# Brit Dopers. Huntley news **URL:** \ **Category:** The BBQ Pit\ **Created:** [December 17, 2003, 12:16pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/brit-dopers-huntley-news/219517 "2003-12-17T12:16:22Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 11\ **Page:** 5
**Author:** ![owlstretchingtime](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/o/958977/32.png) [@owlstretchingtime](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/owlstretchingtime)\ **Post date:** [December 19, 2003, 2:29pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/brit-dopers-huntley-news/219517/81 "2003-12-19T14:29:48Z")
He’s on observation - ie suicide watch. That’s why he’s isolated. That won’t last for ever. Remember that not everyone on Rule 43 is a nonce. Many are grasses and a very large number are on the Rule to get away from drug debts. They have the same opinion of nonces as the rest of the population (and wardens are pretty good at not being in certain places at certain times). He’ll get attacked. As I said before I would rather be hanged than spend the rest of my life (he’s only young, remember) on Rule 43 in a high security nick. ---
**Author:** ![London\_Calling](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/l/49beb7/32.png) [@London\_Calling](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/London_Calling)\ **Post date:** [December 19, 2003, 2:33pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/brit-dopers-huntley-news/219517/82 "2003-12-19T14:33:34Z")
That’ll be good. Michael Jackson with a pretty decent girlie body. ---
**Author:** ![Mangetout](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/mangetout/32/19_2.png) [@Mangetout](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Mangetout)\ **Post date:** [December 19, 2003, 2:34pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/brit-dopers-huntley-news/219517/83 "2003-12-19T14:34:27Z")
> [@](#): > > \*Originally posted by Futile Gesture \* > \*\*I’ll talk about some people in my old job in the past tense. It doesn’t mean I think they’re dead, just that I am unlikely to ever meet them again. They are in my past just like the girls were in Carr’s. She didn’t work in the school anymore. \*\*Quite plausible and I concede the point. ---
**Author:** ![Mangetout](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/mangetout/32/19_2.png) [@Mangetout](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Mangetout)\ **Post date:** [December 19, 2003, 2:35pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/brit-dopers-huntley-news/219517/84 "2003-12-19T14:35:52Z")
> [@](#): > > \*Originally posted by owlstretchingtime \* > \*\*He’s on observation - ie suicide watch. That’s why he’s isolated. That won’t last for ever. > > Remember that not everyone on Rule 43 is a nonce. Many are grasses and a very large number are on the Rule to get away from drug debts. They have the same opinion of nonces as the rest of the population (and wardens are pretty good at not being in certain places at certain times). He’ll get attacked. > > As I said before I would rather be hanged than spend the rest of my life (he’s only young, remember) on Rule 43 in a high security nick. \*\* I think it quite likely that he will find a way to off himself at some point in the not-too-distant future. ---
**Author:** ![jjimm](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/j/ba8739/32.png) [@jjimm](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/jjimm)\ **Post date:** [December 19, 2003, 2:39pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/brit-dopers-huntley-news/219517/85 "2003-12-19T14:39:40Z")
> [@](#): > > \*Originally posted by London\_Calling \* > \*\*That’ll be good. Michael Jackson with a pretty decent girlie body. \*\* Dude, go and wash your brain with bleach. ---
**Author:** ![Mangetout](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/mangetout/32/19_2.png) [@Mangetout](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Mangetout)\ **Post date:** [December 19, 2003, 2:40pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/brit-dopers-huntley-news/219517/86 "2003-12-19T14:40:32Z")
…or it will look that way, which is slightly more disturbing. ---
**Author:** ![yojimbo](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/yojimbo/32/232_2.png) [@yojimbo](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/yojimbo)\ **Post date:** [December 19, 2003, 3:21pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/brit-dopers-huntley-news/219517/87 "2003-12-19T15:21:16Z")
These guys in prison have a long memory. Look at long it took Sutcliffe to get his. > [@](#): > > He left Sutcliffe blind in one eye but said later that one of his plans had been to slit Sutcliffe’s throat with a razor embedded in a toothbrush. Kay added in a police interview: “He killed 13 women and deserves what happened to him.” Used a pen to do the damage. [http://www.bernardomahoney.com/forthcb/pdt/yrarticles/iwtkrsp.shtml](http://www.bernardomahoney.com/forthcb/pdt/yrarticles/iwtkrsp.shtml) ---
**Author:** ![Mangetout](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/mangetout/32/19_2.png) [@Mangetout](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Mangetout)\ **Post date:** [December 19, 2003, 3:32pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/brit-dopers-huntley-news/219517/88 "2003-12-19T15:32:06Z")
For some reason, I’m reminded of the recent case where a registered sex offender was murdered in his home - very few people have come forward to help and there is a general smug atmosphere of “Well, he _deserved_ it”. The problem is; wake up folks, there’s a murderer in your midst - someone who is prepared to take the law into his own hands and considers his own moral framework to be superior to the common one - what if tomorrow, he decides that noisy neighbours or children who drop litter are worthy of death? ---
**Author:** ![MarkF](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/8797f3/32.png) [@MarkF](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/MarkF)\ **Post date:** [December 19, 2003, 3:45pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/brit-dopers-huntley-news/219517/89 "2003-12-19T15:45:59Z")
> [@](#): > > Any capital punishment would simply be a matter of revenge, which is a tempting but destructive emotion that should play no part in a judicial system Well said **LC** To the question of reinstigating capital punishment, my view is that it should not be. I don’t believe it would have made the slightest bit of difference here. Huntley should never be released and continually monitored / examined / studied along with any other mass murderer / paedophile so people can actually begin to understand _why_ people become inclined to do this shit. Whenever an event like this occurs, suddenly everyone who ever knew the perpetrator claims to have seen the behaviour from an early stage pointing to the potential outcome. Well, perhaps if certain behaviour is identified at an early stage then that individual should be monitored? There is a GD waiting to be had about how society would manage dealing with all of the aspects of something like that, (civil liberties, police / judiciary ability to cope or implement rules etc) not least what parents / teachers input responsibilities are but like the other poster, I am not clever enough to start it! 🙂 Those two girls were “just” incredibly unlucky enough to be in the wrong place at the wrong time. I think the parents of the children have been so dignified. ---
**Author:** ![Futile\_Gesture](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/f/f05b48/32.png) [@Futile\_Gesture](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Futile_Gesture)\ **Post date:** [December 19, 2003, 4:47pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/brit-dopers-huntley-news/219517/90 "2003-12-19T16:47:56Z")
> [@](#): > > \*Originally posted by MarkF \* > **Well said LC** Thanks, but please don’t call me Elsie. ---
**Author:** ![curly\_chick](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/c/7ba0ec/32.png) [@curly\_chick](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/curly_chick)\ **Post date:** [December 19, 2003, 5:04pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/brit-dopers-huntley-news/219517/91 "2003-12-19T17:04:40Z")
> [@](#): > > \*Originally posted by Futile Gesture \* > \*\*Thanks, but please don’t call me Elsie. \*\* Maybe **FG** was suggesting your age, roman numerically speaking? 😃 Although, LC = L, really doesn’t it? Just a thought from your ancient friend, CC And **jjimm** , thanks for that info on the reintroduction of the death penalty in some American states. Interesting. [Previous page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/brit-dopers-huntley-news/219517.md?page=4)