# British people adding R at end of words **URL:** \ **Category:** Miscellaneous and Personal Stuff I Must Share\ **Created:** [February 21, 2009, 10:53pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/british-people-adding-r-at-end-of-words/486896 "2009-02-21T22:53:57Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 20\ **Page:** 1
**Author:** ![prolific9](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/p/e99b99/32.png) [@prolific9](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/prolific9)\ **Post date:** [February 21, 2009, 10:53pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/british-people-adding-r-at-end-of-words/486896/1 "2009-02-21T22:53:57Z")
I was watching Real Time /w Bill Maher yesterday and they had this British guest on. Words that ended with an A, she would add an extra R at the end. Obama would become Obamer, idea would become idear, etc. Does anyone else notice this when they hear British people speaking? Any cause for why they do this? ---
**Author:** ![Jackmannii](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/jackmannii/32/311_2.png) [@Jackmannii](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Jackmannii)\ **Post date:** [February 21, 2009, 11:01pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/british-people-adding-r-at-end-of-words/486896/2 "2009-02-21T23:01:17Z")
> [@prolific9](#): > > I was watching Real Time /w Bill Maher yesterday and they had this British guest on. Words that ended with an A, she would add an extra R at the end. Obama would become Obamer, idea would become idear, etc. > > Does anyone else notice this when they hear British people speaking? Any cause for why they do this? It’s necessary for lawr and order. I sometimes listen to BBC World Service on public radio just to hear the British correspondettes talk about the lawr. I also like the way they pronounce “body” (comes out sounding like “bawwdy”). Occasionally I get a two-fer if they talk about a “bawwdy” of “lawr”. It’s just so cute. My appreciation of this probably stems from watching “The Avengers” too much in my youth and developing a mini-crush on Emma Peel. ---
**Author:** ![The\_Batman](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/t/22d042/32.png) [@The\_Batman](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/The_Batman)\ **Post date:** [February 21, 2009, 11:23pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/british-people-adding-r-at-end-of-words/486896/3 "2009-02-21T23:23:37Z")
It drives me nuts sometimes. Most of CNN International’s anchors are British and do this with every word that ends in/has an ‘a’: Obamer, Australier, Drawrings, Sarehr, Osamer, etc. And not just a light ‘r’ either, they really sound it off. ---
**Author:** ![matt\_mcl](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/7ab992/32.png) [@matt\_mcl](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/matt_mcl)\ **Post date:** [February 21, 2009, 11:23pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/british-people-adding-r-at-end-of-words/486896/4 "2009-02-21T23:23:45Z")
As you know, in “non-rhotic” British varieties (not all British varieties are this way), word-final ‘r’ is deleted. However, you can tell that the ‘r’ is still ‘there’ because it will still be realized when the word is followed by another word starting with a vowel, so that it won’t be pronounced in “fair trade,” but will be pronounced in “fair age.” Words ending in vowels that are pronounced the same way as if the words ended in ‘r’, such as ‘Obama’ (rhymes with ‘charmer’), can have ‘r’ inserted between themselves and a vowel-beginning word in the same way. This only works with vowel-ending words that are in fact homophonous to an ‘r’-ending word. It won’t work with other vowel-ending words, such as “party” or “latte,” because those aren’t contexts in which ‘r’ could otherwise be inserted. ---
**Author:** ![Fish](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/f/bc8723/32.png) [@Fish](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Fish)\ **Post date:** [February 21, 2009, 11:28pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/british-people-adding-r-at-end-of-words/486896/5 "2009-02-21T23:28:23Z")
Precisely. If you listen carefully, the R seems to be inserted in between vowels: between a word that ends in a vowel, and the next word beginning with a vowel. For instance, “America is” becomes “Americer is.” ---
**Author:** ![longPath](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/l/bb73d2/32.png) [@longPath](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/longPath)\ **Post date:** [February 21, 2009, 11:33pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/british-people-adding-r-at-end-of-words/486896/6 "2009-02-21T23:33:20Z")
> [@Jackmannii](#): > > It’s necessary for lawr and order. > > I sometimes listen to BBC World Service on public radio just to hear the British correspondettes talk about the lawr. I also like the way they pronounce “body” (comes out sounding like “bawwdy”). Occasionally I get a two-fer if they talk about a “bawwdy” of “lawr”. It’s just so cute. > > My appreciation of this probably stems from watching “The Avengers” too much in my youth and developing a mini-crush on Emma Peel. Only a mini-crush?? Diana Rigg? My maternal Grand-Parents were from around Lancashire (Southport and Preston) and this “R” thing was pretty much second nature as I recall. If you have access to “Coronation Street” you will hear this frequently. I was told it is part of commonspeak in and around Manchester. ---
**Author:** ![longPath](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/l/bb73d2/32.png) [@longPath](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/longPath)\ **Post date:** [February 21, 2009, 11:34pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/british-people-adding-r-at-end-of-words/486896/7 "2009-02-21T23:34:57Z")
> [@Jackmannii](#): > > It’s necessary for lawr and order. > > I sometimes listen to BBC World Service on public radio just to hear the British correspondettes talk about the lawr. I also like the way they pronounce “body” (comes out sounding like “bawwdy”). Occasionally I get a two-fer if they talk about a “bawwdy” of “lawr”. It’s just so cute. > > My appreciation of this probably stems from watching “The Avengers” too much in my youth and developing a mini-crush on Emma Peel. Only a mini-crush?? [Diana Rigg](http://theavengers.tv/forever/images/queenofsin.jpg)? My maternal Grand-Parents were from around Lancashire and this “R” thing was pretty much second nature as I recall. If you have access to “Coronation Street” you will hear this frequently. I was told it is part of commonspeak in and around Manchester. ---
**Author:** ![Vox\_Imperatoris](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/v/f9ae1b/32.png) [@Vox\_Imperatoris](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Vox_Imperatoris)\ **Post date:** [February 21, 2009, 11:38pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/british-people-adding-r-at-end-of-words/486896/8 "2009-02-21T23:38:22Z")
Many Southerners do this too, by the way, if you haven’t noticed. It shows how the Southern U.S. accent is really more similar to the British accent than “General American” is. Wikipedia has a good [article](http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Rhoticity) on this, with maps of Britain and America illustrating it. Valete, Vox Imperatoris ---
**Author:** ![mecaenas](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/91b2a8/32.png) [@mecaenas](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/mecaenas)\ **Post date:** [February 21, 2009, 11:44pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/british-people-adding-r-at-end-of-words/486896/9 "2009-02-21T23:44:49Z")
Well considering that English is their language and Americans have borrowed it, shouldn’t you be asking why Americans don’t speak this way? ---
**Author:** ![SciFiSam](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/47e85d/32.png) [@SciFiSam](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/SciFiSam)\ **Post date:** [February 21, 2009, 11:45pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/british-people-adding-r-at-end-of-words/486896/10 "2009-02-21T23:45:53Z")
> [@matt\_mcl](#): > > As you know, in “non-rhotic” British varieties (not all British varieties are this way), word-final ‘r’ is deleted. However, you can tell that the ‘r’ is still ‘there’ because it will still be realized when the word is followed by another word starting with a vowel, so that it won’t be pronounced in “fair trade,” but will be pronounced in “fair age.” > > Words ending in vowels that are pronounced the same way as if the words ended in ‘r’, such as ‘Obama’ (rhymes with ‘charmer’), can have ‘r’ inserted between themselves and a vowel-beginning word in the same way. > > This only works with vowel-ending words that are in fact homophonous to an ‘r’-ending word. It won’t work with other vowel-ending words, such as “party” or “latte,” because those aren’t contexts in which ‘r’ could otherwise be inserted. Yup. It’s called the [intrusive r](http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Linking_and_intrusive_R). (Wiki, I know, but it was the clearest link I found). Intrusive r avoids the ‘jump’ that occurs between words that end in vowel sounds followed by words that begin in vowel sounds. British people _definitely_ don’t add an r to the end of Obama (etc) when it’s not followed by a vowel. ---
**Author:** ![Lucky\_13](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/lucky_13/32/13209_2.png) [@Lucky\_13](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Lucky_13)\ **Post date:** [February 21, 2009, 11:52pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/british-people-adding-r-at-end-of-words/486896/11 "2009-02-21T23:52:42Z")
The example of this that comes to my mind is Oasis singing “Champagne Supernover.” ---
**Author:** ![Mangetout](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/mangetout/32/19_2.png) [@Mangetout](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Mangetout)\ **Post date:** [February 22, 2009, 12:14am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/british-people-adding-r-at-end-of-words/486896/12 "2009-02-22T00:14:21Z")
It’s just normal pronunciation here - it’s not because people are being lazy or sloppy - it’s just the way things are different. ---
**Author:** ![SciFiSam](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/47e85d/32.png) [@SciFiSam](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/SciFiSam)\ **Post date:** [February 22, 2009, 12:41am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/british-people-adding-r-at-end-of-words/486896/13 "2009-02-22T00:41:57Z")
> [@Lucky\_13](#): > > The example of this that comes to my mind is Oasis singing “Champagne Supernover.” That’s because it’s followed by ‘in.’ ---
**Author:** ![Siam\_Sam](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/d78d45/32.png) [@Siam\_Sam](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Siam_Sam)\ **Post date:** [February 22, 2009, 3:33am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/british-people-adding-r-at-end-of-words/486896/14 "2009-02-22T03:33:04Z")
“Lawr” and “Chiner” are the two I most notice on BBC. ---
**Author:** ![uglybeech](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/u/82dd89/32.png) [@uglybeech](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/uglybeech)\ **Post date:** [February 22, 2009, 3:51am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/british-people-adding-r-at-end-of-words/486896/15 "2009-02-22T03:51:07Z")
Same thing in Boston: That’s a spectacula idear! ---
**Author:** ![elfkin477](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/e/a9a28c/32.png) [@elfkin477](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/elfkin477)\ **Post date:** [February 22, 2009, 3:57am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/british-people-adding-r-at-end-of-words/486896/16 "2009-02-22T03:57:49Z")
It’s our fault. Here in New England, we export most of our Rs to other places where they can make better use of them. (and we import Hs from the UK) That’s why you hear people say “Close the cah doah, theyah’s a draft coming in!” Children under the age of twelve some times snitch them to put on the end of the word “idea” but we just ship off the rest of them elsewhere. Rs are our number 2 export, second only to real maple syrup. ---
**Author:** ![Siam\_Sam](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/d78d45/32.png) [@Siam\_Sam](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Siam_Sam)\ **Post date:** [February 22, 2009, 4:24am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/british-people-adding-r-at-end-of-words/486896/17 "2009-02-22T04:24:37Z")
There’s some sort of Law of Rs in physics that regulates the number of Rs in the universe. For example, ones that go missing in Boston (“Pahk ya cah in Hahvahd Yahd”) will reapper intact in Texas (“Gonner drill me an earl well.”) ---
**Author:** ![T.Slothrop](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/t/3e96dc/32.png) [@T.Slothrop](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/T.Slothrop)\ **Post date:** [February 22, 2009, 5:25am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/british-people-adding-r-at-end-of-words/486896/18 "2009-02-22T05:25:56Z")
My mother is Australian and our neighbor, Linda, was of course “Linder.” She got used to it. Mandarin speakers from Beijing add an "r"sound to the end of words also, but it’s more of a growling “r” sound than the “r” added to Linda. ---
**Author:** ![GuanoLad](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/guanolad/32/42_2.png) [@GuanoLad](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/GuanoLad)\ **Post date:** [February 22, 2009, 5:40am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/british-people-adding-r-at-end-of-words/486896/19 "2009-02-22T05:40:10Z")
I have absolutely no idea what the hell any of you are talking about. Can you point to an online example? ---
**Author:** ![Vox\_Imperatoris](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/v/f9ae1b/32.png) [@Vox\_Imperatoris](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Vox_Imperatoris)\ **Post date:** [February 22, 2009, 6:30am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/british-people-adding-r-at-end-of-words/486896/20 "2009-02-22T06:30:53Z")
> [@GuanoLad](#): > > I have absolutely no idea what the hell any of you are talking about. Can you point to an online example? I tried to find one, but those words that might be affected by it are not as common as you might think. Just think of any stereotypical British person’s accent, or especially mockeries of British (or Southern) accents. I’ll keep looking, though. Valete, Vox Imperatoris [Next page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/british-people-adding-r-at-end-of-words/486896.md?page=2)