# British style on acronyms

**URL:** <https://boards.straightdope.com/t/british-style-on-acronyms/473235>\
**Category:** Factual Questions\
**Created:** [November 18, 2008, 3:11am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/british-style-on-acronyms/473235 "2008-11-18T03:11:49Z")\
**Posts on this page:** 10\
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**Author:** ![Capt.Ridley\_s\_Shooting\_Party](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/c/cc9497/32.png) [@Capt.Ridley\_s\_Shooting\_Party](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Capt.Ridley_s_Shooting_Party)\
**Post date:** [November 19, 2008, 3:52pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/british-style-on-acronyms/473235/21 "2008-11-19T15:52:33Z")

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The Guardian. A take on the paper’s reputation as being filled with spelling errors.

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**Author:** ![jayjay](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/jayjay/32/6765_2.png) [@jayjay](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/jayjay)\
**Post date:** [November 19, 2008, 3:55pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/british-style-on-acronyms/473235/22 "2008-11-19T15:55:20Z")

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> [@Capt.Ridley\_s\_Shooting\_Party](#):
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> The Guardian. A take on the paper’s reputation as being filled with spelling errors.

Ah. Okay. I knew it was referring to The Guardian, but I thought maybe “Grauniad” meant something in particular and I just hadn’t come across the word before.

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**Author:** ![Little\_Nemo](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/little_nemo/32/3120_2.png) [@Little\_Nemo](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Little_Nemo)\
**Post date:** [November 19, 2008, 3:59pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/british-style-on-acronyms/473235/23 "2008-11-19T15:59:59Z")

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It’s hard to say whether the British style would make this [headline](http://www.oddee.com/_media/imgs/articles/a213_n8.jpg) more or less confusing.

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**Author:** ![Sunspace](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/sunspace/32/1250_2.png) [@Sunspace](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Sunspace)\
**Post date:** [November 19, 2008, 4:37pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/british-style-on-acronyms/473235/24 "2008-11-19T16:37:46Z")

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> [@Indistinguishable](#):
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> It starts with an /r/ and rhymes with “Nazi”. I suppose you could say that’s just pronouncing the first syllable “as a word” and spelling out the last letter… but anyway, that’s how it’s done.

‘Rot-see’ rhymes with ‘Nazi’? Maybe it’s dialect differences, but I pronounce ‘Nazi’ to rhyme with ‘cat-see’, not ‘bought-see’.

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**Author:** ![MarcusF](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/67e7ee/32.png) [@MarcusF](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/MarcusF)\
**Post date:** [November 19, 2008, 7:55pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/british-style-on-acronyms/473235/25 "2008-11-19T19:55:29Z")

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As another reference point the the Oxford Guide to Style (from he OUP - all upper case, not pronounced as a word 😃 ) says:

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> Any all-capital proper-name acronym is, in some house styles, fashioned with a single initial capital if it exceeds four leters (_Basic_, _Unesco_, _Unicef_). Editors should avoid this rule, useful though it is, where the result runs against the common practice of a discipline (_CARPE_, _SSHRCC_, _WYSIWYG_), or where similar terms would be treated dissimilarly based on length alone.

Make of that what you will!

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> Originally posted by **FRDE** :  
> \*A few days I cooked up a semi-explanation using ‘Nazi’ versus ‘NSDAP’, where pronunciation had diverged from spelling. \*

Surely Nazi is an acronym just from \*Nationalsozialist \* - not from NSDAP the abbreviation for the political party?

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**Author:** ![pulykamell](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/pulykamell/32/3166_2.png) [@pulykamell](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/pulykamell)\
**Post date:** [November 19, 2008, 8:00pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/british-style-on-acronyms/473235/26 "2008-11-19T20:00:46Z")

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> [@Sunspace](#):
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> ‘Rot-see’ rhymes with ‘Nazi’? Maybe it’s dialect differences, but I pronounce ‘Nazi’ to rhyme with ‘cat-see’, not ‘bought-see’.

Rhymes in my dialect. NAH-tsee, RAH-tsee.

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**Author:** ![jayjay](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/jayjay/32/6765_2.png) [@jayjay](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/jayjay)\
**Post date:** [November 19, 2008, 8:06pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/british-style-on-acronyms/473235/27 "2008-11-19T20:06:49Z")

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> [@pulykamell](#):
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> Rhymes in my dialect. NAH-tsee, RAH-tsee.

“Nazi, Schmazi!”  
says Werner von Braun…

-Tom Lehrer

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**Author:** ![Huerta88](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/h/82dd89/32.png) [@Huerta88](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Huerta88)\
**Post date:** [November 19, 2008, 8:09pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/british-style-on-acronyms/473235/28 "2008-11-19T20:09:41Z")

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> [@Sunspace](#):
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> ‘Rot-see’ rhymes with ‘Nazi’? Maybe it’s dialect differences, but I pronounce ‘Nazi’ to rhyme with ‘cat-see’, not ‘bought-see’.

I think of that (your way) as the older (or older, British) way of doing it. I am not sure which is closer to how a German would pronounce the first two syllables of “Nazional.” I kind of think it would be the latter.

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**Author:** ![Mr.Slant](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/c57346/32.png) [@Mr.Slant](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Mr.Slant)\
**Post date:** [November 19, 2008, 8:53pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/british-style-on-acronyms/473235/29 "2008-11-19T20:53:21Z")

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Here in the US, 99% of speakers will pronounce Nazi as  
“Not-zee”  
I’ve met ONE man, Dr. Conklin at the old sociology department, who pronounced it “Nat-zee”.

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**Author:** ![Mk\_VII](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/5f9b8f/32.png) [@Mk\_VII](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Mk_VII)\
**Post date:** [November 19, 2008, 11:28pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/british-style-on-acronyms/473235/30 "2008-11-19T23:28:49Z")

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Here it would be nart-see. Scarcely anyone would follow Churchill’s “narrzee”.

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