# Brits:  If them yanks can play chess on here, then we can play Mornington Crescent!

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**Created:** [March 7, 2005, 12:58pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/brits-if-them-yanks-can-play-chess-on-here-then-we-can-play-mornington-crescent/293344 "2005-03-07T12:58:30Z")\
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**Author:** ![GorillaMan](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/g/50afbb/32.png) [@GorillaMan](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/GorillaMan)\
**Post date:** [March 9, 2005, 2:18pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/brits-if-them-yanks-can-play-chess-on-here-then-we-can-play-mornington-crescent/293344/81 "2005-03-09T14:18:11Z")

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> [@owlstretchingtime](#):
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> Gentlemen: Please try to remember that Morington is a game for gentlemen played by gentlemen to gentlemen’s rules. At least it is in England - Aussie Rules MC is obviously for herberts.

I once saw a Mornington League match in Wigan. Not for the faint-hearted.  
However, I’m afraid **Mansion House** doesn’t create the Nid - abscence of the deep-level line precludes association through the lateral interflex. It leaves me with few choices, however, but perhaps the most astringent one would be **Oval**.

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**Post date:** [March 9, 2005, 3:00pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/brits-if-them-yanks-can-play-chess-on-here-then-we-can-play-mornington-crescent/293344/82 "2005-03-09T15:00:10Z")

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Let’s see…page 43…astringent moves…ah!

**Barking**

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**Author:** ![GorillaMan](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/g/50afbb/32.png) [@GorillaMan](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/GorillaMan)\
**Post date:** [March 9, 2005, 3:09pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/brits-if-them-yanks-can-play-chess-on-here-then-we-can-play-mornington-crescent/293344/83 "2005-03-09T15:09:58Z")

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Dashed cunning of you!

**Morden** is about the best I can do from that nasty frame-stake trick.

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**Author:** ![Iceland\_Blue](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/i/4bbf92/32.png) [@Iceland\_Blue](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Iceland_Blue)\
**Post date:** [March 9, 2005, 4:58pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/brits-if-them-yanks-can-play-chess-on-here-then-we-can-play-mornington-crescent/293344/84 "2005-03-09T16:58:19Z")

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**Carnaby Street**

Yeah groovy baby!

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**Author:** ![ianzin](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/i/ed655f/32.png) [@ianzin](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/ianzin)\
**Post date:** [March 9, 2005, 6:26pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/brits-if-them-yanks-can-play-chess-on-here-then-we-can-play-mornington-crescent/293344/85 "2005-03-09T18:26:51Z")

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**Paperback writer’s** deployment of **Roding Valley** is excellent, and obviously derails my promised win/draw in 4. I’m not complaining (those who know me know that I love the long game), but _just for the record_, the Ki-Zerbo move was played under Biennial International Tournament Rules, as adopted at Berne III, and not MA rules as is the case with the present game.

I accept that **Carnaby Street** isn’t technically illegal, but may I just gently point out that it does contradict the normal etiquette as regards bilaterals involving Zone 1, Parks exempted. No matter.

**South Kenton**.

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**Post date:** [March 9, 2005, 6:33pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/brits-if-them-yanks-can-play-chess-on-here-then-we-can-play-mornington-crescent/293344/86 "2005-03-09T18:33:21Z")

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Drat…Appendix III…MA Rules…Directional cadence variations…

**Tottenham Hale**

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**Post date:** [March 9, 2005, 7:35pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/brits-if-them-yanks-can-play-chess-on-here-then-we-can-play-mornington-crescent/293344/87 "2005-03-09T19:35:22Z")

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Damn. My first move in the game and it’s all but forced. ( **Knightsbridge** is obviously suicidal, since it forces **Moorgate** followed by **Blackfriars** and **Mornington Crescent** , and **Mansion House** puts me in perpetual nib.)

Therefore, the only reasonable choice:

**Sloane Square**

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**Author:** ![eleanorigby](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/e/ee7513/32.png) [@eleanorigby](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/eleanorigby)\
**Post date:** [March 9, 2005, 7:38pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/brits-if-them-yanks-can-play-chess-on-here-then-we-can-play-mornington-crescent/293344/88 "2005-03-09T19:38:01Z")

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\<shyly, knees quaking\>…“please sir, Finsbury Park?”

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**Post date:** [March 9, 2005, 7:39pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/brits-if-them-yanks-can-play-chess-on-here-then-we-can-play-mornington-crescent/293344/89 "2005-03-09T19:39:24Z")

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Egads! you are too quick for me! :eek:

\<retires to admire from sidelines\>

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**Post date:** [March 9, 2005, 7:53pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/brits-if-them-yanks-can-play-chess-on-here-then-we-can-play-mornington-crescent/293344/90 "2005-03-09T19:53:07Z")

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I call Early Retirement Instigation Repertoire (version 4.53c)

**St Pauls**

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**Post date:** [March 9, 2005, 8:34pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/brits-if-them-yanks-can-play-chess-on-here-then-we-can-play-mornington-crescent/293344/91 "2005-03-09T20:34:30Z")

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> [@eleanorigby](#):
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> Egads! you are too quick for me! :eek:
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> \<retires to admire from sidelines\>

Yay!Our first Mornington Crescent groupie. The SDMB team needs some cheerleaders…we can provide uniforms and pompoms for you girls…  
oh yeah the game…er…i dunno… **Hounslow**

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**Post date:** [March 9, 2005, 8:40pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/brits-if-them-yanks-can-play-chess-on-here-then-we-can-play-mornington-crescent/293344/92 "2005-03-09T20:40:05Z")

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> [@Iceland\_Blue](#):
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> Yay!Our first Mornington Crescent groupie. The SDMB team needs some cheerleaders…we can provide uniforms and pompoms for you girls…  
> oh yeah the game…er…i dunno… **Hounslow**

😕 **Hounslow**?.._ **Hounslow** _…Are you just trying to give the game away?

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**Maida Vale!!**

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**Post date:** [March 9, 2005, 8:46pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/brits-if-them-yanks-can-play-chess-on-here-then-we-can-play-mornington-crescent/293344/94 "2005-03-09T20:46:35Z")

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**Mill Hill East!!!**

I can smell it coming…

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**Author:** ![paperbackwriter](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/p/53a042/32.png) [@paperbackwriter](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/paperbackwriter)\
**Post date:** [March 9, 2005, 8:56pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/brits-if-them-yanks-can-play-chess-on-here-then-we-can-play-mornington-crescent/293344/95 "2005-03-09T20:56:15Z")

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> [@ianzin](#):
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> **Paperback writer’s** deployment of **Roding Valley** is excellent, and obviously derails my promised win/draw in 4. I’m not complaining (those who know me know that I love the long game), but _just for the record_, the Ki-Zerbo move was played under Biennial International Tournament Rules, as adopted at Berne III, and not MA rules as is the case with the present game.

I fully accept that proviso, but I also note the move is legal under either set of rules. L’Confus’s in ruling against Mr. Clarence Namentenga’s protest was that phrase which was to later become so famous in a similar context: “On permettrait ce mouvement sous presque n’importe quel ensemble de règles acceptable.”

However useful that particular move was for Mr. Ki-Zerbo, it eventually came for naught, as he soon afterwards committed one ofthe classic blunders and placed _himself_ in knib. Namentenga declared Mornington Crescent 1 move later. It is one of those desparation moves that a top player would not make because they “know” it wouldn’t work, but which an amateur sometimes stumbles upon. Part of what makes the game such a vital and living sport.

I recognize that these historical diversions, while interesting in their own right, do little to move the game forward, and I beg forgiveness for being long-winded.

The deployment of Mill Hill East is indeed difficult. Nearly any move I make would again create an immediate MC. Seems to be my lot in this game, doesn’t it?

Unless, yes, the tri-lateral deep possibilities through the GWR give me: **Embankment**.

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**Post date:** [March 9, 2005, 9:26pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/brits-if-them-yanks-can-play-chess-on-here-then-we-can-play-mornington-crescent/293344/96 "2005-03-09T21:26:36Z")

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Yes…so can I…someone switch on the air conditioning!

**Willesden**

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**Swiss Cottage**

That should prevent us from heading into the Thameslink Stalemate

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**Post date:** [March 9, 2005, 10:14pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/brits-if-them-yanks-can-play-chess-on-here-then-we-can-play-mornington-crescent/293344/98 "2005-03-09T22:14:49Z")

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Right…after conferring with some of my UK-bred officemates (my company is a partial offshoot of Reuters), I think I’m getting the hang of this.

I’ve seen no mention that we’re using the _VanDerbrook Variations_, so I believe this should be a legal move…I’ll go:

**Seven Sisters**

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**Post date:** [March 9, 2005, 10:36pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/brits-if-them-yanks-can-play-chess-on-here-then-we-can-play-mornington-crescent/293344/99 "2005-03-09T22:36:15Z")

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- sigh \* The suggested ‘Seven Sisters’ play would, in this context, obviously constitute a Deferred Fairlop with consecutive consonants. Since no-one has yet declared Points after motion clockwise, and since cross-water non-parallel Parks are legal under MA rules (though I’m not the only one who thinks this makes a mockery of the end game), the SS play is self-evidently illegal unless it follows motion West from a non-contiguous Zone. Try again by all means, but do please try and respect the elementary rules of the game. (Hint: the Central Line offers much promise… )

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**Post date:** [March 9, 2005, 10:50pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/brits-if-them-yanks-can-play-chess-on-here-then-we-can-play-mornington-crescent/293344/100 "2005-03-09T22:50:02Z")

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I believe I know what you are hinting at, but there is another possibility. No-one has yet indicated if the Lord Burley convention is in force, and therefore _unopened_ stations have not yet been disallowed. It is a sneaky move, yes, but **Harefield Road and Denham** will instate a Ruislip Rotation.

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