# Brits:  If them yanks can play chess on here, then we can play Mornington Crescent!

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**Created:** [March 7, 2005, 12:58pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/brits-if-them-yanks-can-play-chess-on-here-then-we-can-play-mornington-crescent/293344 "2005-03-07T12:58:30Z")\
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**Author:** ![GorillaMan](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/g/50afbb/32.png) [@GorillaMan](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/GorillaMan)\
**Post date:** [March 9, 2005, 10:59pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/brits-if-them-yanks-can-play-chess-on-here-then-we-can-play-mornington-crescent/293344/101 "2005-03-09T22:59:51Z")

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Quite right. **Snaresbrook** is an oft-overlooked option when given this particular loop-coupling challenge.

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**Author:** ![paperbackwriter](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/p/53a042/32.png) [@paperbackwriter](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/paperbackwriter)\
**Post date:** [March 10, 2005, 12:00am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/brits-if-them-yanks-can-play-chess-on-here-then-we-can-play-mornington-crescent/293344/102 "2005-03-10T00:00:19Z")

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Impressive, and a move I’ve never seen before; using the Ongar Loop maneuver to break the Ruislip Rotation. You style reminds me of Gonzalez-Galdeano in the 1972 East-West Challenge Cup.

Whch suggests an obvious rejoinder, using the Royal Wedding Rules mentioned in the OP to declare Flexitime and pick up double points with **King’s Cross St. Pancras**

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**Author:** ![Iceland\_Blue](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/i/4bbf92/32.png) [@Iceland\_Blue](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Iceland_Blue)\
**Post date:** [March 10, 2005, 12:24am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/brits-if-them-yanks-can-play-chess-on-here-then-we-can-play-mornington-crescent/293344/103 "2005-03-10T00:24:34Z")

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It’s halftime…Bring on the cheerleaders 🙂 Yay!  
**Surrey Quays**

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**Author:** ![eleanorigby](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/e/ee7513/32.png) [@eleanorigby](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/eleanorigby)\
**Post date:** [March 10, 2005, 12:56am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/brits-if-them-yanks-can-play-chess-on-here-then-we-can-play-mornington-crescent/293344/104 "2005-03-10T00:56:09Z")

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\<grabs pom-pms, shouts whilst leaping\>

Are-You-Quiescent?

Get-To-Mornington Crescent!

\<splits and other painful appearing gyrations occur here\>

**MIND THE GAP!!!**

😃

\<sashays off field\>

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**Author:** ![glee](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/g/b5a626/32.png) [@glee](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/glee)\
**Post date:** [March 10, 2005, 1:29am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/brits-if-them-yanks-can-play-chess-on-here-then-we-can-play-mornington-crescent/293344/105 "2005-03-10T01:29:31Z")

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> [@ianzin](#):
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> … I can’t take credit for this beauty: it’s an old twist from that wily old master, Achenin, who used it to carry off the 73 European Qualifier against Peddlewick.

I was \*\*actually there \*\* and remember to this day the look on Peddlewick’s face. 😕

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**Author:** ![ianzin](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/i/ed655f/32.png) [@ianzin](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/ianzin)\
**Post date:** [March 10, 2005, 1:48am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/brits-if-them-yanks-can-play-chess-on-here-then-we-can-play-mornington-crescent/293344/106 "2005-03-10T01:48:22Z")

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> [@paperbackwriter](#):
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> using the Royal Wedding Rules

I fear we may have a new technicality to deal with. According to the usual authorities (Berne, Llanghorn, Exeter & Wallis etc.) the exceptional rules which invoke a Royal Wedding are all predicated on said wedding taking place _within Westminster Abbey_. We are therefore faced with the thorny question of whether or not RW rules may be said to be currently applicable.

I can find no commonly accepted authority supporting the contention that a wedding counts as ‘Royal’, for MC purposes, if it is to take place in a location other than the Abbey. The only cite I could come up with is from \*The New MC Exegesis \* by Halby & Gruner, 1973 revised ed., where the authors argue that reference to the Abbey is part of the _spirit_ of the RW rules, but not part of the _letter_. However, nobody pays much attention to H&G any more, and I think it is generally agreed that their interpretations were often rather awry, and prone to cause more problems than they solved (_pace_ their inane support for Montfort’s Strategem being allowed under Bassingtons, when even Montfort himself had never claimed this was practical, useful or desirable).

Sorry to get a little bogged down in technicalities but… well, you know, these things are important. I mean, if the rules don’t matter, then we may just as well make it up as we go along.

Any views?

By the way **GorillaMan** , excellent move there with Snaresbrook. Often overlooked, but darned effective if you ask me. Do you remember Wesker playing this against de Huis in the '90 Euro team semis, with time running out and the Dutch 4-3 down? Pure brilliance!

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**Author:** ![paperbackwriter](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/p/53a042/32.png) [@paperbackwriter](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/paperbackwriter)\
**Post date:** [March 10, 2005, 4:20am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/brits-if-them-yanks-can-play-chess-on-here-then-we-can-play-mornington-crescent/293344/107 "2005-03-10T04:20:00Z")

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You raise interesting point, but one which I feel is moot for both technical and substantive reasons. Whereas RW rules were declared at the opening move, and no objection has been offered until now, I feel it is a case where the Laches Doctrine would foreclose a protest at this late stage.

Furthermore, on a more substantive objection, I understand the position of the authorities, but against that, there has to be weighed the general acceptance of Charles and Camilla’s upcoming nuptuals are being widely treated as a Royal Wedding. The alternate location is not far removed from Westminster, but more to the point, the Barksdale Protocol creates wide latitude for moving traditions forward in generally uncontroversial matters.

Of course, as an American, my view on what is uncontroversial in this matter may be widely different from yours.

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**Author:** ![owlstretchingtime](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/o/958977/32.png) [@owlstretchingtime](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/owlstretchingtime)\
**Post date:** [March 10, 2005, 11:27am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/brits-if-them-yanks-can-play-chess-on-here-then-we-can-play-mornington-crescent/293344/108 "2005-03-10T11:27:36Z")

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The Royal Wedding rules actually have defined precedent here. Charles married that slapper with the big hooter in St Pauls (itself a possible move), and if the older ones of us here cast our minds back to that day (I realise that as we had the day off most of us were plastered), you may well remember in the Royal Tribute game between Bunty and Gascoigne, that it was specifically stated that just so long as the marriage took place in a church - the RW rules applied.

This is where it gets complicated. They are getting married in a Town Hall then getting blessed in a church. I have looked through my copy of _Mornington Crescent for Dummies_ and it’s not really any clearer.

Any suggestions as to where we go from here?

I’m going to **Turnham Green**

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**Author:** ![silenus](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/silenus/32/166_2.png) [@silenus](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/silenus)\
**Post date:** [March 10, 2005, 2:48pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/brits-if-them-yanks-can-play-chess-on-here-then-we-can-play-mornington-crescent/293344/109 "2005-03-10T14:48:35Z")

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Well, until the rules committee gives us a definitive answer regarding RW, I’ve going to play a conservative game.

**Holland Park** , for a double green, I believe.

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**Author:** ![Giles](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/giles/32/60_2.png) [@Giles](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Giles)\
**Post date:** [March 10, 2005, 3:50pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/brits-if-them-yanks-can-play-chess-on-here-then-we-can-play-mornington-crescent/293344/110 "2005-03-10T15:50:35Z")

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> [@silenus](#):
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> **Holland Park** , for a double green, I believe.

Isn’t Holland Park on the Central Line, making it a red?

**Turnham Green** would be double green (on the District Line, and with a “Green” in its name).

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**Author:** ![Iceland\_Blue](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/i/4bbf92/32.png) [@Iceland\_Blue](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Iceland_Blue)\
**Post date:** [March 10, 2005, 4:41pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/brits-if-them-yanks-can-play-chess-on-here-then-we-can-play-mornington-crescent/293344/111 "2005-03-10T16:41:04Z")

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**Aldwych**

Is it treasonable to refer to the deceased wife of the heir of the throne as ‘that slapper with the big hooters’?In that case,owl will be proceeding directly to **Tower Hill**.He will forfeit his go-under the 1987 Non-Competitors Ruling,death of a player annuls their right to continue.  
Especially death by beheading 😃

And speaking of hooters,I’m off to get a glimpse of eleanorigby’s.Save my seat

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**Author:** ![paperbackwriter](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/p/53a042/32.png) [@paperbackwriter](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/paperbackwriter)\
**Post date:** [March 10, 2005, 6:13pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/brits-if-them-yanks-can-play-chess-on-here-then-we-can-play-mornington-crescent/293344/112 "2005-03-10T18:13:52Z")

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What an odd, almost random move. Your strategy seems to revolve around merely picking names from a hat, and I can’t understand it at all. Still, I must play what has been dealt, though for the life of me I can’t think why you’d put us on a deliberate move to MC in 5 moves or less. But seeing as how I earlier used an unopened station, who am I to complain about deploying a closed one?

Given that, I think a 3-zone shunt to **Chiswick Park** should put us back on track.

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**Author:** ![eleanorigby](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/e/ee7513/32.png) [@eleanorigby](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/eleanorigby)\
**Post date:** [March 10, 2005, 6:24pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/brits-if-them-yanks-can-play-chess-on-here-then-we-can-play-mornington-crescent/293344/113 "2005-03-10T18:24:18Z")

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> [@Iceland\_Blue](#):
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> .  
> Especially death by beheading 😃
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> And speaking of hooters,I’m off to get a glimpse of eleanorigby’s.Save my seat

2 things:

1. Please don’t mention me or my body parts in the same post as a beheading. It’s very disconcerting, to say the least. :eek:

2. \<sigh\> guess hooters are all I’ve got, since I suck at thinking up cheers for such a dramatic and fast moving game as this…d’ya know how hard it was to rhyme Mornington Crescent? Couldn’t be something easy like Barbican or Russell Street or St. Pancras–nooooo–it has to be MC. :rolleyes: 🙂  
Game query:

What happens when you get off at MC? Is there anything there worthy of notice?

Carry on…

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**Author:** ![GorillaMan](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/g/50afbb/32.png) [@GorillaMan](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/GorillaMan)\
**Post date:** [March 10, 2005, 6:48pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/brits-if-them-yanks-can-play-chess-on-here-then-we-can-play-mornington-crescent/293344/114 "2005-03-10T18:48:38Z")

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With the Victoria Line as trumps, am I right in thinking I’m restricted by the 1880 Railways Act (Vermin Control)? If so, I’ll take **Embankment**

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**Author:** ![Iceland\_Blue](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/i/4bbf92/32.png) [@Iceland\_Blue](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Iceland_Blue)\
**Post date:** [March 10, 2005, 11:06pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/brits-if-them-yanks-can-play-chess-on-here-then-we-can-play-mornington-crescent/293344/115 "2005-03-10T23:06:32Z")

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Which leads via the Depressed Shifney Opening to  
**Bank**

Please don’t try to come up with cheers that rhyme it… 😃

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**Author:** ![ianzin](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/i/ed655f/32.png) [@ianzin](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/ianzin)\
**Post date:** [March 11, 2005, 12:50am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/brits-if-them-yanks-can-play-chess-on-here-then-we-can-play-mornington-crescent/293344/116 "2005-03-11T00:50:45Z")

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> [@Iceland\_Blue](#):
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> Which leads via the Depressed Shifney Opening to  
> **Bank**

Er… sorry, but the previous play was Em **bank** ment, so ‘Bank’ contravenes the four letter repetition rule. Marble Arch rules are very clear on this. Not an issue under Exeter rules, obviously, or WMCF Consolidated Tournament Classic Rules, but we’re playing MA.

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**Author:** ![GorillaMan](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/g/50afbb/32.png) [@GorillaMan](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/GorillaMan)\
**Post date:** [March 11, 2005, 12:53am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/brits-if-them-yanks-can-play-chess-on-here-then-we-can-play-mornington-crescent/293344/117 "2005-03-11T00:53:09Z")

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Don’t MA rules exempt titular escolophasical relationships?

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**Author:** ![paperbackwriter](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/p/53a042/32.png) [@paperbackwriter](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/paperbackwriter)\
**Post date:** [March 11, 2005, 1:11am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/brits-if-them-yanks-can-play-chess-on-here-then-we-can-play-mornington-crescent/293344/118 "2005-03-11T01:11:25Z")

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Not after the 2001 Governor’s Meeting. The Governors voted 21-14 to remove the exemption, with teh majority fearing it led too easily to such fiascoes as the 2000 Devon semifinals. Which does, indeed, invalidate Bank.

A similar play to **Oval** , however, would be allowed, as a geometric variation.

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**Author:** ![owlstretchingtime](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/o/958977/32.png) [@owlstretchingtime](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/owlstretchingtime)\
**Post date:** [March 11, 2005, 11:03am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/brits-if-them-yanks-can-play-chess-on-here-then-we-can-play-mornington-crescent/293344/119 "2005-03-11T11:03:53Z")

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Two things: Firstly I referred to the ditzy sloane as a “slapper with a big hooter” not hooters. She didn’t have big bristols but she did have a whopping conk. **Iceland blue** methinks you needa cold shower!

And following on geometrically:

**Leicester Square**

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**Author:** ![Giles](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/giles/32/60_2.png) [@Giles](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Giles)\
**Post date:** [March 11, 2005, 2:37pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/brits-if-them-yanks-can-play-chess-on-here-then-we-can-play-mornington-crescent/293344/120 "2005-03-11T14:37:59Z")

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> [@owlstretchingtime](#):
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> **Leicester Square**

Continuing with the Midlands theme: **Warwick Avenue**

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