# Brit Dope Winter 2003

**URL:** <https://boards.straightdope.com/t/brit-dope-winter-2003/204981>\
**Category:** Miscellaneous and Personal Stuff I Must Share\
**Created:** [October 1, 2003, 9:07pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/brit-dope-winter-2003/204981 "2003-10-01T21:07:44Z")\
**Posts on this page:** 20\
**Page:** 43

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**Author:** ![Angua](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/a/8baadc/32.png) [@Angua](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Angua)\
**Post date:** [November 22, 2003, 10:44am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/brit-dope-winter-2003/204981/841 "2003-11-22T10:44:18Z")

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> \*Originally posted by Eva Luna \*  
> \*\*  
> See y’all soon! Apricot/walnut rugelach? Raspberry? Chocolate? Or all of the above, time permitting? \*\*

The raspberry sounds nice, as does the apricot/walnut. Hey - between us, we could provide food from all five food groups - it’d be a healthy Londope 🙂

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> **Are you sure we’re not expected?**

Well, I haven’t made a booking for us. Although, with the range of activites they do, its almost as if they are expecting us. 😃

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**Author:** ![confessorknight](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/c/e9a140/32.png) [@confessorknight](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/confessorknight)\
**Post date:** [November 22, 2003, 2:41pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/brit-dope-winter-2003/204981/842 "2003-11-22T14:41:59Z")

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As we are now only a week away may I suggest we start finalising plans for an initial meeting-place.

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**Author:** ![Angua](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/a/8baadc/32.png) [@Angua](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Angua)\
**Post date:** [November 22, 2003, 4:33pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/brit-dope-winter-2003/204981/843 "2003-11-22T16:33:56Z")

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> \*Originally posted by confessorknight \*  
> \*\*As we are now only a week away may I suggest we start finalising plans for an initial meeting-place. \*\*

_Thinks of organised Dopers_

KABOOM! _brain explodes_

And now, I am going to offer a suggestion, yes I am going to make a useful, and coherent comment…

How about 1pm, under the big clock at Waterloo Station?

Cause its dead easy for me to get to it from Euston.

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**Author:** ![ianzin](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/i/ed655f/32.png) [@ianzin](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/ianzin)\
**Post date:** [November 22, 2003, 7:15pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/brit-dope-winter-2003/204981/844 "2003-11-22T19:15:17Z")

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**Arrangements for the LonDope, Saturday Nov 29th 2003.**

**Meeting:** assemble any time 12.30-1pm on the main concourse at Charing Cross Station, so that by 1pm we’re ready to find a pub and commence the First Session. (Garius has special responsibility for meeting Angua and helping her and her comestibles to find us).

**First session:** We will try the following pubs, in order, until we find one acceptable:

The Chandos. corner of St. Martin’s Lane and William IV Street. Nice, almost certainly over-crowded.

The Imperial. 5 Leicester Street, just off Leicester Square, to the left of the Empire Cinema (if facing the Empire). Should be a little less crowded.

The Comedy. Oxendon Street (same street as Comedy Store, but no connection). Nice enough, should be a good bet at that time of day.

The Three Crowns. Babmaes Street. Last-ditch option. Empty-ish on Sats because it’s out of the way.

Those who want to can wander off to go shopping or pursue culcha as and when they wish.

**Second Session**. At around 6-6.30pm, those who do not want to go somewhere specifically for food will relocate to The Silver Cross, on Whitehall. See below for directions.

Those who do want to go somewhere for communal eats… we have a choice. I’ll put it to the vote here on this thread until Wednesday 26th Nov. I need to know preferences and numbers before Thursday, when I’ll phone and make the actual booking.

**Option 1.** The Mongolian Barbeque, 12 Maiden Lane, 020 7379 7722. If you haven’t been, it’s great fun. You select your own barbeque ingredients from a vast selection of meats, fish, sauces and veg, which they cook for you on a vast hotplate while you wait a few minutes. You can go back as often as you like (I think). Good fun for a large-ish group.

**Option 2.** Tale of India, 19 New Row, Covent Garden. 020 7240 5348. Nothing special, just yer average London curry place serving up all the usual stuff. It’s the only one in the area that’s a suitable size, and they’re willing to accommodate us.

After we’ve eaten, we’ll re-join the others at the Silver Cross for the Gyrate Mega Quiz.

**The Silver Cross** is easy to find. First find Trafalgar Square. One of the streets leading South from Tr. Sq is called Whitehall. A handy landmark is a theatre called The Whitehall Theatre (what are the odds?) currently showing ‘The Rat Pack’. Silver Cross is more or less opposite this theatre. Also easy to reach from Charing X Stn. Exit station, turn left down Strand, cross over Northumberland Ave, go round corner occupied by ‘Europa Food & Wine’, you’re now on Whitehall.

The Silver Cross does very good pub food which can be ordered any time.

That’s it.

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Maps. Furriners may want to get a handy central London street map (on sale everywhere) but online maps can be found here:

[http://www.streetmap.co.uk/](http://www.streetmap.co.uk/) . Ch X station is on a big London street called The Strand. Enter ‘Strand’ and check the ‘London Street’ option. Then take the ‘WC2’ option.

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Contact numbers. Email me via my profile and you can have my mobile phone number for use in emergency only. If others don’t mind giving out their phone nbrs, that might be nice.

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Don’t forget: I need preferences and numbers for Option 1 or Option 2 before Thursday!

I look forward to seeing you all there. If anyone criticises my organisational capabilities or logistical flair, I will ask **Tir Tinuviel** to bite you. Let’s hope the weather is nicer than it was today (Sat 22nd) when it was dark, cold, wet and windy.

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**Author:** ![Angua](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/a/8baadc/32.png) [@Angua](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Angua)\
**Post date:** [November 22, 2003, 7:31pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/brit-dope-winter-2003/204981/845 "2003-11-22T19:31:06Z")

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Foodwise, I’m easy with either option - wherever the most people want to go, or even stay in the pub. Yes, I know its not helpful, but hey.

If people email me, they can have my number. Which will only be useful once we’re in a big group and you want to find out where we are. If you get lost, I’m probably one of the last people you want to call! 🙂

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**Author:** ![Eva\_Luna](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/e/e495f1/32.png) [@Eva\_Luna](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Eva_Luna)\
**Post date:** [November 22, 2003, 8:13pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/brit-dope-winter-2003/204981/846 "2003-11-22T20:13:15Z")

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I vote for Indian, but will happily go elsewhere if that’s the majority consensus. Those of us who have survived late Soviet dorm food aren’t fussy…

I will e-mail \*\*Angua \*\* for her mobile phone; I’m pretty decent at finding my way around, but if she says she isn’t, who am I to argue? Anyone else who volunteers to share mobile numbers will be greatly appreciated. I’d share mine, but as previously mentioned, it won’t work in the UK because of different technical standards. So I will have to see if there are any pay phones left in London; they are getting scarcer by the day here.

Looking forward to seeing you all! By this time next week, I hope you will all be trying your first rugelach!

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**Author:** ![confessorknight](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/c/e9a140/32.png) [@confessorknight](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/confessorknight)\
**Post date:** [November 22, 2003, 8:31pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/brit-dope-winter-2003/204981/847 "2003-11-22T20:31:35Z")

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As far as food goes i’ll be more han happy with any of the options offered(can you tell I don’t eat out much?)  
If any one is needing my mobile No e-mail me (or posswibly **Tir** if she hasn’t wiped it).

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**Author:** ![confessorknight](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/c/e9a140/32.png) [@confessorknight](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/confessorknight)\
**Post date:** [November 22, 2003, 8:39pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/brit-dope-winter-2003/204981/848 "2003-11-22T20:39:30Z")

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I just realised that doesn’t count as a vote so I’ll go with whatever is the majority option.

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**Author:** ![SciFiSam](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/47e85d/32.png) [@SciFiSam](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/SciFiSam)\
**Post date:** [November 22, 2003, 8:57pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/brit-dope-winter-2003/204981/849 "2003-11-22T20:57:30Z")

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I don’t care where everyone else wants to go, I want Mongolian BBQ!

Well, actually I too shall go with the flow, I just wanted to be different. However, if the flow takes us to the Mongolian BBQ I’d be happy, as I have never flowed there before.

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**Author:** ![SciFiSam](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/47e85d/32.png) [@SciFiSam](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/SciFiSam)\
**Post date:** [November 22, 2003, 8:59pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/brit-dope-winter-2003/204981/850 "2003-11-22T20:59:27Z")

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Oh, and I’d be happy to give my phone number out to anyone who wants it.

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**Author:** ![Gyrate](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/gyrate/32/3588_2.png) [@Gyrate](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Gyrate)\
**Post date:** [November 22, 2003, 11:11pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/brit-dope-winter-2003/204981/851 "2003-11-22T23:11:56Z")

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I vote for Indian, but would be happy with the other option as well. Either way, let’s aim for 6pm food, lest I get accused of hogging the rest of the evening.

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**Author:** ![Angua](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/a/8baadc/32.png) [@Angua](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Angua)\
**Post date:** [November 23, 2003, 4:31pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/brit-dope-winter-2003/204981/852 "2003-11-23T16:31:48Z")

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We’re really not doing well at this consensus thing are we? I reckon **ianzin** should just pick an option at random, and we’ll go with that.

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**Author:** ![Francesca](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/f/9fc348/32.png) [@Francesca](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Francesca)\
**Post date:** [November 23, 2003, 6:06pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/brit-dope-winter-2003/204981/853 "2003-11-23T18:06:09Z")

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As a note, neither **Alex B** nor I will be there for daytime sessions as I am a feeble old woman and cannot handle all day in a pub, but we will probably get to the Silver Cross around 7ish. We won’t have had out evening meals, so will be happy to go where the crowd leads us.

Can I suggest a start time for the quiz of 8.30?

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**Author:** ![ianzin](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/i/ed655f/32.png) [@ianzin](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/ianzin)\
**Post date:** [November 23, 2003, 8:20pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/brit-dope-winter-2003/204981/854 "2003-11-23T20:20:27Z")

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[Re-posting here because we’re on a new page, for the sake of latecomers who might not realise it is / was on page 17.]

**Arrangements for the LonDope, Saturday Nov 29th 2003.**

**Meeting:** assemble any time 12.30-1pm on the main concourse at Charing Cross Station, so that by 1pm we’re ready to find a pub and commence the First Session. (Garius has special responsibility for meeting Angua and helping her and her comestibles to find us).

**First session:** We will try the following pubs, in order, until we find one acceptable:

The Chandos. corner of St. Martin’s Lane and William IV Street. Nice, almost certainly over-crowded.

The Imperial. 5 Leicester Street, just off Leicester Square, to the left of the Empire Cinema (if facing the Empire). Should be a little less crowded.

The Comedy. Oxendon Street (same street as Comedy Store, but no connection). Nice enough, should be a good bet at that time of day.

The Three Crowns. Babmaes Street. Last-ditch option. Empty-ish on Sats because it’s out of the way.

Those who want to can wander off to go shopping or pursue culcha as and when they wish.

**Second Session**. At around 6-6.30pm, those who do not want to go somewhere specifically for food will relocate to The Silver Cross, on Whitehall. See below for directions.

Those who do want to go somewhere for communal eats… we have a choice. I’ll put it to the vote here on this thread until Wednesday 26th Nov. I need to know preferences and numbers before Thursday, when I’ll phone and make the actual booking.

**Option 1.** The Mongolian Barbeque, 12 Maiden Lane, 020 7379 7722. If you haven’t been, it’s great fun. You select your own barbeque ingredients from a vast selection of meats, fish, sauces and veg, which they cook for you on a vast hotplate while you wait a few minutes. You can go back as often as you like (I think). Good fun for a large-ish group.

**Option 2.** Tale of India, 19 New Row, Covent Garden. 020 7240 5348. Nothing special, just yer average London curry place serving up all the usual stuff. It’s the only one in the area that’s a suitable size, and they’re willing to accommodate us.

After we’ve eaten, we’ll re-join the others at the Silver Cross for the Gyrate Mega Quiz.

**The Silver Cross** is easy to find. First find Trafalgar Square. One of the streets leading South from Tr. Sq is called Whitehall. A handy landmark is a theatre called The Whitehall Theatre (what are the odds?) currently showing ‘The Rat Pack’. Silver Cross is more or less opposite this theatre. Also easy to reach from Charing X Stn. Exit station, turn left down Strand, cross over Northumberland Ave, go round corner occupied by ‘Europa Food & Wine’, you’re now on Whitehall.

The Silver Cross does very good pub food which can be ordered any time.

That’s it.

* * *

Maps. Furriners may want to get a handy central London street map (on sale everywhere) but online maps can be found here:

[http://www.streetmap.co.uk/](http://www.streetmap.co.uk/) . Ch X station is on a big London street called The Strand. Enter ‘Strand’ and check the ‘London Street’ option. Then take the ‘WC2’ option.

* * *

Contact numbers. Email me via my profile and you can have my mobile phone number for use in emergency only. If others don’t mind giving out their phone nbrs, that might be nice.

* * *

Don’t forget: I need preferences and numbers for Option 1 or Option 2 before Thursday!

I look forward to seeing you all there. If anyone criticises my organisational capabilities or logistical flair, I will ask **Tir Tinuviel** to bite you. Let’s hope the weather is nicer than it was today (Sat 22nd) when it was dark, cold, wet and windy.

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**Author:** ![Angua](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/a/8baadc/32.png) [@Angua](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Angua)\
**Post date:** [November 23, 2003, 8:34pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/brit-dope-winter-2003/204981/855 "2003-11-23T20:34:56Z")

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Hmmm… Thinking some more about it, I’ve heard of this Mongolian BBQ place before, and it sounds like fun. Put my vote for there.

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**Author:** ![Quartz](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/quartz/32/267_2.png) [@Quartz](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Quartz)\
**Post date:** [November 23, 2003, 9:19pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/brit-dope-winter-2003/204981/856 "2003-11-23T21:19:09Z")

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I had a Mongolian barbie when I was in Brunei. It was very nice.

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**Author:** ![Eva\_Luna](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/e/e495f1/32.png) [@Eva\_Luna](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Eva_Luna)\
**Post date:** [November 24, 2003, 3:27am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/brit-dope-winter-2003/204981/857 "2003-11-24T03:27:12Z")

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This may be terribly American and un-P.C. of me, but whn I think of “Mongolian barbie” I think of a busty 12" high doll wearing too much makeup, a fur hat with earflaps, and living in a yurt. Does Mattel make the Barbie Dream Yurt?

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**Author:** ![Tansu](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/t/67e7ee/32.png) [@Tansu](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Tansu)\
**Post date:** [November 24, 2003, 9:15am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/brit-dope-winter-2003/204981/858 "2003-11-24T09:15:32Z")

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Mongolian barbeque would be an excellent choice.

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**Author:** ![Gyrate](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/gyrate/32/3588_2.png) [@Gyrate](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Gyrate)\
**Post date:** [November 24, 2003, 9:24am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/brit-dope-winter-2003/204981/859 "2003-11-24T09:24:00Z")

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Hey! _I_ want a Mongolian Barbie Dream Yurt!

**Fran** : we can start the quiz later if you’re willing to be in charge of inflicting bodily harm on people who take too long to answer the questions. I’m really going to try to keep it moving this time (he says).

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**Author:** ![Angua](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/a/8baadc/32.png) [@Angua](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Angua)\
**Post date:** [November 24, 2003, 10:42am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/brit-dope-winter-2003/204981/860 "2003-11-24T10:42:47Z")

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> [@](#):
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> \*Originally posted by Eva Luna \*  
> \*\*This may be terribly American and un-P.C. of me, but whn I think of “Mongolian barbie” I think of a busty 12" high doll wearing too much makeup, a fur hat with earflaps, and living in a yurt. Does Mattel make the Barbie Dream Yurt? \*\*

**Eva** , there is coffee all over my monitor. 😃

That’s all. Just thought I’d let you know…

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