

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**Author:** ![Angua](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/a/8baadc/32.png) [@Angua](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Angua)\
**Post date:** [December 13, 2003, 10:40am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/brit-dope-2003-results/216238/146 "2003-12-13T10:40:47Z")

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> \*Originally posted by Heloise \*  
> \*\*  
> However, considering how potent the “apple juice” was last time, I’ve no doubt I would have gotten into lots of trouble combining that, and the icing you guys had at this one.  
> \*\*

The icing was _fun_ 😃

**Tir** - where’s the rest of the piccies? And **garius’** amusing account of the day?

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**Author:** ![ianzin](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/i/ed655f/32.png) [@ianzin](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/ianzin)\
**Post date:** [December 14, 2003, 12:04am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/brit-dope-2003-results/216238/147 "2003-12-14T00:04:43Z")

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> \*Originally posted by Angua \*  
> **And garius’ amusing account of the day?**

You have to make allowances. He’s a civil servant after all. We all know that if you take a sloth, hit it over the head with a frying pan and dip it in liquid nitrogen, it will still move faster and show a more vigorous attitude to life than the British civil service!

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**Author:** ![Angua](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/a/8baadc/32.png) [@Angua](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Angua)\
**Post date:** [December 14, 2003, 12:14pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/brit-dope-2003-results/216238/148 "2003-12-14T12:14:53Z")

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> \*Originally posted by ianzin \*  
> \*\*You have to make allowances. He’s a civil servant after all. We all know that if you take a sloth, hit it over the head with a frying pan and dip it in liquid nitrogen, it will still move faster and show a more vigorous attitude to life than the British civil service! \*\*

This is true. However, he did make mention on NADS the other day (at the beginning of the week, when the SDMB was down) that he had made a start on it, so maybe he’s just writing it a word a day. Or is that too fast a rate for the civil service? 🙂

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**Author:** ![Tir\_Tinuviel](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/t/bc79bd/32.png) [@Tir\_Tinuviel](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Tir_Tinuviel)\
**Post date:** [December 14, 2003, 3:31pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/brit-dope-2003-results/216238/149 "2003-12-14T15:31:48Z")

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> \*Originally posted by Angua \*  
> \*\*The icing was _fun_ 😃
> 
> **Tir** - where’s the rest of the piccies? And **garius’** amusing account of the day? \*\*

I’ve only got the same piccies that were on **Ianzin** s site, if he lets me steal them, and **Garius** still has to send me the second half of the thing.

Been a desperately busy bunny recently, but I’ll see what I can get done during the week.

🙂

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**Author:** ![bonzer](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/b/45deac/32.png) [@bonzer](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/bonzer)\
**Post date:** [December 15, 2003, 12:02am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/brit-dope-2003-results/216238/150 "2003-12-15T00:02:16Z")

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> \*Originally posted by Angua \*  
> Or is that too fast a rate for the civil service?

Given the rate you seemed to be writing those papers at … 😉

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**Author:** ![Angua](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/a/8baadc/32.png) [@Angua](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Angua)\
**Post date:** [December 15, 2003, 8:53am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/brit-dope-2003-results/216238/151 "2003-12-15T08:53:14Z")

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> \*Originally posted by bonzer \*  
> \*\*Given the rate you seemed to be writing those papers at … 😉 \*\*

Picky picky. 😉

I might have submitted the first one before Christmas. If my pesky collaborators actually agree on something. Still, its 14 pages long at the moment, so I think I’m doing better than **garius**. 😛

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**Author:** ![Hostile\_Dialect](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/h/e495f1/32.png) [@Hostile\_Dialect](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Hostile_Dialect)\
**Post date:** [December 15, 2003, 9:12am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/brit-dope-2003-results/216238/152 "2003-12-15T09:12:16Z")

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> \*Originally posted by Angua \*  
> \*\*Got drunk. (snip) Someone got a picture of my arse again. Got more drunk. (snip) my bribes of cookies and cleavage ☹
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> Then we started playing with writing icing, (snip) Someone iced my chest though. (snip) I think then someone got pictures of cleavage, and of me attempting to change tops (with myself this time) since the one I was wearing had icing around the neckline.\*\*

I’m _so_ moving to England.

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**Author:** ![garius](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/g/e19b73/32.png) [@garius](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/garius)\
**Post date:** [December 15, 2003, 10:33am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/brit-dope-2003-results/216238/153 "2003-12-15T10:33:25Z")

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**garius** back off people - i’ve been busy.[sub]honest[/sub]

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**Author:** ![garius](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/g/e19b73/32.png) [@garius](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/garius)\
**Post date:** [December 15, 2003, 10:34am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/brit-dope-2003-results/216238/154 "2003-12-15T10:34:32Z")

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blimey - don’t know where that random “garius” came from - i certainly didn’t type it.

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**Author:** ![paulberserker](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/p/c4cdca/32.png) [@paulberserker](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/paulberserker)\
**Post date:** [December 15, 2003, 10:45am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/brit-dope-2003-results/216238/155 "2003-12-15T10:45:47Z")

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**paulberserker** don’t they just pop up everywhere.

hmm, my drunken tomfoolery is beginning to get on top of me, methinks. I fell down the stairs at TCR on saturday night and now have a black/brown/purple map of Africa on my forearm, not to mention bruising all down my left side and a bump over my eyebrow. youch!

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**Author:** ![Angua](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/a/8baadc/32.png) [@Angua](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Angua)\
**Post date:** [December 15, 2003, 10:47am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/brit-dope-2003-results/216238/156 "2003-12-15T10:47:57Z")

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> \*Originally posted by paulberserker \*  
> \*\*  
> hmm, my drunken tomfoolery is beginning to get on top of me, methinks. I fell down the stairs at TCR on saturday night and now have a black/brown/purple map of Africa on my forearm, not to mention bruising all down my left side and a bump over my eyebrow. youch! \*\*

Bwahahaha!!! Can’t laugh too much though - I appear to have a huge bruise on my side from our Christmas dinner/party on Thursday. Darned if I know where its come from.

I have actually been working hard as well…

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**Author:** ![paulberserker](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/p/c4cdca/32.png) [@paulberserker](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/paulberserker)\
**Post date:** [December 15, 2003, 10:52am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/brit-dope-2003-results/216238/157 "2003-12-15T10:52:07Z")

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I believe the term is UDIs – Unidentified Drinking Injuries.

The problem being this is only going to get worse as we get closer to Xmas and I meet up with my equally alcoholic friends in Leeds, as well as getting through my works do on wednesday.  
Free Bar?! Its the enemy that comes disguised as a friend!

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**Author:** ![Angua](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/a/8baadc/32.png) [@Angua](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Angua)\
**Post date:** [December 15, 2003, 10:53am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/brit-dope-2003-results/216238/158 "2003-12-15T10:53:44Z")

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> \*Originally posted by paulberserker \*  
> \*\*I believe the term is UDIs – Unidentified Drinking Injuries.
> 
> \*\*

Indeed it is. Hey, at least you didn’t spend a portion of Friday night dancing the Macerena, _whilst sober_.

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**Author:** ![garius](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/g/e19b73/32.png) [@garius](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/garius)\
**Post date:** [December 15, 2003, 11:12am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/brit-dope-2003-results/216238/159 "2003-12-15T11:12:39Z")

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now thats just wrong :eek:

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**Author:** ![Angua](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/a/8baadc/32.png) [@Angua](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Angua)\
**Post date:** [December 15, 2003, 11:15am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/brit-dope-2003-results/216238/160 "2003-12-15T11:15:59Z")

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> \*Originally posted by garius \*  
> \*\*now thats just wrong :eek: \*\*

Tell me about it. It was the mosque’s Brownie and Guide pack’s 20th birthday celebration. I’m involved tangentially, but the current leader (our Brown Owl) is attempting to get me warranted, but its going to involve a lot more training than I have time to put in. Anyway, we were at the birthday party, and were playing pass the parcel. I swear they deliberately stopped the music at me, and I ended up having to do the forfeit, which was to dance the Macerena with the Guides. Heh. I showed them a thing or two. 🙂

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