# Brits, comment on Engelbert song for Eurovision 2012. **URL:** \ **Category:** Cafe Society\ **Created:** [April 16, 2012, 9:54am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/brits-comment-on-engelbert-song-for-eurovision-2012/618937 "2012-04-16T09:54:09Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 4\ **Page:** 4
**Author:** ![amanset](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/a/8dc957/32.png) [@amanset](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/amanset)\ **Post date:** [May 28, 2012, 10:33pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/brits-comment-on-engelbert-song-for-eurovision-2012/618937/61 "2012-05-28T22:33:20Z")
> [@notquitekarpov](#): > > And even if Adele did our entry we would still finish 10th tops. > > The voting blocks are static and a UK win is impossible. > > Best moment for me was the crazy accent the Swedish (or was she Danish) girl had who phoned in their scores. Did she learn her English in Dartford or something?! She was just trying to be funny, not unlike when Björn Gustafsson pretended to be drunk a few years ago. Such are the mighty heights of Swedish humour (there’s a reason next to all humour on tv here is imported). My girlfriend was dying of embarrassment. ---
**Author:** ![Polerius](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/p/d78d45/32.png) [@Polerius](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Polerius)\ **Post date:** [May 28, 2012, 10:39pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/brits-comment-on-engelbert-song-for-eurovision-2012/618937/62 "2012-05-28T22:39:03Z")
> [@Novelty\_Bobble](#): > > It is a four-hour comedy show and is probably best summed up by reading through “[The Guardian](http://www.guardian.co.uk/tv-and-radio/tvandradioblog/2012/may/26/eurovision-2012-azerbaijanlive)” live blog. it captures our approach perfectly. _Good God_ is that live blog juvenile! Who did they have typing that in, a bunch of ten-year-olds? Brits have a weird relationship with Eurovision. They seem to be to want to be to Eurovision what the Snarkpit is to the SDMB, but they are failing miserably at it. If you want to do snark properly, send more snarky/ironic songs, not simply boring/miserable ones. Yes, Eurovision is cheesy, and with the influx of the Eastern Bloc countries, things have gotten worse (e.g. block voting, too many entries, etc). One thing I have noticed though is that countries tend to vote for (1) their neighbors and (2) the song they like, so in the end the “best” song wins, and it isn’t always from the same countries. I haven’t seen any stats, but I would bet that the winning entry is somewhat equally distributed among all countries, but positions 2-10 are more static from year-to-year and are dependent on the various voting blocks (Balkans, Scandinavians, former Soviets, etc) ---
**Author:** ![amanset](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/a/8dc957/32.png) [@amanset](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/amanset)\ **Post date:** [May 28, 2012, 10:39pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/brits-comment-on-engelbert-song-for-eurovision-2012/618937/63 "2012-05-28T22:39:06Z")
> **[Sarah Dawn Finer](https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Sarah_Dawn_Finer)** > > Sarah Dawn Finer (born 14 September 1981) is a Swedish singer, songwriter and actress. She is also known for playing Lynda Woodruff, a character created by Edward af Sillén to be a parody spokesperson of the European Broadcasting Union (EBU) in Melodifestivalen and the Eurovision Song Contest. > Finer was born and grew up in Sweden. Her father, David Finer, is English, while her mother, Francine Lee Mirro-Finer is Jewish American. Her sister Zoie and half-brother Rennie Mirro are also singers. H... > [@](#): > > Finer hosted Melodifestivalen 2012 along with Helena Bergström and Gina Dirawi. In a sketch recorded for the finale, Finer played “Lynda Woodruff”, an EBU spokeswoman who speaks with an Estuary-like dialect and can’t pronounce Azerbaijan. She reprised her role for a European audience when delivering Sweden’s vote in the Eurovision Song Contest 2012. ---
**Author:** ![Novelty\_Bobble](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/n/a3d4f5/32.png) [@Novelty\_Bobble](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Novelty_Bobble)\ **Post date:** [May 29, 2012, 7:40pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/brits-comment-on-engelbert-song-for-eurovision-2012/618937/64 "2012-05-29T19:40:00Z")
> [@Polerius](#): > > _Good God_ is that live blog juvenile! Who did they have typing that in, a bunch of ten-year-olds? But do you see? did you read and understand? It is gentle piss-taking borne out of affection with praise for anything that is genuinely good. The weird is applauded, the weird is welcomed, the weird is the whole point of Eurovision to us. The one thing you’ll note throughout is that there are no sour grapes and no expectation that we will win. It is a good humoured joke to us. Look at the points we gave…10 points to Jedward for Christ’s sake, what further proof do you need of our intentions here? > [@](#): > > Brits have a weird relationship with Eurovision. They seem to be to want to be to Eurovision what the Snarkpit is to the SDMB, but they are failing miserably at it. If you want to do snark properly, send more snarky/ironic songs, not simply boring/miserable ones. It isn’t weird, it is perfectly straightforward and has been explained by the UK people on this thread multiple times. We aren’t being snarky. That liveblog can be criticised for being juvenile but definitely not snarky. And we know we are irrelevant to Eurovision so we send irrelevant songs. To try and be snarky and ironic would be trying too hard if you ask me. [Previous page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/brits-comment-on-engelbert-song-for-eurovision-2012/618937.md?page=3)