# Brits:  getting "gazumped"?

**URL:** <https://boards.straightdope.com/t/brits-getting-gazumped/364965>\
**Category:** Factual Questions\
**Created:** [July 18, 2006, 3:09am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/brits-getting-gazumped/364965 "2006-07-18T03:09:35Z")\
**Posts on this page:** 7\
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**Author:** ![Acsenray](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/acsenray/32/4519_2.png) [@Acsenray](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Acsenray)\
**Post date:** [July 18, 2006, 1:41pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/brits-getting-gazumped/364965/21 "2006-07-18T13:41:01Z")

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Why don’t British buyers start demanding contingency or option-type contracts once the sales price is agreed? Is there any barrier to entering into a contract that gives the buyer the sole right to purchase for X number of weeks?

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**Author:** ![Princhester](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/p/3e96dc/32.png) [@Princhester](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Princhester)\
**Post date:** [July 19, 2006, 1:34am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/brits-getting-gazumped/364965/22 "2006-07-19T01:34:37Z")

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No, according to my UK lawyer friends, **acsenray** , there isn’t. It just Is Not How It Is Done.

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**Author:** ![Campion](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/c/4491bb/32.png) [@Campion](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Campion)\
**Post date:** [July 19, 2006, 2:26am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/brits-getting-gazumped/364965/23 "2006-07-19T02:26:22Z")

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[QUOTE=Princhester]  
There are a number of wacky aspects to the UK system but at the heart of it is this: in the dim and distant past there was a problem with the landed gentry being deprived of their land in (allegedly) fraudulent oral deals. As a consequnce, the _Statute of Frauds_ was passed, by which dealings in land were null and void unless in writing under hand. We inherited the same statute here in Australia.  
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This is interesting; we also have the statute of frauds in the US. See, for example, California Civil Code section [1624](http://www.lectlaw.com/files/bul15.htm), which states among other things that a contract for the sale of real property is invalid unless it is in writing.

As **acsenray** and **Billdo** noted, in the states we deal with the difficulties inherent in a real property transaction by having written offers with contingencies: the Loan Contingency, the Appraisal Contingency, the Physical Inspection Contingency. And the title search is part of the whole shebang, too.

Interesting. Thanks for explaining all that, you guys. I truly thought my friend was having me on. I guess I owe her an apology. 😉

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**Author:** ![Acsenray](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/acsenray/32/4519_2.png) [@Acsenray](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Acsenray)\
**Post date:** [July 19, 2006, 1:57pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/brits-getting-gazumped/364965/24 "2006-07-19T13:57:57Z")

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> It just Is Not How It Is Done.

That I understand from the discussion. However, the job of a lawyer is to give their clients legal options and to craft arguments that fit the circumstances.

[QUOTE=Princhester]  
No, according to my UK lawyer friends, **acsenray** , there isn’t.  
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There isn’t what? Are you saying that such contingency or option contracts are illegal? Provided that they aren’t actually illegal under English law, if enough buyers start demanding them, then sellers will eventually start having to concede.

The key here, really, might be what **Mangetout** said. An individual buyer doesn’t have enough stake in changing the system to start insisting on contingency contracts.

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**Author:** ![Princhester](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/p/3e96dc/32.png) [@Princhester](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Princhester)\
**Post date:** [July 20, 2006, 11:04pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/brits-getting-gazumped/364965/25 "2006-07-20T23:04:25Z")

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> [@ascenray](#):
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> Is there any barrier to entering into a contract that gives the buyer the sole right to purchase for X number of weeks?

> [@Princhester](#):
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> No, according to my UK lawyer friends, acsenray, there isn’t.

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**Author:** ![GorillaMan](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/g/50afbb/32.png) [@GorillaMan](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/GorillaMan)\
**Post date:** [July 20, 2006, 11:09pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/brits-getting-gazumped/364965/26 "2006-07-20T23:09:54Z")

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[QUOTE=FRDE]  
We are governed by morons

- do they send the dregs of Scotland to England ?  
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Inept inexperience lawyers, you mean? Perhaps named ‘Blair’?

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**Author:** ![rocksolid](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/r/8797f3/32.png) [@rocksolid](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/rocksolid)\
**Post date:** [July 20, 2006, 11:16pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/brits-getting-gazumped/364965/27 "2006-07-20T23:16:31Z")

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[QUOTE=Rayne Man]  
I thought this only applied to England and Wales (and possibly Northern Ireland). The property laws in Scotland are different there. Once you make an offer it’s a binding contract.

As this [explains](http://www.hastingslegal.co.uk/Legal%20Services/buying.html)  
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Yes, thats true, but we make up for it by having the crappy ‘offers over’ system. House advertised for sale at ‘Offers over £120k’, Offer £140k and you don’t get the house cause someone has bid £141. It sucks, never know whether you’ll get the place you want, never know how much to offer, no chance for a simple negotiation or open auction.

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