# British Empire War Movies?

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**Category:** Cafe Society\
**Created:** [November 4, 2011, 10:10am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/british-empire-war-movies/601833 "2011-11-04T10:10:48Z")\
**Posts on this page:** 17\
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**Author:** ![Little\_Nemo](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/little_nemo/32/3120_2.png) [@Little\_Nemo](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Little_Nemo)\
**Post date:** [November 5, 2011, 12:43am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/british-empire-war-movies/601833/41 "2011-11-05T00:43:59Z")

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> [@jsc1953](#):
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> Or the 1921, 1929 or 1939 versions.

None of which I have seen. Nor have I seen the 2002 one.

I have read the book though.

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**Author:** ![mack](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/b19c9b/32.png) [@mack](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/mack)\
**Post date:** [November 5, 2011, 12:56am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/british-empire-war-movies/601833/42 "2011-11-05T00:56:14Z")

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> [@Nava](#):
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> Charge of the Light Brigade was one of Dad’s favorite movies; he wasn’t much into realism, but epic, dashing going-ons oh yeah.

Sounds like it might be the Errol Flynn version.

There’s another take in the [1968 version](http://www.imdb.com/title/tt0062790/) which is worth a viewing.

Does WWI count? How about [Gallipoli](http://www.imdb.com/title/tt0082432/)? ANZAC troops as cannon fodder, anyway.

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**Author:** ![BMalion](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/b/e274bd/32.png) [@BMalion](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/BMalion)\
**Post date:** [November 5, 2011, 1:32am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/british-empire-war-movies/601833/43 "2011-11-05T01:32:58Z")

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You can’t beat _The Life And Death Of Col. Blimp_

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**Author:** ![Elendil\_s\_Heir](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/e/7cd45c/32.png) [@Elendil\_s\_Heir](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Elendil_s_Heir)\
**Post date:** [November 5, 2011, 2:20am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/british-empire-war-movies/601833/44 "2011-11-05T02:20:56Z")

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> [@Dave\_Hartwick](#):
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> …The Empire was still around for World War II, for one thing, and that has to be one of the most popular settings for movies.

Yes, I suppose _Sink the Bismarck!, The Cruel Sea, In Which We Serve_ and _The Bridge on the River Kwai_ would qualify, to say nothing of _Gandhi_, although those probably aren’t what the OP has in mind.

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**Author:** ![Slithy\_Tove](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/slithy_tove/32/18248_2.png) [@Slithy\_Tove](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Slithy_Tove)\
**Post date:** [November 5, 2011, 11:55am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/british-empire-war-movies/601833/45 "2011-11-05T11:55:50Z")

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I like the ones made in the UK over the Hollwood ones, which gives the impression that a great and noble effort was put into maintaining the Mojave Desert.

OT, but the Russians have a similar genre to these, about their conquest of Central Asia in the 19th C. called “easterns.”

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**Author:** ![mbh](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/a6a055/32.png) [@mbh](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/mbh)\
**Post date:** [November 5, 2011, 12:44pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/british-empire-war-movies/601833/46 "2011-11-05T12:44:53Z")

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Regarding _Four Feathers_:

The 1939 version gets the best reviews from the critics.

The 1978 TV version is more faithful to the book than any of the film versions I have seen.

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**Author:** ![Dr\_Chicago](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/e5b9ba/32.png) [@Dr\_Chicago](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Dr_Chicago)\
**Post date:** [November 5, 2011, 5:46pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/british-empire-war-movies/601833/47 "2011-11-05T17:46:54Z")

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I was sort of wondering if there were any epics on the scale of Lawrence of Arabia or what I think Khartoum was shooting for, but all of them sound interesting, I’ll check out as many as I have time for (with thesis done, I may have a lot more time soon). I’ve been to South Africa, so anything involving there would be great, or anywhere in Africa. I had no idea that A Passage to India had been made into a film, and…by David Lean? _Swoon_

This is going into a giant list, thanks again everyone!

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**Author:** ![araminty](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/a/b5e925/32.png) [@araminty](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/araminty)\
**Post date:** [November 5, 2011, 7:02pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/british-empire-war-movies/601833/48 "2011-11-05T19:02:16Z")

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Post-colonial biopic? I enjoyed Richard E. Grant’s [Wah-Wah](http://www.imdb.com/title/tt0419256/).

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**Author:** ![Icerigger](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/icerigger/32/432_2.png) [@Icerigger](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Icerigger)\
**Post date:** [November 5, 2011, 9:13pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/british-empire-war-movies/601833/49 "2011-11-05T21:13:45Z")

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I think The African Queen could qualify.

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**Author:** ![lisiate](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/l/f05b48/32.png) [@lisiate](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/lisiate)\
**Post date:** [November 5, 2011, 11:24pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/british-empire-war-movies/601833/50 "2011-11-05T23:24:52Z")

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I’m surprised \*\*Martini Enfield \*\*hasn’t been along with a long list of recommendations…

Totally support _Breaker Morant_. It’s a great movie, set in South Africa during the Boer War.

I liked the 2002 _Four Feathers_, but haven’t seen any of the other versions to compare it with.

One no one’s mentioned yet is [Utu](http://www.imdb.com/title/tt0086497/). It’s set in New Zealand during the Maori wars, and is probably one of the few instances where the ‘natives’ aren’t mere ciphers. Well worth a look in my opinion.

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**Author:** ![Little\_Nemo](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/little_nemo/32/3120_2.png) [@Little\_Nemo](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Little_Nemo)\
**Post date:** [November 5, 2011, 11:37pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/british-empire-war-movies/601833/51 "2011-11-05T23:37:41Z")

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> [@mbh](#):
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> The 1978 TV version is more faithful to the book than any of the film versions I have seen.

It also has one of the best battle scenes I’ve ever seen in a movie. A British unit is on patrol and walks into an ambush. The British soldiers form a square to defend themselves. The movie shows clearly how the square formation worked and how it was overcome.

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**Author:** ![Elendil\_s\_Heir](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/e/7cd45c/32.png) [@Elendil\_s\_Heir](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Elendil_s_Heir)\
**Post date:** [November 6, 2011, 2:47am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/british-empire-war-movies/601833/52 "2011-11-06T02:47:46Z")

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> [@lisiate](#):
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> I’m surprised \*\*Martini Enfield \*\*hasn’t been along with a long list of recommendations…
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> Totally support _Breaker Morant_. It’s a great movie, set in South Africa during the Boer War…

I’ve PM’d **Martini Enfield**.

And of course I totally agree about _Breaker Morant_. Love it.

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**Author:** ![BMalion](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/b/e274bd/32.png) [@BMalion](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/BMalion)\
**Post date:** [November 6, 2011, 4:08am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/british-empire-war-movies/601833/53 "2011-11-06T04:08:27Z")

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> [@Elendil\_s\_Heir](#):
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> I’ve PM’d **Martini Enfield**.
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> And of course I totally agree about _Breaker Morant_. Love it.

“Shoot straight you bastards, don’t make a mess of it!”

One of the best.

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**Author:** ![Martini\_Enfield](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/martini_enfield/32/11123_2.png) [@Martini\_Enfield](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Martini_Enfield)\
**Post date:** [November 6, 2011, 8:34am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/british-empire-war-movies/601833/54 "2011-11-06T08:34:18Z")

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> [@lisiate](#):
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> I’m surprised \*\*Martini Enfield \*\*hasn’t been along with a long list of recommendations…

They’ve all been mentioned, so I didn’t see much to add. 😃

> [@Little\_Nemo](#):
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> None of which I have seen. Nor have I seen the 2002 one.
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> I have read the book though.

I hated the book but thought the 1939 film (It’s in colour!) was excellent.

My personal favourites are _Lawrence of Arabia, Zulu/Zulu Dawn, North-West Frontier,_ and _The Four Feathers (1939)_

Things like _Gallipoli_, _Breaker Morant_ and _The Lighthorsemen_ are also excellent.

I’m still waiting for a proper, modern film version of _King Solomon’s Mines_…

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**Author:** ![Bizzie](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/b/46a35a/32.png) [@Bizzie](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Bizzie)\
**Post date:** [November 6, 2011, 11:58am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/british-empire-war-movies/601833/55 "2011-11-06T11:58:26Z")

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> [@Dr\_Chicago](#):
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> A significant part of a thesis I just wrote was on colonialism. Which is bad…

Not necessarily.

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**Author:** ![Dave\_Hartwick](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/7feea3/32.png) [@Dave\_Hartwick](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Dave_Hartwick)\
**Post date:** [November 6, 2011, 1:39pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/british-empire-war-movies/601833/56 "2011-11-06T13:39:33Z")

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> [@Dr\_Chicago](#):
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> I was sort of wondering if there were any epics on the scale of Lawrence of Arabia or what I think Khartoum was shooting for… I’ve been to South Africa, so anything involving there would be great, or anywhere in Africa.

Wrong setting but an epic: _The Last of the Mohicans_ (1992).

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**Author:** ![Equipoise](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/equipoise/32/151_2.png) [@Equipoise](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Equipoise)\
**Post date:** [November 6, 2011, 11:25pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/british-empire-war-movies/601833/57 "2011-11-06T23:25:27Z")

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> [@](#):
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> Teacher: [jabbing at a map of the world, with the British Empire lands in pink] **Pink. Pink. Pink. Pink. What are all the pink bits? Rowan**.
> 
> Bill Rowen: **They’re ours, Miss.**
> 
> Teacher: **Yes. The British Empire. Arthur… what fraction of the earth’s surface is British?**
> 
> Arthur in Roger’s Gang: **Don’t know, Miss.**
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> Teacher: **Anyone? Jennifer Baker?**
> 
> Jennifer Baker: **Two-fifths, Miss.**
> 
> Teacher: **“Yes, two-fifths! Ours. That’s what this war is all about. Men are fighting and dying to save all the pink bits for you ungrateful little twerps.”**

Come on, someone had to

[quote that]  
([Hope and Glory (1987) - IMDb](http://www.imdb.com/title/tt0093209/)).

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