# British Reality Show Co. Brighter Pictures Can Bite Me Over and Over **URL:** \ **Category:** The BBQ Pit\ **Created:** [October 31, 2003, 8:51pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/british-reality-show-co-brighter-pictures-can-bite-me-over-and-over/210724 "2003-10-31T20:51:41Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 20\ **Page:** 2
**Author:** ![Eve](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/e/9e8a1a/32.png) [@Eve](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Eve)\ **Post date:** [October 31, 2003, 11:31pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/british-reality-show-co-brighter-pictures-can-bite-me-over-and-over/210724/21 "2003-10-31T23:31:13Z")
As far as I’m concerned, any man would be damned lucky to have me “foisted” upon him, and the fact that I have removed myself from the dating pool should be a source of nationwide teeth-gnashing and wailing. ---
**Author:** ![gobear](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/g/8dc957/32.png) [@gobear](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/gobear)\ **Post date:** [October 31, 2003, 11:47pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/british-reality-show-co-brighter-pictures-can-bite-me-over-and-over/210724/22 "2003-10-31T23:47:04Z")
> [@](#): > > \*Originally posted by Ilsa\_Lund \* > \*\*A Lillian Gish DVD!??!?!?!??! > I mean, I have Birth of a Nation on DVD, but as a comfort movie? \*\* Orphans of the Storm is a terrific film. ---
**Author:** ![Jabba](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/j/b5e925/32.png) [@Jabba](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Jabba)\ **Post date:** [October 31, 2003, 11:52pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/british-reality-show-co-brighter-pictures-can-bite-me-over-and-over/210724/23 "2003-10-31T23:52:50Z")
And what about _The Wind_? Very comforting, I thought. ---
**Author:** ![Coldfire](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/c/a587f6/32.png) [@Coldfire](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Coldfire)\ **Post date:** [November 1, 2003, 12:02am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/british-reality-show-co-brighter-pictures-can-bite-me-over-and-over/210724/24 "2003-11-01T00:02:08Z")
> [@](#): > > \*Originally posted by Eve \* > **Brighter Pictures is a subsidiary of Endemol, the company that makes "Big Brother."** If it makes you feel any better: that means you can blame the Dutch, too. 🙂 ---
**Author:** ![Guinastasia](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/guinastasia/32/5751_2.png) [@Guinastasia](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Guinastasia)\ **Post date:** [November 1, 2003, 12:05am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/british-reality-show-co-brighter-pictures-can-bite-me-over-and-over/210724/25 "2003-11-01T00:05:30Z")
> [@](#): > > \*Originally posted by Eve \* > \*\*As far as I’m concerned, any man would be damned lucky to have me “foisted” upon him, and the fact that I have removed myself from the dating pool should be a source of nationwide teeth-gnashing and wailing. \*\* Damn straight, **Eve**! DAMN straight. ---
**Author:** ![Rilchiam](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/r/2bfe46/32.png) [@Rilchiam](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Rilchiam)\ **Post date:** [November 1, 2003, 12:11pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/british-reality-show-co-brighter-pictures-can-bite-me-over-and-over/210724/26 "2003-11-01T12:11:30Z")
> [@](#): > > \*Originally posted by MrMyth \* > \*\*Yeah, I ran into this story on another board I frequent, and I immediately thought of ho pissed **Eve** was gonna be \*\* Don’t you call **Eve** a ho! ---
**Author:** ![Gyrate](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/gyrate/32/3588_2.png) [@Gyrate](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Gyrate)\ **Post date:** [November 1, 2003, 12:17pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/british-reality-show-co-brighter-pictures-can-bite-me-over-and-over/210724/27 "2003-11-01T12:17:45Z")
> [@](#): > > \*Originally posted by gobear \* > \*\*That’s appalling. And so sadly true that transsexuals are treated as walking punchlines by the media. \*\* While I fully understand **Eve** ’s outrage and irritation at this particular show concept, who _isn’t_ treated as a walking punchline by the media these days? Do you think the six men came out of this situation looking like innocent victims? Humiliation television is just a bad idea all around. I blame Allen Funt, myself. ---
**Author:** ![matt\_mcl](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/7ab992/32.png) [@matt\_mcl](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/matt_mcl)\ **Post date:** [November 1, 2003, 3:16pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/british-reality-show-co-brighter-pictures-can-bite-me-over-and-over/210724/28 "2003-11-01T15:16:34Z")
_great big fat :rolleyes::mad:_ _triple underlines and exclamation points for “Train to present Gender 101 Sensitivity Workshops” in my agenda_ ---
**Author:** ![KellyM](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/k/57b2e6/32.png) [@KellyM](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/KellyM)\ **Post date:** [November 1, 2003, 3:25pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/british-reality-show-co-brighter-pictures-can-bite-me-over-and-over/210724/29 "2003-11-01T15:25:58Z")
Reality shows like this should be categorized as hate speech. ---
**Author:** ![Eve](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/e/9e8a1a/32.png) [@Eve](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Eve)\ **Post date:** [November 1, 2003, 3:41pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/british-reality-show-co-brighter-pictures-can-bite-me-over-and-over/210724/30 "2003-11-01T15:41:47Z")
> [@](#): > > \*Originally posted by MrMyth \* > \*\*But she’s screwed herself, because now her picture is all over the internet. > > No more dates for you, miss. Ever.\*\* Sadly true, probably. To paraphrase Mrs. Parker, “Men seldom pinch fannies of girls who are trannies.” ---
**Author:** ![KellyM](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/k/57b2e6/32.png) [@KellyM](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/KellyM)\ **Post date:** [November 1, 2003, 4:20pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/british-reality-show-co-brighter-pictures-can-bite-me-over-and-over/210724/31 "2003-11-01T16:20:13Z")
Well, I wouldn’t date her. I don’t care for fake boobs, which hers so clearly are. ---
**Author:** ![hajario](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/hajario/32/171_2.png) [@hajario](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/hajario)\ **Post date:** [November 1, 2003, 7:19pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/british-reality-show-co-brighter-pictures-can-bite-me-over-and-over/210724/32 "2003-11-01T19:19:26Z")
Never, ever, ever agree to go on any sort of day time talk show or reality TV show. There will be a twist and you will not like it. Haj ---
**Author:** ![Una\_Persson](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/una_persson/32/346_2.png) [@Una\_Persson](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Una_Persson)\ **Post date:** [November 1, 2003, 10:05pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/british-reality-show-co-brighter-pictures-can-bite-me-over-and-over/210724/33 "2003-11-01T22:05:16Z")
> [@](#): > > \*Originally posted by Eve \* > **. . . And now I see that most news sites are putting this in the funny “You Can’t Make This Stuff Up!” section, because transsexuals are _funny_, people!! _Get_ it? We’re hilarious, undateable freaks who have no business trying to meet men! Ha-ha!** What’s even sadder is when TG/TS individuals not only cannot find support from the G/L/Bi commnities, they are ostracized and even openly attacked by self-called “gay crusaders”. I guess it’s all about hate more than doing what’s right. :rolleyes: > [@](#): > > \*\*I _really_ need to punch someone’s lights out right now. I _hope_ someone tries to mug me on my way home. \*\* Seeing you write this reminds me of a Simpson’s episode where a wealthy-looking cultured woman in New York is pushed aside by Homer, and she exclaims something along the lines of “Dear me! I certainly hope someone stabs that gentleman!” 🙂 ---
**Author:** ![Michael\_Ellis](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/977dab/32.png) [@Michael\_Ellis](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Michael_Ellis)\ **Post date:** [November 1, 2003, 10:26pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/british-reality-show-co-brighter-pictures-can-bite-me-over-and-over/210724/34 "2003-11-01T22:26:07Z")
> [@](#): > > \*Originally posted by Eve \* > \*\*As far as I’m concerned, any man would be damned lucky to have me “foisted” upon him, and the fact that I have removed myself from the dating pool should be a source of nationwide teeth-gnashing and wailing. \*\* I agree. I’m gnashing my teeth right now. ---
**Author:** ![Eve](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/e/9e8a1a/32.png) [@Eve](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Eve)\ **Post date:** [November 1, 2003, 10:32pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/british-reality-show-co-brighter-pictures-can-bite-me-over-and-over/210724/35 "2003-11-01T22:32:52Z")
> [@](#): > > \*Originally posted by hajario \* > \*\*Never, ever, ever agree to go on any sort of day time talk show or reality TV show. There will be a twist and you will not like it. > > Haj \*\* Don’t I know it! I’ve turned down invites from Geraldo and his ilk, but once agreed to appear on _Donahue_, imaging it would be a dignifed discussion of the topic. I was laboring under a misapprehension: when I got there, I was joined by a F-to-M transsexual, a drag queen, a transvestite, a hermaphrodite, the Professor and Mary Ann. All that was missing was Johnny Eck on a table chanting “Geeble Gobble, one of us!” ---
**Author:** ![gobear](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/g/8dc957/32.png) [@gobear](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/gobear)\ **Post date:** [November 1, 2003, 10:44pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/british-reality-show-co-brighter-pictures-can-bite-me-over-and-over/210724/36 "2003-11-01T22:44:39Z")
> [@](#): > > What’s even sadder is when TG/TS individuals not only cannot find support from the G/L/Bi commnities, they are ostracized and even openly attacked by self-called “gay crusaders”. I guess it’s all about hate more than doing what’s right. Cite? ---
**Author:** ![KellyM](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/k/57b2e6/32.png) [@KellyM](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/KellyM)\ **Post date:** [November 1, 2003, 11:13pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/british-reality-show-co-brighter-pictures-can-bite-me-over-and-over/210724/37 "2003-11-01T23:13:32Z")
**Una** , to be fair, a lot of gay people don’t really know what transsexuals are like, since so many of them are in the closet. Their image is warped, the same way it is for the rest of the public, by people like Miriam and all those others that show up on shows like Geraldo and Montel. **gobear** : Norah Vincent. Less recently, Janice Raymond. The Michigan Womyn’s Music Festival and it’s “womyn-born-womyn” policy. There are others. Some threads in which these have been discussed before are cited below: [cite](http://boards.straightdope.com/sdmb/showthread.php?s=&postid=1114865) (Norah Vincent) [cite](http://boards.straightdope.com/sdmb/showthread.php?s=&postid=2166591) (Norah Vincent, MWMF, general discussion) [cite](http://boards.straightdope.com/sdmb/showthread.php?s=&postid=3305789) (Janice Raymond, general discussion) [cite](http://boards.straightdope.com/sdmb/showthread.php?s=&threadid=111537) (Discussion, see second page especially) [cite](http://boards.straightdope.com/sdmb/showthread.php?s=&postid=2158862) (Discussion) You may find cites to other material in these threads. I was reluctant to identify as lesbian for a long time because of my transgendered status. ---
**Author:** ![matt\_mcl](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/7ab992/32.png) [@matt\_mcl](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/matt_mcl)\ **Post date:** [November 2, 2003, 3:45am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/british-reality-show-co-brighter-pictures-can-bite-me-over-and-over/210724/38 "2003-11-02T03:45:42Z")
Mr. Norah Vincent is a giant asshole, that’s for damn sure. I remember when that (“I would call an FTM transsexual Ms, because grammar is based on chromosomes” - yes, that was Vincent’s argument) came out in the Advocate. I was **not** happy. ---
**Author:** ![Guinastasia](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/guinastasia/32/5751_2.png) [@Guinastasia](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Guinastasia)\ **Post date:** [November 2, 2003, 4:39am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/british-reality-show-co-brighter-pictures-can-bite-me-over-and-over/210724/39 "2003-11-02T04:39:26Z")
Hell, you should see the hostility directed at MtFs at Ms., as well as calling FtMs “traitors.” It’s a small minority, but it’s a rather vocal one. And quite nasty. ---
**Author:** ![Pixiesnix](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/p/898d66/32.png) [@Pixiesnix](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Pixiesnix)\ **Post date:** [November 2, 2003, 5:12am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/british-reality-show-co-brighter-pictures-can-bite-me-over-and-over/210724/40 "2003-11-02T05:12:04Z")
Shameful. Truly shameful for everyone involved with the show. On the other hand, I now understand how NBC had the stones to put _Average Joe_ into production. [Previous page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/british-reality-show-co-brighter-pictures-can-bite-me-over-and-over/210724.md?page=1) [Next page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/british-reality-show-co-brighter-pictures-can-bite-me-over-and-over/210724.md?page=3)