# Britney Spears loses custody **URL:** \ **Category:** Cafe Society\ **Created:** [October 1, 2007, 9:10pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/britney-spears-loses-custody/421201 "2007-10-01T21:10:16Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 20\ **Page:** 1
**Author:** ![Rilchiam](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/r/2bfe46/32.png) [@Rilchiam](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Rilchiam)\ **Post date:** [October 1, 2007, 9:10pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/britney-spears-loses-custody/421201/1 "2007-10-01T21:10:16Z")
[About time.](http://www.cnn.com/2007/SHOWBIZ/Music/10/01/spears.federline/index.html) I won’t go into the numerous ways she neglected to give them proper care, except for one: driving them around constantly, knowing that there are going to be photographers at every stop. Flashflashflashflashflashflashflash, every time, and she just sits there basking in it. I don’t expect her to realize the effect that could have on their vision, or the possiblity of triggering seizures, but it’s one of those things that a good parent **would** think of. She didn’t, so she’s not. ---
**Author:** ![dropzone](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/dropzone/32/7515_2.png) [@dropzone](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/dropzone)\ **Post date:** [October 1, 2007, 9:23pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/britney-spears-loses-custody/421201/2 "2007-10-01T21:23:23Z")
Well, seizures are only triggered in **sensitive** people by **rhythmic** flashing lights, and we have no suggestion her kids are epileptic, but why let the truth stand in the way of a flaming? Not that she’s a good mom, but you’d make a better argument if you stuck with the facts. ---
**Author:** ![cochrane](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/cochrane/32/10441_2.png) [@cochrane](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/cochrane)\ **Post date:** [October 1, 2007, 9:26pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/britney-spears-loses-custody/421201/3 "2007-10-01T21:26:29Z")
I would call that a very minor concern next to driving around without her children in car seats or the whole “habitual, frequent, and continuous use of controlled substances and alcohol” thing she has going. I’m glad to see K-Fed taking such interest in his kids and showing concern for their welfare. I certainly do hope Britney clears up the issues in her life and once again rejoins the ranks of reasonably functioning human beings. ---
**Author:** ![Swallowed\_My\_Cellphone](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/9d8465/32.png) [@Swallowed\_My\_Cellphone](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Swallowed_My_Cellphone)\ **Post date:** [October 1, 2007, 9:27pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/britney-spears-loses-custody/421201/4 "2007-10-01T21:27:06Z")
[QUOTE=dropzone] Well, seizures are only triggered in **sensitive** people by **rhythmic** flashing lights, and we have no suggestion her kids are epileptic, but why let the truth stand in the way of a flaming? Not that she’s a good mom, but you’d make a better argument if you stuck with the facts. [/QUOTE] I think the OP has a little tongue in cheak there due to the media’s over-saturation of Spears’s defficient parental skills. (Clearly, flash bulbs are the _least_ of the kids worries.) ---
**Author:** ![Sampiro](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/2acd7d/32.png) [@Sampiro](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Sampiro)\ **Post date:** [October 1, 2007, 9:38pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/britney-spears-loses-custody/421201/5 "2007-10-01T21:38:03Z")
Does anybody know what Federline’s custody arrangements are with his two children by Shar Jackson? ---
**Author:** ![dropzone](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/dropzone/32/7515_2.png) [@dropzone](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/dropzone)\ **Post date:** [October 1, 2007, 9:45pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/britney-spears-loses-custody/421201/6 "2007-10-01T21:45:33Z")
Well, if I was whooshed, I apologize. People are so happy to create libels beyond the truth I fell for yet another one. ☹ ---
**Author:** ![PunditLisa](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/p/4af34b/32.png) [@PunditLisa](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/PunditLisa)\ **Post date:** [October 1, 2007, 9:48pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/britney-spears-loses-custody/421201/7 "2007-10-01T21:48:04Z")
Those poor kids. ---
**Author:** ![eleanorigby](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/e/ee7513/32.png) [@eleanorigby](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/eleanorigby)\ **Post date:** [October 1, 2007, 9:50pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/britney-spears-loses-custody/421201/8 "2007-10-01T21:50:34Z")
[QUOTE=PunditLisa] Those poor kids. [/QUOTE] Yep. ---
**Author:** ![Diogenes\_the\_Cynic](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/e99b99/32.png) [@Diogenes\_the\_Cynic](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Diogenes_the_Cynic)\ **Post date:** [October 1, 2007, 9:53pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/britney-spears-loses-custody/421201/9 "2007-10-01T21:53:44Z")
[QUOTE=Sampiro] Does anybody know what Federline’s custody arrangements are with his two children by Shar Jackson? [/QUOTE] I’m so embarrassed that I know this, but I saw on some tabloid show once that Jackson has full custody with some financial support and visitation by Federline. Amazingly, Shar Jackson has been fairly defensive of K-Fed saying he’s “such a nice guy” and that, regardless of his buffoonish image, he does have a loving relationship with all his kids. Contrary to what anyone might have predicted a few years ago, K-Fed might actually be the more responsible parent. ---
**Author:** ![Sampiro](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/2acd7d/32.png) [@Sampiro](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Sampiro)\ **Post date:** [October 1, 2007, 9:54pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/britney-spears-loses-custody/421201/10 "2007-10-01T21:54:17Z")
Ah, the kids’ll be fine once the reality show finds them new parents. (I’m just hoping that Flavor Flav or that nekkid gay prison guy from _Survivor_ don’t win them.) ---
**Author:** ![Happy\_Lendervedder](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/happy_lendervedder/32/8488_2.png) [@Happy\_Lendervedder](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Happy_Lendervedder)\ **Post date:** [October 1, 2007, 10:05pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/britney-spears-loses-custody/421201/11 "2007-10-01T22:05:20Z")
Loses custody of her kids, eh? Well, maybe now she’ll get back to the things that really matter in life: club-hopping without panties. ---
**Author:** ![Rilchiam](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/r/2bfe46/32.png) [@Rilchiam](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Rilchiam)\ **Post date:** [October 1, 2007, 11:17pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/britney-spears-loses-custody/421201/12 "2007-10-01T23:17:24Z")
[QUOTE=Swallowed My Cellphone] I think the OP has a little tongue in cheak there due to the media’s over-saturation of Spears’s defficient parental skills. (Clearly, flash bulbs are the _least_ of the kids worries.) [/QUOTE] Right. I didn’t have time to list all her deficiencies; I had a lot of windows open. ---
**Author:** ![KneadToKnow](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/kneadtoknow/32/3999_2.png) [@KneadToKnow](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/KneadToKnow)\ **Post date:** [October 1, 2007, 11:19pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/britney-spears-loses-custody/421201/13 "2007-10-01T23:19:35Z")
[QUOTE=eleanorigby] Yep. [/QUOTE] Double yep. ---
**Author:** ![Zabali\_Clawbane](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/z/ecd19e/32.png) [@Zabali\_Clawbane](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Zabali_Clawbane)\ **Post date:** [October 1, 2007, 11:22pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/britney-spears-loses-custody/421201/14 "2007-10-01T23:22:00Z")
What about the fact that she got arrested for hit and run, and it came out that she has _never_ had a California driver’s liscense, and has been photographed recently drinking and driving? Yes, it’s a good thing they took custody away from her! ---
**Author:** ![Cervaise](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/cervaise/32/16693_2.png) [@Cervaise](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Cervaise)\ **Post date:** [October 1, 2007, 11:24pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/britney-spears-loses-custody/421201/15 "2007-10-01T23:24:59Z")
[QUOTE=Sampiro] Ah, the kids’ll be fine once the reality show finds them new parents. [/QUOTE] You only think you’re joking. I give us five years, ten tops, before “Place the Orphan!” is the next primetime reality hit. ---
**Author:** ![Zabali\_Clawbane](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/z/ecd19e/32.png) [@Zabali\_Clawbane](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Zabali_Clawbane)\ **Post date:** [October 1, 2007, 11:25pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/britney-spears-loses-custody/421201/16 "2007-10-01T23:25:47Z")
[Cite](http://www.cnn.com/2007/SHOWBIZ/Music/09/22/spears.legal.woes.ap/index.html?eref=rss_topstories) and [cite](http://www.reuters.com/article/wtMostRead/idUSN2145435720070922) on the hit and run charges. ETA: [This](http://usmagazine.com/britney_crying) article mentions her lack of California Driver’s license. ---
**Author:** ![Biggirl](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/biggirl/32/3294_2.png) [@Biggirl](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Biggirl)\ **Post date:** [October 1, 2007, 11:37pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/britney-spears-loses-custody/421201/17 "2007-10-01T23:37:36Z")
Alrighty, this is the timeline that I’ve gathered from the exacting science of all the celeb gossip I love to hear about. Britney drops kid. Britney drives with kid in one hand and coffee in the other. Britney divorces Kevin. Britney leaves kids with nanny to go on two day bender. Kevin takes kids. Britney shows up at Kevin’s house in a state and he refuses to let her in because she’s not rational. She proves this by attacking pap with umbrella. Kevin tells lawyers to hold off on permenant custody so that Brit could go to rehab and clean herself up. Britney spends a few days in rehab. Britney spends another couple of days in rehab. Britney continues to do crazy things for months. Britney takes kids to Vegas against court orders and crashes her car then drives away. Kevin gets custody of kids. Couple this with the fact that Shar Jackson said, after the OK! magazine incident where Britney again acted like a crazy, drugged out fool, that Kevin is a good person and father and that she would never leave her kids alone with Britney. . … Yeah, looks like the courts made the right decision. ---
**Author:** ![Slacker](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/6bbea6/32.png) [@Slacker](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Slacker)\ **Post date:** [October 1, 2007, 11:43pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/britney-spears-loses-custody/421201/18 "2007-10-01T23:43:21Z")
Whatever happened with that OK! Magazine story anyway? I had heard at one point that they were going to publish omg!shocking pictures of that wheels-off photoshoot, but I never heard anything else about it. ---
**Author:** ![phouka](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/p/c5a1d2/32.png) [@phouka](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/phouka)\ **Post date:** [October 2, 2007, 12:00am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/britney-spears-loses-custody/421201/19 "2007-10-02T00:00:29Z")
You know, my mom had a saying I heard a lot as a kid: “If you try hard enough, you can break just about anything.” Of course, she wasn’t talking about just the soy sauce bottle my brother and I were playing table hockey with. Such a sad, sad situation. Such a messed up woman. I hope she pulls her shit together and figures her head out, but I won’t be very surprised if she doesn’t manage it. ---
**Author:** ![SnakesCatLady](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/4af34b/32.png) [@SnakesCatLady](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/SnakesCatLady)\ **Post date:** [October 2, 2007, 1:50am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/britney-spears-loses-custody/421201/20 "2007-10-02T01:50:55Z")
Actually, I could give less than a shit about Britney, but I hope those kids can get even a small chance at a normal life. I don’t care if she sobers up or drinks/drugs herself into oblivion - just so long as her kids don’t have to watch her do it, or get harmed in the process. [Next page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/britney-spears-loses-custody/421201.md?page=2)