# Britney Spears owes me ten bucks--and a blank morality check.

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**Category:** The BBQ Pit\
**Created:** [July 11, 2002, 4:27am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/britney-spears-owes-me-ten-bucks-and-a-blank-morality-check/118366 "2002-07-11T04:27:36Z")\
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**Author:** ![JRDelirious](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/jrdelirious/32/9531_2.png) [@JRDelirious](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/JRDelirious)\
**Post date:** [July 11, 2002, 4:36pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/britney-spears-owes-me-ten-bucks-and-a-blank-morality-check/118366/21 "2002-07-11T16:36:20Z")

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**Sofa King** , that was splendid. A classic, indeed.

And I definitely will need to arrange to be at that station when the next BS tour passes thru town 😃

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**Author:** ![Ferrous](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/f/8e7dd6/32.png) [@Ferrous](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Ferrous)\
**Post date:** [July 11, 2002, 4:41pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/britney-spears-owes-me-ten-bucks-and-a-blank-morality-check/118366/22 "2002-07-11T16:41:45Z")

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> \*Originally posted by Sofa King \*  
> \*\*Anyway, there’s no point to this vaguely incriminating narrative, except to say that I’m sorry I want to screw your little Britney fan. I promise I won’t do it. \*\*

Classic!😃

Yep, been there, NOT done that.

Excellent OP, **King**.

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**Author:** ![dublos](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/f08c70/32.png) [@dublos](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/dublos)\
**Post date:** [July 11, 2002, 4:45pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/britney-spears-owes-me-ten-bucks-and-a-blank-morality-check/118366/23 "2002-07-11T16:45:47Z")

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**Jayjay**

For me… about the same, but without the component of “been there felt similarly” involved.

I don’t care which gender they are watching, if they are more interested in the players, apparently from a sexual view point, than the game I’d feel equally oogy. And the longer they stayed to watch, the worse it would get.

Others milage may vary.

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**Author:** ![Gatopescado](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/gatopescado/32/5711_2.png) [@Gatopescado](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Gatopescado)\
**Post date:** [July 11, 2002, 4:51pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/britney-spears-owes-me-ten-bucks-and-a-blank-morality-check/118366/24 "2002-07-11T16:51:04Z")

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God, I have this same problem whenever the Rodeo is in town and they have the sheepherdering program! All those young, firm clean ewe lambs strutting around…😃

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**Author:** ![Homebrew](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/h/c89c15/32.png) [@Homebrew](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Homebrew)\
**Post date:** [July 11, 2002, 4:51pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/britney-spears-owes-me-ten-bucks-and-a-blank-morality-check/118366/25 "2002-07-11T16:51:57Z")

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Oh, there goes **jayjay** trying to start an intellectual discussion in here.

I was going to make a joke about how being gay would have actually been advantageous in this circumstance.

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**Author:** ![wring](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/w/838e76/32.png) [@wring](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/wring)\
**Post date:** [July 11, 2002, 5:15pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/britney-spears-owes-me-ten-bucks-and-a-blank-morality-check/118366/26 "2002-07-11T17:15:48Z")

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When my son was about 11, he played a minor role in a children’s production of _The Wizard of Oz_. He then had a major growth spurt, so, by the time he was 15, he was nearly 6 feet tall (he’s now 6/1 - 6/2).

We were heading into a grocery store, when I saw this young woman scoping my son out. :eek: she then turned and saw me, and greeted me warmly, because, you see, she had played Dorothy in the above mentioned production, and remembered me from when I was corralling the 60 under 8 year olds in the green room.

Oh, hi I said, and you remember my son, Ben, don’t you?

the look on her face as she realized that she’d just been oggling this same person who she’d known as ‘just a kid’ was priceless.

😃

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**Author:** ![Shodan](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/9f8e36/32.png) [@Shodan](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Shodan)\
**Post date:** [July 11, 2002, 5:53pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/britney-spears-owes-me-ten-bucks-and-a-blank-morality-check/118366/27 "2002-07-11T17:53:50Z")

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> \*Originally posted by SPOOFE \*  
> \*\*OH MY GOD, THE OLSON TWINS HAVE THE SAME BIRTHDAY AS ME!!!
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> Now I want to put a gun in my mouth… \*\*

Gee, **SPOOFE** , you’re seventeen? Maybe you should take better care of yourself.

Regards,  
Shodan

PS - Money magazine estimates the net worth of Mary Kate and Ashley at $38 million. No wonder my daughter can’t save any of her allowance.

Still nothing to compare to the Bush twins as jailbait. They are also young, rich, and pretty, but drunk and dumb to boot. Where were these women when I was single?

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**Author:** ![Kamandi](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/k/5daacb/32.png) [@Kamandi](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Kamandi)\
**Post date:** [July 11, 2002, 6:30pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/britney-spears-owes-me-ten-bucks-and-a-blank-morality-check/118366/28 "2002-07-11T18:30:49Z")

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> \*Originally posted by jayjay \*  
> \*\*Question:
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> How would any of you react (mentally/viscerally, not physically) to a 30-year-old man obviously watching a group of 14-year-old boys playing shirts&skins basketball and appearing to take more of an interest in the boys than the game?\*\*

To me, it would be the exact same as with a 30-year-old straight man “watching” a group of 14-year-old girls playing soccer. (And damn, some of those soccer girls are _fit_!) Being gay and having inappropriate thoughts is no more oogy than being straight and having inappropriate thoughts.

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**Author:** ![Guinastasia](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/guinastasia/32/5751_2.png) [@Guinastasia](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Guinastasia)\
**Post date:** [July 11, 2002, 6:49pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/britney-spears-owes-me-ten-bucks-and-a-blank-morality-check/118366/29 "2002-07-11T18:49:52Z")

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Yeah, but whoever you’re scoping out-  
Please don’t be OBVIOUS about it. YOu know what I mean?

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**Author:** ![Larry\_Mudd](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/l/f14d63/32.png) [@Larry\_Mudd](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Larry_Mudd)\
**Post date:** [July 11, 2002, 7:54pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/britney-spears-owes-me-ten-bucks-and-a-blank-morality-check/118366/30 "2002-07-11T19:54:34Z")

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With regard to the gay/het dichotomy, it’s something I’ve been aware of for a _long_ time:

I’ve been sexually active since I was 13, and with adult women from the get-go. My choice, as I cottoned-on pretty early to the fact that they were more obliging and adept than girls my own age, who were mainly interested in talking about Duran Duran and hanging out at the mall.

If I could do it all over again, (and lord, how I wish I could,) it’d play out about the same.

The most negative thing that ever came up was the occasional jokey (and perhaps envious) remark about “robbing the cradle”, and one snide woman who coyly asked my girlfriend, “Oh, is this your oldest?”

You can bet your ass that if I was either gay or female, (or both,) there would have been a _lot_ more hassle involved. So it seems pretty obvious to me that young g/b’s and females are discriminated against as far as their romantic options are concerned.

Nevertheless, the older I get, the ickier may/december, and especially _april_/december relationships seem to me. Enculturation? Maturation? Who the hell knows?

Compare _Lolita_ and _The Graduate_.

Humbert Humbert and Mrs. Robinson are kindred spirits, but who would you rather have to dinner? (Well, okay, Mrs. Robinson never murdered a sexual rival, so p’haps that’s not the _best_ analogy, but you get the drift…)

Whew, is this thread ever getting dry all-the-sudden. Curse you, **jayjay**!

Let’s see if we can get it back on track:

Bouncy bouncy bouncy! [sub]oh, the shame of it.[/sub]

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**Author:** ![red\_dragon60](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/r/ce73a5/32.png) [@red\_dragon60](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/red_dragon60)\
**Post date:** [July 11, 2002, 8:29pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/britney-spears-owes-me-ten-bucks-and-a-blank-morality-check/118366/31 "2002-07-11T20:29:41Z")

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Mmm, Britney fans. Every year we have a crop of incoming freshmen at high school who think and dress the same way as her. Soo soo tempting. I can’t touch them and I’m just 17!

And I’m all for returning this to it’s original, non-intelligent discussion.

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**Author:** ![parkov](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/p/71e660/32.png) [@parkov](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/parkov)\
**Post date:** [July 11, 2002, 8:59pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/britney-spears-owes-me-ten-bucks-and-a-blank-morality-check/118366/32 "2002-07-11T20:59:13Z")

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Oh, I can definitely relate to this.  
A week ago, in a shopping mall elevator, I got sandwiched between two adorable little girls. They couldn’t have been older than eleven…but had imitated Britney’s dress in every detail. Their make-up was more perfect than some movie stars’!

I have to say I enjoyed THOSE tight quarters. :o

And I was meaning to pick something up at the Disney store too, honest!

Luckily, I exercised some self-control, otherwise I would have taken them on my “special” roller-coaster ride. 😉

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**Author:** ![tiny\_ham](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/t/a183cd/32.png) [@tiny\_ham](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/tiny_ham)\
**Post date:** [July 11, 2002, 9:13pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/britney-spears-owes-me-ten-bucks-and-a-blank-morality-check/118366/33 "2002-07-11T21:13:38Z")

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As a straight, almost thirty year old woman, I must say that I’ve had plenty of lascivious thoughts about boys under eighteen. Highschool baseball players or swimmers or whathaveyou.

my god, a sixteen year old boy tortured me for a week of summer vacation because he knew I had a crush on him.

That tease.

j

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**Author:** ![Larry\_Mudd](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/l/f14d63/32.png) [@Larry\_Mudd](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Larry_Mudd)\
**Post date:** [July 11, 2002, 10:21pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/britney-spears-owes-me-ten-bucks-and-a-blank-morality-check/118366/34 "2002-07-11T22:21:59Z")

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**parkov** , that was _supposed_ to be disturbing as hell and has absolutely _no_ basis in reality, right?

**jbj** – I’m 31, but due to some freakish genetic joke, I can manage to _look_ sixteen, if I dress down. How _you_ doin’? 😉

[sup](Just trying to keep the requisite creep-factor in the thread.)[/sup]

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**Author:** ![Neidhart](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/n/bbe5ce/32.png) [@Neidhart](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Neidhart)\
**Post date:** [July 11, 2002, 10:56pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/britney-spears-owes-me-ten-bucks-and-a-blank-morality-check/118366/35 "2002-07-11T22:56:38Z")

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Dunno if I’m obvious or not, **Guin** – nobody seems to take any notice of me whatever I do 🙂

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**Author:** ![Estilicon](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/e/848f3c/32.png) [@Estilicon](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Estilicon)\
**Post date:** [July 11, 2002, 11:31pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/britney-spears-owes-me-ten-bucks-and-a-blank-morality-check/118366/36 "2002-07-11T23:31:58Z")

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A question is the age of consent in U.S.A 18? What would happen if two 17 years old are caught having sex? An 18 years old with a 17? Thanks

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**Author:** ![sugaree](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/cc9497/32.png) [@sugaree](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/sugaree)\
**Post date:** [July 11, 2002, 11:48pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/britney-spears-owes-me-ten-bucks-and-a-blank-morality-check/118366/37 "2002-07-11T23:48:14Z")

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> \*Originally posted by Larry Mudd \*  
> **parkov** , that was _supposed_ to be disturbing as hell and has absolutely _no_ basis in reality, right?

What’s making me a little queasy here is that I seem to recall that **parkov** really likes Nabokov’s **Lolita**. Not that that means a damn thing in and of itself, but coupled with a …uh…certain _appreciation_ of 11 year olds…I feel a little queasy.

**parkov** , please admit that there is a difference between being attracted to 15 year olds and 11 year olds. Those four years do a lot.

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**Author:** ![Cervaise](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/cervaise/32/16693_2.png) [@Cervaise](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Cervaise)\
**Post date:** [July 11, 2002, 11:48pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/britney-spears-owes-me-ten-bucks-and-a-blank-morality-check/118366/38 "2002-07-11T23:48:20Z")

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> \*Originally posted by Neidhart \*  
> **I refuse to feel guilty about any desire I never act on.**

I’m usually not big on bumper-sticker philosophies, but this is a Britney-licking thing of beauty.

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**Author:** ![parkov](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/p/71e660/32.png) [@parkov](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/parkov)\
**Post date:** [July 12, 2002, 12:06am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/britney-spears-owes-me-ten-bucks-and-a-blank-morality-check/118366/39 "2002-07-12T00:06:32Z")

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I’m making a point that Sofa King’s thoughts and behavior are less than commendable, and the gleeful reaction that some of you have demonstrated to his revolting attitude is just as sickening. You are high-fiving each other, and for what, talk of wanting to “screw” these girls, “defiling” them with your penis, and “bouncing” them in a couple of years?

Britney Spears fans attending a concert with their mothers are not going to be even 18 or 19 years old. Try between 10 and 15.

Considering their age, not only is it wholly reprehensible to talk about them in such a manner or be boastful about the entire thing – let’s face it, there isn’t an ounce of shame in that post – but I find it disrespectful to women of all ages.

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**Author:** ![Neidhart](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/n/bbe5ce/32.png) [@Neidhart](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Neidhart)\
**Post date:** [July 12, 2002, 12:07am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/britney-spears-owes-me-ten-bucks-and-a-blank-morality-check/118366/40 "2002-07-12T00:07:25Z")

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originally posted by **Estilicon**

> [@](#):
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> A question is the age of consent in U.S.A 18? What would happen if two 17 years old are caught having sex? An 18 years old with a 17? Thanks

It varies between states - [www.ageofconsent.com](http://www.ageofconsent.com) will give you the straight dope ™.

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> I’m usually not big on bumper-sticker philosophies, but this is a Britney-licking thing of beauty.

Thanks **Cervaise.**

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