# Brit Dopers. Huntley news

**URL:** <https://boards.straightdope.com/t/brit-dopers-huntley-news/219517>\
**Category:** The BBQ Pit\
**Created:** [December 17, 2003, 12:16pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/brit-dopers-huntley-news/219517 "2003-12-17T12:16:22Z")\
**Posts on this page:** 20\
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**Author:** ![yojimbo](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/yojimbo/32/232_2.png) [@yojimbo](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/yojimbo)\
**Post date:** [December 17, 2003, 12:16pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/brit-dopers-huntley-news/219517/1 "2003-12-17T12:16:22Z")

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[Huntley guilty of Soham murders](http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/uk/3312551.stm)

She went down for conspiring to pervert the course of justice.

Good. I hope the cunt has a long and horrible life in a prison where he is hated and dispised by all around him.

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**Author:** ![yojimbo](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/yojimbo/32/232_2.png) [@yojimbo](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/yojimbo)\
**Post date:** [December 17, 2003, 12:21pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/brit-dopers-huntley-news/219517/2 "2003-12-17T12:21:01Z")

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despised

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**Author:** ![ruadh](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/r/d2c977/32.png) [@ruadh](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/ruadh)\
**Post date:** [December 17, 2003, 12:21pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/brit-dopers-huntley-news/219517/3 "2003-12-17T12:21:38Z")

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Was there ever any doubt, with that joke of a defence? As I said earlier, I think the girls’ families should sue him now for making them go through all that.

When is the sentencing?

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**Author:** ![jjimm](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/j/ba8739/32.png) [@jjimm](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/jjimm)\
**Post date:** [December 17, 2003, 12:25pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/brit-dopers-huntley-news/219517/4 "2003-12-17T12:25:26Z")

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May the child-raping, child-murdering CUNT rot in his cell.

Now I’ve got that off my chest, what about Maxine Carr? Even if she’s found innocent of all charges (which she won’t), she’ll be free soon enough. Her life will be hell. She’ll have to leave the country.

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**Author:** ![jjimm](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/j/ba8739/32.png) [@jjimm](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/jjimm)\
**Post date:** [December 17, 2003, 12:27pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/brit-dopers-huntley-news/219517/5 "2003-12-17T12:27:03Z")

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What disturbs me is that it was a split jury - the judge had to allow a majority verdict. Who the fuck was taken in by his lies and the frankly intelligence-insulting defense?

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**Author:** ![ruadh](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/r/d2c977/32.png) [@ruadh](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/ruadh)\
**Post date:** [December 17, 2003, 12:30pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/brit-dopers-huntley-news/219517/6 "2003-12-17T12:30:29Z")

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Maxine Carr was partially convicted, jjimm, it says so in the linked article.

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**Author:** ![London\_Calling](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/l/49beb7/32.png) [@London\_Calling](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/London_Calling)\
**Post date:** [December 17, 2003, 12:31pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/brit-dopers-huntley-news/219517/7 "2003-12-17T12:31:25Z")

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“Life” for Huntley.

Carr, 3 ½ years. Already been in custody for 16 months, five-ish months left to serve (assuming standard discounting).

It’s probable she’ll be out in May next year.

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**Author:** ![Ximenean](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/x/aca169/32.png) [@Ximenean](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Ximenean)\
**Post date:** [December 17, 2003, 12:32pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/brit-dopers-huntley-news/219517/8 "2003-12-17T12:32:04Z")

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> \*Originally posted by jjimm \*  
> \*\*What disturbs me is that it was a split jury - the judge had to allow a majority verdict. Who the fuck was taken in by his lies and the frankly intelligence-insulting defense? \*\*

It was only one jury member, but still… maybe they flew someone in from the OJ trial.

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**Author:** ![Frank](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/f/3d9bf3/32.png) [@Frank](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Frank)\
**Post date:** [December 17, 2003, 12:33pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/brit-dopers-huntley-news/219517/9 "2003-12-17T12:33:51Z")

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> \*Originally posted by jjimm \*  
> \*\*What disturbs me is that it was a split jury - the judge had to allow a majority verdict. Who the fuck was taken in by his lies and the frankly intelligence-insulting defense? \*\*

The UK allows majority verdicts? If the judge allows it? Could it have been 10 to 2? 7 to 5?

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**Author:** ![Futile\_Gesture](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/f/f05b48/32.png) [@Futile\_Gesture](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Futile_Gesture)\
**Post date:** [December 17, 2003, 12:34pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/brit-dopers-huntley-news/219517/10 "2003-12-17T12:34:27Z")

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What disturbs me is that he had a whole string of complaints and investigations for underage “relationships” yet no-one was aware of this when he was employed as a school janitor.

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**Author:** ![jjimm](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/j/ba8739/32.png) [@jjimm](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/jjimm)\
**Post date:** [December 17, 2003, 12:34pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/brit-dopers-huntley-news/219517/11 "2003-12-17T12:34:36Z")

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> \*Originally posted by ruadh \*  
> \*\*Maxine Carr was partially convicted, jjimm, it says so in the linked article. \*\*

D’oh.

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**Author:** ![everton](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/e/ecb155/32.png) [@everton](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/everton)\
**Post date:** [December 17, 2003, 12:42pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/brit-dopers-huntley-news/219517/12 "2003-12-17T12:42:34Z")

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> \*Originally posted by This Year’s Model \*  
> The UK allows majority verdicts? If the judge allows it? Could it have been 10 to 2? 7 to 5?

It’s at the judge’s discretion; he told the jury he would accept 10 to 2. I don’t believe that a verdict of fewer than 10 in favour has ever been accepted in a murder trial though.

It is not inconceivable that somebody doubted some details of Carr’s involvement, but not Huntley’s. One of the jurors must be a brain donor.

You can read more about the trial itself [here](http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/england/3232051.stm).

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**Author:** ![jjimm](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/j/ba8739/32.png) [@jjimm](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/jjimm)\
**Post date:** [December 17, 2003, 12:49pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/brit-dopers-huntley-news/219517/13 "2003-12-17T12:49:43Z")

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I know this isn’t really the place, but did the compiler of that BBC timeline have something against the use of apostrophies?!?

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**Author:** ![jjimm](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/j/ba8739/32.png) [@jjimm](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/jjimm)\
**Post date:** [December 17, 2003, 12:51pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/brit-dopers-huntley-news/219517/14 "2003-12-17T12:51:00Z")

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> \*Originally posted by jjimm \*  
> \*\*apostrophies?!? \*\*

**Apostrophes**.

Fuck fuck fuck fuck fuck! :smack:

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**Author:** ![paulberserker](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/p/c4cdca/32.png) [@paulberserker](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/paulberserker)\
**Post date:** [December 17, 2003, 12:51pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/brit-dopers-huntley-news/219517/15 "2003-12-17T12:51:08Z")

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I hope the fucker has a nice time in a cell with bubba

they should let the families kick his fucking head in each and everyday of his cunto life. wouldn’t bring the girls back, but it would certainly make me feel better.

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**Author:** ![Quartz](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/quartz/32/267_2.png) [@Quartz](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Quartz)\
**Post date:** [December 17, 2003, 12:52pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/brit-dopers-huntley-news/219517/16 "2003-12-17T12:52:18Z")

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Futile Gesture, not knowing previous convictions or accusations is part of the British legal system.

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**Author:** ![jjimm](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/j/ba8739/32.png) [@jjimm](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/jjimm)\
**Post date:** [December 17, 2003, 12:54pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/brit-dopers-huntley-news/219517/17 "2003-12-17T12:54:04Z")

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> \*Originally posted by qts \*  
> \*\*Futile Gesture, not knowing previous convictions or accusations is part of the British legal system. \*\*

Read his sentence again: it’s not the jury he was talking about, it’s the vetting to get work in a school.

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**Author:** ![yojimbo](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/yojimbo/32/232_2.png) [@yojimbo](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/yojimbo)\
**Post date:** [December 17, 2003, 12:57pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/brit-dopers-huntley-news/219517/18 "2003-12-17T12:57:12Z")

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We were just talking about this in work.

Should a pattern of arrests but **no** convictions be held against you when going for jobs? Should a special case be made for working with children? There’s a GD in there if anyone what’s to start one. I’m too hungover and tired to do anything in GD today.

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**Author:** ![everton](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/e/ecb155/32.png) [@everton](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/everton)\
**Post date:** [December 17, 2003, 12:58pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/brit-dopers-huntley-news/219517/19 "2003-12-17T12:58:11Z")

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> \*Originally posted by Futile Gesture \*  
> What disturbs me is that he had a whole string of complaints and investigations for underage “relationships” yet no-one was aware of this when he was employed as a school janitor.

That’s likely to be the big story in the next few days. A spokesman from the school has said that Huntley would never have been given a job if they’d known he had a burglary charge on the police’s books (which he had), let alone the sexual offences stuff.

He gave a false name on his job application, and investigations were only carried out on that name, even though he added his real name on the police statement that all school appointees are required to fill out. The checks were shambolic and there’ll be plenty of finger pointing about who was to blame.

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**Author:** ![Mangetout](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/mangetout/32/19_2.png) [@Mangetout](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Mangetout)\
**Post date:** [December 17, 2003, 1:11pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/brit-dopers-huntley-news/219517/20 "2003-12-17T13:11:15Z")

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It is difficult to understand how a jury could be in any doubt, now that all the evidence is disclosed ([link](http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/uk/3257664.stm))

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