# British MP shot, stabbed (update: died from wounds) **URL:** \ **Category:** Miscellaneous and Personal Stuff I Must Share\ **Created:** [June 16, 2016, 3:21pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/british-mp-shot-stabbed-update-died-from-wounds/757533 "2016-06-16T15:21:45Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 20\ **Page:** 1
**Author:** ![Gyrate](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/gyrate/32/3588_2.png) [@Gyrate](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Gyrate)\ **Post date:** [June 16, 2016, 3:21pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/british-mp-shot-stabbed-update-died-from-wounds/757533/1 "2016-06-16T15:21:45Z")
[British MP Jo Cox](http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-england-36550304)is in critical condition after being shot and stabbed by an unnamed assailant. A 52-year-old man was arrested. Details at this point are limited. Shootings are incredibly rare in the UK so this is particularly shocking. One witness is claiming the assailant shouted “Britain First!” during the attack but it’s too early to corroborate this. That said, Britain First is the name of a far-right anti-immigrant party (which seems to be peopled entirely by angry white men) and Cox was the chair of the All Party Parliamentary “Friends of Syria” Group (which discusses issues pertaining to the Syrian civil war and refugee crisis), so it wouldn’t be surprising. Regardless of who was responsible, I’m hoping she stabilises soon. Horrible stuff. ---
**Author:** ![Stanislaus](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/stanislaus/32/3391_2.png) [@Stanislaus](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Stanislaus)\ **Post date:** [June 16, 2016, 3:33pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/british-mp-shot-stabbed-update-died-from-wounds/757533/2 "2016-06-16T15:33:37Z")
This in the midst of a campaign which has seen some leading lights go out of their way to encourage fear and hatred of non-natives. It’s too early to say for sure, but the implications are sickening. ---
**Author:** ![aceplace57](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/aceplace57/32/3500_2.png) [@aceplace57](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/aceplace57)\ **Post date:** [June 16, 2016, 4:35pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/british-mp-shot-stabbed-update-died-from-wounds/757533/3 "2016-06-16T16:35:41Z")
She’s died. > **[Killing of British politician Jo Cox stuns nation | CNN](https://www.cnn.com/2016/06/16/europe/british-mp-jo-cox-attacked/index.html)** > > Jo Cox, a British Labour Party politician, died after an attack Thursday in a village in her constituency, police said. ---
**Author:** ![aceplace57](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/aceplace57/32/3500_2.png) [@aceplace57](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/aceplace57)\ **Post date:** [June 16, 2016, 4:40pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/british-mp-shot-stabbed-update-died-from-wounds/757533/4 "2016-06-16T16:40:07Z")
A mother with 2 kids. Trying to make a difference and representing her district. Such a senseless act. Glad they caught him. ---
**Author:** ![Shodan](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/9f8e36/32.png) [@Shodan](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Shodan)\ **Post date:** [June 16, 2016, 4:50pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/british-mp-shot-stabbed-update-died-from-wounds/757533/5 "2016-06-16T16:50:08Z")
I wonder if it had to do with the Brexit question. It will be interesting to hear about the (alleged) shooter/stabber. Regards, Shodan ---
**Author:** ![Mr.Kobayashi](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/4af34b/32.png) [@Mr.Kobayashi](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Mr.Kobayashi)\ **Post date:** [June 16, 2016, 4:53pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/british-mp-shot-stabbed-update-died-from-wounds/757533/6 "2016-06-16T16:53:19Z")
Suspect named as 52 year old [Thomas Mair](https://www.theguardian.com/uk-news/2016/jun/16/labour-mp-jo-cox-shot-in-west-yorkshire). ---
**Author:** ![koeeoaddi](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/koeeoaddi/32/408_2.png) [@koeeoaddi](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/koeeoaddi)\ **Post date:** [June 16, 2016, 4:56pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/british-mp-shot-stabbed-update-died-from-wounds/757533/7 "2016-06-16T16:56:52Z")
F’ing horrible! ☹ ---
**Author:** ![Gary\_Kumquat](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/g/4491bb/32.png) [@Gary\_Kumquat](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Gary_Kumquat)\ **Post date:** [June 16, 2016, 4:59pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/british-mp-shot-stabbed-update-died-from-wounds/757533/8 "2016-06-16T16:59:35Z")
> [@Mr.Kobayashi](#): > > Suspect named as 52 year old [Thomas Mair](https://www.theguardian.com/uk-news/2016/jun/16/labour-mp-jo-cox-shot-in-west-yorkshire). Who has a history of mental illness: > [@](#): > > Thomas Mair, 46, started volunteering at the park after learning about the opportunity through the Mirfield-based Pathways Day Centre for adults with mental health problems. He said: "I can honestly say it has done me more good than all the psychotherapy and medication in the world. "Many people who suffer from mental illness are socially isolated and disconnected from society, feelings of worthlessness are also common mainly caused by long-term unemployment. > > "All these problems are alleviated by doing voluntary work. Getting out of the house and meeting new people is a good thing, but more important in my view is doing physically demanding and useful labour. > > "When you have finished there is a feeling of achievement which is emotionally rewarding and psychologically fulfilling. > > “For people for whom full-time, paid employment is not possible for a variety of reasons, voluntary work offers a socially positive and therapeutic alternative.” ---
**Author:** ![Shodan](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/9f8e36/32.png) [@Shodan](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Shodan)\ **Post date:** [June 16, 2016, 5:01pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/british-mp-shot-stabbed-update-died-from-wounds/757533/9 "2016-06-16T17:01:29Z")
> [@Mr.Kobayashi](#): > > Suspect named as 52 year old [Thomas Mair](https://www.theguardian.com/uk-news/2016/jun/16/labour-mp-jo-cox-shot-in-west-yorkshire). Thanks. Regards, Shodan ---
**Author:** ![up\_the\_junction](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/u/f1d935/32.png) [@up\_the\_junction](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/up_the_junction)\ **Post date:** [June 16, 2016, 5:10pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/british-mp-shot-stabbed-update-died-from-wounds/757533/10 "2016-06-16T17:10:35Z")
How can you not be mentally ill to do that. The question for me is where did he get the gun from. ---
**Author:** ![aceplace57](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/aceplace57/32/3500_2.png) [@aceplace57](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/aceplace57)\ **Post date:** [June 16, 2016, 5:25pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/british-mp-shot-stabbed-update-died-from-wounds/757533/11 "2016-06-16T17:25:32Z")
Can someone clarify what a British MP is? In US terms, was she a member of the state legislature or the national one? Thanks. ---
**Author:** ![Walken\_After\_Midnight](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/w/b487fb/32.png) [@Walken\_After\_Midnight](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Walken_After_Midnight)\ **Post date:** [June 16, 2016, 5:26pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/british-mp-shot-stabbed-update-died-from-wounds/757533/12 "2016-06-16T17:26:06Z")
> [@up\_the\_junction](#): > > The question for me is where did he get the gun from. An eyewitness described it as homemade. ---
**Author:** ![Alessan](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/alessan/32/465_2.png) [@Alessan](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Alessan)\ **Post date:** [June 16, 2016, 5:29pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/british-mp-shot-stabbed-update-died-from-wounds/757533/13 "2016-06-16T17:29:21Z")
> [@aceplace57](#): > > Can someone clarify what a British MP is? > > In US terms, was she a member of the state legislature or the national one? > > Thanks. National. Like a Congresswoman, but if the Senate wasn’t nearly as powerful. ---
**Author:** ![Baron\_Greenback](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/baron_greenback/32/48_2.png) [@Baron\_Greenback](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Baron_Greenback)\ **Post date:** [June 16, 2016, 5:30pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/british-mp-shot-stabbed-update-died-from-wounds/757533/14 "2016-06-16T17:30:12Z")
> [@aceplace57](#): > > Can someone clarify what a British MP is? > > In US terms, was she a member of the state legislature or the national one? > > Thanks. National. ---
**Author:** ![Mr.Kobayashi](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/4af34b/32.png) [@Mr.Kobayashi](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Mr.Kobayashi)\ **Post date:** [June 16, 2016, 5:33pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/british-mp-shot-stabbed-update-died-from-wounds/757533/15 "2016-06-16T17:33:55Z")
> [@up\_the\_junction](#): > > How can you not be mentally ill to do that. > > The question for me is where did he get the gun from. From the [BBC](http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-england-36550304), witnesses say it looked “homemade” or “old fashioned”, though he reportedly got three shots off, a witness made a [sketch](https://twitter.com/MichaelLCrick/status/743465781984399361) which looks like some kind of flintlock pistol. > [@Shodan](#): > > I wonder if it had to do with the Brexit question. It will be interesting to hear about the (alleged) shooter/stabber. > > Regards, > Shodan Witnesses report him shouting “Britain First”, from the Guardian link; \*Graeme Howard, 38, who lives in nearby Bond Street, told the Guardian he heard the man shout “Britain first” before the shooting and during the arrest. “I heard the shot and I ran outside and saw some ladies from the cafe running out with towels,” he said. “There was loads of screaming and shouting and the police officers showed up. “He was shouting ‘Britain first’ when he was doing it and being arrested. He was pinned down by two police officers and she was taken away in an ambulance.”\* There’s a right wing political organisation with that name which has renounced the attack; \* Jayda Fransen, deputy leader of Britain First, said the party was “looking into the reports right now”. “We were extremely shocked to see these reports and we are keen to confirm them, because of course at the moment it is hearsay,” she said. “This has just been bought to our attention. This is absolutely not the kind of behaviour we would condone.”\* ---
**Author:** ![Count\_Blucher](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/c/c5a1d2/32.png) [@Count\_Blucher](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Count_Blucher)\ **Post date:** [June 16, 2016, 5:38pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/british-mp-shot-stabbed-update-died-from-wounds/757533/16 "2016-06-16T17:38:55Z")
> [@up\_the\_junction](#): > > The question for me is where did he get the gun from. He had tools, he had materials, and he had the dimensions. I’m guessing that he drilled a barrel, made a receiver, and then made a firing pin. Look, this really sucks. She fought daily against political scum bags… and she was Beautiful on the outside too. Life imitates [Art.](https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Laura_(1944_film))☹ ---
**Author:** ![Amateur\_Barbarian](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/a/59ef9b/32.png) [@Amateur\_Barbarian](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Amateur_Barbarian)\ **Post date:** [June 16, 2016, 6:17pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/british-mp-shot-stabbed-update-died-from-wounds/757533/17 "2016-06-16T18:17:45Z")
And the American disease reaches England. Sorry, chaps. Many of us don’t mean to rambo-ize the whole world. ---
**Author:** ![Cinnamon\_Imp](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/c/58956e/32.png) [@Cinnamon\_Imp](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Cinnamon_Imp)\ **Post date:** [June 16, 2016, 6:26pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/british-mp-shot-stabbed-update-died-from-wounds/757533/18 "2016-06-16T18:26:57Z")
> [@Count\_Blucher](#): > > He had tools, he had materials, and he had the dimensions. I’m guessing that he drilled a barrel, made a receiver, and then made a firing pin. > > Look, this really sucks. She fought daily against political scum bags… and she was Beautiful on the outside too. > > Life imitates [Art.](https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Laura_(1944_film))☹ Your film is irrelevant to her murder, and I find your random linking to it in this thread offensive. > [@Amateur\_Barbarian](#): > > And the American disease reaches England. > > Sorry, chaps. Many of us don’t mean to rambo-ize the whole world. America, this isn’t about you. ---
**Author:** ![mascaroni](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/dc4da7/32.png) [@mascaroni](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/mascaroni)\ **Post date:** [June 16, 2016, 6:31pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/british-mp-shot-stabbed-update-died-from-wounds/757533/19 "2016-06-16T18:31:46Z")
> [@Amateur\_Barbarian](#): > > And the American disease reaches England. > > Sorry, chaps. Many of us don’t mean to rambo-ize the whole world. Spencer Percival, our then Prime Minister was assassinated by shooting back in 1812, so we we can’t really lay the blame for this on America. Still shocking though, we don’t really expect that sort of thing over here these days. ---
**Author:** ![Declan](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/ecae2f/32.png) [@Declan](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Declan)\ **Post date:** [June 16, 2016, 7:08pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/british-mp-shot-stabbed-update-died-from-wounds/757533/20 "2016-06-16T19:08:12Z")
> [@Mr.Kobayashi](#): > > Witnesses report him shouting “Britain First”, from the Guardian link; > \*Graeme Howard, 38, who lives in nearby Bond Street, told the Guardian he heard the man shout “Britain first” before the shooting and during the arrest. > “I heard the shot and I ran outside and saw some ladies from the cafe running out with towels,” he said. “There was loads of screaming and shouting and the police officers showed up. The Britain first thing has since been retracted, as well as its unconfirmed if she was the target, or an innocent bystander who intervened in something. Declan [Next page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/british-mp-shot-stabbed-update-died-from-wounds/757533.md?page=2)