# Brits/Europeans: Why so anal about liquid measure? (beer) **URL:** \ **Category:** Cafe Society\ **Tags:** beer\ **Created:** [January 4, 2012, 3:57pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/brits-europeans-why-so-anal-about-liquid-measure-beer/608385 "2012-01-04T15:57:35Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 15\ **Page:** 4
**Author:** ![Great\_Antibob](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/g/e47c2d/32.png) [@Great\_Antibob](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Great_Antibob)\ **Post date:** [January 6, 2012, 9:46pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/brits-europeans-why-so-anal-about-liquid-measure-beer/608385/61 "2012-01-06T21:46:19Z")
> [@amanset](#): > > Especially Colorado. An insane amount of good beer seems to come from there. Portland, Oregon, my friend. Portland, Oregon. Also, Austin, TX, though I’m not sure if you can get any Live Oak shipped internationally. ---
**Author:** ![NiceGuyJack](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/niceguyjack/32/3069_2.png) [@NiceGuyJack](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/NiceGuyJack)\ **Post date:** [January 7, 2012, 1:26am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/brits-europeans-why-so-anal-about-liquid-measure-beer/608385/62 "2012-01-07T01:26:46Z")
> [@Teacake](#): > > Most English wine is consumed in England. You’ll be lucky to get any, and I mean that in every sense. I love wine, and there are some very good ones from places like Cornwall, Suffolk and Surrey. I have also in my possession as we speak two bottles of very nice Dutch wine, which I bought in Maastricht. It’s not a huge or (geographically) widespread industry in either country the way it is in France or Italy, but it’s a shame not to acknowledge that both the Netherlands and England produce a fair amount of very nice wine. I remember trying some English wine and I must say it wasn’t that great. Never tried Dutch wine so no comment there. Have tried Chinese wine and I can say the English wine is better. But I don’t know if that means a lot. I have also tried Indian wine and all I can say is avoid it as best you can. ---
**Author:** ![Lust4Life](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/l/ecc23a/32.png) [@Lust4Life](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Lust4Life)\ **Post date:** [January 9, 2012, 6:00pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/brits-europeans-why-so-anal-about-liquid-measure-beer/608385/63 "2012-01-09T18:00:29Z")
> [@amanset](#): > > Oh yes - and I say that as a European. I’m happy to say that one of my best friends here in Sweden is the twin of the guy behind [craftcans.com](http://craftcans.com) and the amount of high quality imported American beer I have been introduced to via him is insane. Between Guinnesses this evening I had a couple of Anchor Steams (Southside apparently got it on tap 3 weeks ago) and that felt like slumming it compared to the stuff he has introduced me to over the past couple of years or so. > > Especially Colorado. An insane amount of good beer seems to come from there. I was in Walsenburg, amongst other places a little while ago and all that was available was Gnats pee. But to answer the o.p. are you usually happy for business’s to give you short measures ? As in I’ve only half a bun with my burger. Yeah So ? Whats the problem ? ER I wanted a cup of coffee, but its only half full. Oh for GODS SAKE ! Why are people so bloody FUSSY ! ---
**Author:** ![Acsenray](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/acsenray/32/4519_2.png) [@Acsenray](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Acsenray)\ **Post date:** [January 9, 2012, 6:15pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/brits-europeans-why-so-anal-about-liquid-measure-beer/608385/64 "2012-01-09T18:15:18Z")
Strangely, we don’t seem to need government-calibrated measuring vessels to prevent McDonald’s from serving half a hamburger. ---
**Author:** ![Lust4Life](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/l/ecc23a/32.png) [@Lust4Life](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Lust4Life)\ **Post date:** [January 9, 2012, 6:53pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/brits-europeans-why-so-anal-about-liquid-measure-beer/608385/65 "2012-01-09T18:53:45Z")
Yeah well thats easy for you to say cos you’ve got the trained eye haven’t you. Personally I find that if I count the bun pieces; then I know if they’ve short bunned me. Otherwise, well, sometimes I notice, sometimes I don’t. ---
**Author:** ![Smid](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/838e76/32.png) [@Smid](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Smid)\ **Post date:** [January 10, 2012, 7:16am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/brits-europeans-why-so-anal-about-liquid-measure-beer/608385/66 "2012-01-10T07:16:24Z")
> [@Oakminster](#): > > Sure you haven’t switched the Irishman and the Scot? Scots have a reputation for being…thrifty…that seems more in tune with the joke. You may be of Scottish descent, but you are clearly not Scottish. The Scots have a real reputation of generosity. Usually, its the English who are mean, but there are more of them and they’re louder… Some would say Yorkshire in particular, and Londoners, if there is such a thing… I just know that living in England, some of them hold the door open to the pub, just so they can be last in the bar and last one to buy a drink in a round (in turn). ---
**Author:** ![Lust4Life](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/l/ecc23a/32.png) [@Lust4Life](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Lust4Life)\ **Post date:** [January 10, 2012, 12:42pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/brits-europeans-why-so-anal-about-liquid-measure-beer/608385/67 "2012-01-10T12:42:33Z")
I’ve got to admit \*\*Smid \*\* can be right, I remember very well a Scotsman buying me a pint. It was a sunny day, back in 72 or 73 I think. The other people in the pub thought that it was a publicity stunt of some sort. ---
**Author:** ![Smid](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/838e76/32.png) [@Smid](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Smid)\ **Post date:** [January 10, 2012, 3:27pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/brits-europeans-why-so-anal-about-liquid-measure-beer/608385/68 "2012-01-10T15:27:10Z")
> [@Lust4Life](#): > > I’ve got to admit \*\*Smid \*\* can be right, I remember very well a Scotsman buying me a pint. > > It was a sunny day, back in 72 or 73 I think. > > The other people in the pub thought that it was a publicity stunt of some sort. The difference mate, is that you probably didn’t buy him one back 🙂 ---
**Author:** ![Lust4Life](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/l/ecc23a/32.png) [@Lust4Life](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Lust4Life)\ **Post date:** [January 12, 2012, 10:56am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/brits-europeans-why-so-anal-about-liquid-measure-beer/608385/69 "2012-01-12T10:56:34Z")
> [@Smid](#): > > The difference mate, is that you probably didn’t buy him one back 🙂 Ah that would be my Scots half in action. (Glasweigan dad) ---
**Author:** ![Floater](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/f/dc4da7/32.png) [@Floater](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Floater)\ **Post date:** [January 12, 2012, 12:17pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/brits-europeans-why-so-anal-about-liquid-measure-beer/608385/70 "2012-01-12T12:17:28Z")
> [@amanset](#): > > … a normal pub in Stockholm (Southside by Zinkensdam station for those that care) 64 SEK per pint. Thanks for the warning. I won’t go there. > [@Smid](#): > > You may be of Scottish descent, but you are clearly not Scottish. The Scots have a real reputation of generosity. My impression of Scotsmen is that they are generally far too generous for their own good. The thing about them being thrifty is, I’ve been told, originally an internal Scottish joke about Aberdonians. ---
**Author:** ![amanset](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/a/8dc957/32.png) [@amanset](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/amanset)\ **Post date:** [January 12, 2012, 12:18pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/brits-europeans-why-so-anal-about-liquid-measure-beer/608385/71 "2012-01-12T12:18:37Z")
> [@Floater](#): > > Thanks for the warning. I won’t go there. If you know of a cheaper Guinness in Stockholm, I’m all ears. ---
**Author:** ![Floater](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/f/dc4da7/32.png) [@Floater](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Floater)\ **Post date:** [January 12, 2012, 4:54pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/brits-europeans-why-so-anal-about-liquid-measure-beer/608385/72 "2012-01-12T16:54:37Z")
I used to drink lots of Guinness at BG:s further up the street towards Hornstull, but I haven’t been there since it changed owner a number of years ago (a blatant lie, I had a quick lager there on New Year’s eve. Unfortunately I don’t remember if they still have it). ---
**Author:** ![Lust4Life](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/l/ecc23a/32.png) [@Lust4Life](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Lust4Life)\ **Post date:** [January 12, 2012, 7:22pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/brits-europeans-why-so-anal-about-liquid-measure-beer/608385/73 "2012-01-12T19:22:05Z")
Some years ago went drinking in Stockholm, and the prices even then made our eyes water ! We were at one time in a Jazz pub but can’t remember its name. Incrediblt beautyful women. ---
**Author:** ![Floater](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/f/dc4da7/32.png) [@Floater](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Floater)\ **Post date:** [January 13, 2012, 12:04pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/brits-europeans-why-so-anal-about-liquid-measure-beer/608385/74 "2012-01-13T12:04:49Z")
When drinking in Stockholm you have to know which places to go to as the prices vary from place to place. I, myself, find Gothenburg very expensive. ---
**Author:** ![Bilbo1967](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/b/7bcc69/32.png) [@Bilbo1967](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Bilbo1967)\ **Post date:** [January 15, 2012, 7:27pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/brits-europeans-why-so-anal-about-liquid-measure-beer/608385/75 "2012-01-15T19:27:52Z")
> [@Smid](#): > > Usually, its the English who are mean, but there are more of them and they’re louder… Some would say Yorkshire in particular, and Londoners, if there is such a thing… Yes, Londoners exist. I’ve visited there and can confirm people live there. > [@Smid](#): > > I just know that living in England, some of them hold the door open to the pub, just so they can be last in the bar and last one to buy a drink in a round (in turn). Met that kind of person. First out of the taxi, last to the bar :rolleyes: [Previous page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/brits-europeans-why-so-anal-about-liquid-measure-beer/608385.md?page=3)