# Brits: Tell me about Lemonade

**URL:** <https://boards.straightdope.com/t/brits-tell-me-about-lemonade/328956>\
**Category:** Factual Questions\
**Created:** [November 1, 2005, 8:02pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/brits-tell-me-about-lemonade/328956 "2005-11-01T20:02:39Z")\
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**Author:** ![Excalibre](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/e/898d66/32.png) [@Excalibre](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Excalibre)\
**Post date:** [November 1, 2005, 8:02pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/brits-tell-me-about-lemonade/328956/1 "2005-11-01T20:02:39Z")

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I keep reading around here references to “lemonade”; in the United States, lemonade is just diluted, sweetened lemon juice, but apparently it’s some sort of soda or something over in England. What exactly is it?

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**Author:** ![Cliffy](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/c/59ef9b/32.png) [@Cliffy](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Cliffy)\
**Post date:** [November 1, 2005, 8:19pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/brits-tell-me-about-lemonade/328956/2 "2005-11-01T20:19:40Z")

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I’m not one of Her Majesty’s subjects, but I have had lemonade in London. It’s like fake lemonade, only carbonated. And maybe a little less sweet, but maybe that’s a masking effect from the carbonation.

–Cliffy

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**Post date:** [November 1, 2005, 8:23pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/brits-tell-me-about-lemonade/328956/3 "2005-11-01T20:23:57Z")

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It’s a clear, carbonated liquid that tastes absolutely nothing like lemons. Probably the most famous brand is [R Whites](http://www.britsuperstore.com/acatalog/R_Whites_Lemonade_2_Ltr_Bottle.html), although my particular favourite is Lowcock’s of Middlesbrough.

In Ireland, some lemonade is red which fools the hell out of English people who think it is [Tizer](http://www.tizer.co.uk/bottles.html).

Sometimes, you see so-called “traditional” lemonade, which is actually yellow and cloudy and looks as if it may have been made of real lemons (but most likely wasn’t).

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**Post date:** [November 1, 2005, 8:28pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/brits-tell-me-about-lemonade/328956/4 "2005-11-01T20:28:24Z")

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Lemonade in the UK usually means a carbonated lemon and line drink that tastes similar to 7up or sprite. So its not a real heavy lemon taste, and is a common mixer in alcoholic drinks.

My mum asked for a martini and lemonade in the US once, the barman found it completely unfathomable.

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**Post date:** [November 1, 2005, 8:31pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/brits-tell-me-about-lemonade/328956/5 "2005-11-01T20:31:30Z")

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American here. Just want to note that:

1.) Coca Cola objected strenuously (and apparently for a long time) with the French government at being pigeonholed as a “limonade”. Coke said it definitely was _not_ a “lemonade”, and I think they got the categorization changed. Maybe traces of this remain in Britain.

2.) At the (New) Jersey shore “Lemonade” is made fresh in your cup – a slice of lemon, a scoop of sugar already sit in the cup. When you buy it, they add water and shake it up with a cocktail shaker. Three simple ingredients, and no “high fructose corn syrup” or preservatives or coloring added. And no carbonation.

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**Post date:** [November 1, 2005, 8:45pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/brits-tell-me-about-lemonade/328956/6 "2005-11-01T20:45:26Z")

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Not too long ago, I mentioned to my mother-in-law (a South African) that I was dying for a big, cold glass of lemonade. She was so proud of herself when she showed up the next day with a bottle of… well, whatever it is that South Africans (and apparently Brits) consider to be lemonade. I couldn’t bear to disappoint her, and it actually was pretty good.

Still dying for some real lemonade though.

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**Author:** ![snorlax](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/9dc877/32.png) [@snorlax](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/snorlax)\
**Post date:** [November 1, 2005, 8:52pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/brits-tell-me-about-lemonade/328956/7 "2005-11-01T20:52:38Z")

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A classic English drink is Pimm’s with lemonade. Another (non-alcoholic) favourite is orange and lemonade. At home we mix it 50/50 with cheap red wine for a sort of minimalist sangria.

Lemon Fanta is similar but perhaps a bit more lemony.

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**Author:** ![Corii](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/c/aeb1de/32.png) [@Corii](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Corii)\
**Post date:** [November 1, 2005, 8:57pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/brits-tell-me-about-lemonade/328956/8 "2005-11-01T20:57:07Z")

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> [@snorlax](#):
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> A classic English drink is Pimm’s with lemonade. Another (non-alcoholic) favourite is orange and lemonade.

A related question, is “orange squash” anything like the drink Orangina?

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**Author:** ![CookingWithGas](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/cookingwithgas/32/485_2.png) [@CookingWithGas](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/CookingWithGas)\
**Post date:** [November 1, 2005, 8:59pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/brits-tell-me-about-lemonade/328956/9 "2005-11-01T20:59:53Z")

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In London I tried a shandy, which is about half ale and half lemonade (the English).

And they make fun of us for drinking cold fizzy beer.

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**Author:** ![Angua](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/a/8baadc/32.png) [@Angua](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Angua)\
**Post date:** [November 1, 2005, 9:06pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/brits-tell-me-about-lemonade/328956/10 "2005-11-01T21:06:35Z")

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> [@CookingWithGas](#):
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> In London I tried a shandy, which is about half ale and half lemonade (the English).
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> And they make fun of us for drinking cold fizzy beer.

We make even more fun of those who drink shandies.

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**Author:** ![The\_Hamster\_King](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/t/8edcca/32.png) [@The\_Hamster\_King](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/The_Hamster_King)\
**Post date:** [November 1, 2005, 9:17pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/brits-tell-me-about-lemonade/328956/11 "2005-11-01T21:17:55Z")

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No lemonade thread would be complete without a link to [Hot Dog On A Stick](http://www.hotdogonastick.com/frames.html), the \*\*Snakes On A Plane \*\* of fast food franchises.

Just four menu items. One of which is the name of the restaurant. And fresh-squeezed lemonade … .

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**Post date:** [November 1, 2005, 9:27pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/brits-tell-me-about-lemonade/328956/12 "2005-11-01T21:27:36Z")

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> [@Corii](#):
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> A related question, is “orange squash” anything like the drink Orangina?

Orange squash is a concentrated orange-flavoured liquid. You dilute with water in the proportion of about 1 part squash and 4 or 5 parts water. It is non fizzy and should contain at least some real orange juice in its ingredients.

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**Post date:** [November 1, 2005, 9:30pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/brits-tell-me-about-lemonade/328956/13 "2005-11-01T21:30:25Z")

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> [@Angua](#):
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> We make even more fun of those who drink shandies.

Leave us southern ponces alone for a moment, can’t you?

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**Post date:** [November 1, 2005, 9:33pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/brits-tell-me-about-lemonade/328956/14 "2005-11-01T21:33:13Z")

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> [@GorillaMan](#):
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> Leave us southern ponces alone for a moment, can’t you?

'Fraid not. Bah. Bloody southerners… 😉

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**Post date:** [November 1, 2005, 9:37pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/brits-tell-me-about-lemonade/328956/15 "2005-11-01T21:37:11Z")

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_One of the cross beams has gone out askew on the treadle_…grrr, bloody northerners…

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**Author:** ![Giles](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/giles/32/60_2.png) [@Giles](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Giles)\
**Post date:** [November 1, 2005, 9:52pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/brits-tell-me-about-lemonade/328956/16 "2005-11-01T21:52:26Z")

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The US name for what the British (and the Australians) call lemonade is:

**lemon-lime soda**

However, in practice, when you go into a bar or restaurant, you don’t ask for a “lemon-lime soda” – instead, you ask for a brand name, like 7UP. It’s actually quite strange, that there is a product that is widely available, but people hardly ever use the generic name for it in the US.

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**Author:** ![Cliffy](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/c/59ef9b/32.png) [@Cliffy](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Cliffy)\
**Post date:** [November 1, 2005, 10:04pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/brits-tell-me-about-lemonade/328956/17 "2005-11-01T22:04:14Z")

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> [@Giles](#):
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> It’s actually quite strange, that there is a product that is widely available, but people hardly ever use the generic name for it in the US.

It’s not that strange – the various lemon-lime sodas don’t taste the same.

–Cliffy

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**Author:** ![ticker](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/t/d07c76/32.png) [@ticker](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/ticker)\
**Post date:** [November 1, 2005, 10:08pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/brits-tell-me-about-lemonade/328956/18 "2005-11-01T22:08:53Z")

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> [@Giles](#):
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> The US name for what the British (and the Australians) call lemonade is:
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> **lemon-lime soda**

except without the lime bit.

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**Post date:** [November 1, 2005, 10:20pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/brits-tell-me-about-lemonade/328956/19 "2005-11-01T22:20:05Z")

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> [@ticker](#):
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> except without the lime bit.

I suspect that’s debatable, and that both lemon soda and lemon-lime soda are called lemonade in different countries. 7UP and Sprite are lemon-lime sodas, and (at least in Australia) they would be called by the generic name “lemonade”.

To illustrate how complex the issue is, there is [the Wikipedia’s article on lemonade.](http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Lemonade)

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**Author:** ![ticker](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/t/d07c76/32.png) [@ticker](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/ticker)\
**Post date:** [November 1, 2005, 10:48pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/brits-tell-me-about-lemonade/328956/20 "2005-11-01T22:48:19Z")

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> [@Giles](#):
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> I suspect that’s debatable, and that both lemon soda and lemon-lime soda are called lemonade in different countries.

Well the OP was directed at brits and here lemonade is just lemonade and is not the same as 7-up which we call 7-up - except perhaps in Glasgow where, at least way-back-when, all soda was called ‘ginger’ 😃 (confused my American mother enormously when she moved there in the late 50’s)

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