# Brits; What the heck is a Mucker Char Char? **URL:** \ **Category:** In My Humble Opinion\ **Created:** [November 3, 2007, 7:54pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/brits-what-the-heck-is-a-mucker-char-char/425128 "2007-11-03T19:54:53Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 20\ **Page:** 4
**Author:** ![Knowed\_Out](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/knowed_out/32/7380_2.png) [@Knowed\_Out](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Knowed_Out)\ **Post date:** [November 6, 2007, 9:02pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/brits-what-the-heck-is-a-mucker-char-char/425128/61 "2007-11-06T21:02:01Z")
[QUOTE=manx] And while we’re on the subject, what’s a pikey? Some sort of unpleasant teenager, I’ve gathered, but is there a specific meaning? [/QUOTE] Heh, I always thought they were saying “Paki,” like they had too many Pakistani immigrants running around. :smack: ---
**Author:** ![PaulParkhead](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/p/7ea924/32.png) [@PaulParkhead](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/PaulParkhead)\ **Post date:** [November 7, 2007, 1:02am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/brits-what-the-heck-is-a-mucker-char-char/425128/62 "2007-11-07T01:02:32Z")
Headline-wise, I believe it was one of the quality papers (Guardian or Indy, I guess) which ran a good pun on their sports page. The English goalkeeper David Seaman produced an excellent display in a penalty shoot-out against Spain. England advanced to the next round of the competition. Headline? SEAMAN SINKS ARMADA ---
**Author:** ![Mk\_VII](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/5f9b8f/32.png) [@Mk\_VII](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Mk_VII)\ **Post date:** [March 19, 2008, 1:16am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/brits-what-the-heck-is-a-mucker-char-char/425128/63 "2008-03-19T01:16:49Z")
The _Sun_ has excelled itself today \*\*Mucca chucksa cuppa water over Macca’s lawyer Shacka \*\* [The Sun](http://www.thesun.co.uk/sol/homepage/news/article930214.ece) ---
**Author:** ![Duck\_Duck\_Goose](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/50afbb/32.png) [@Duck\_Duck\_Goose](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Duck_Duck_Goose)\ **Post date:** [March 19, 2008, 2:59am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/brits-what-the-heck-is-a-mucker-char-char/425128/64 "2008-03-19T02:59:54Z")
Wow. What a great beat. And you can dance to it. Somewhere there’s an editor screaming in ecstasy. 😃 ---
**Author:** ![Bambi\_Hassenpfeffer](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/b/bbe5ce/32.png) [@Bambi\_Hassenpfeffer](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Bambi_Hassenpfeffer)\ **Post date:** [March 19, 2008, 5:20am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/brits-what-the-heck-is-a-mucker-char-char/425128/65 "2008-03-19T05:20:18Z")
[QUOTE=Zabali\_Clawbane] [Lady Sovereign](http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=j3YilQ6T2Co) is famous chav. Chavs sort of resemble rap music fans in the U.S. The [Wikipedia article](http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Chav) is pretty good at explaining about them. ETA: Chavs often have a [Croyden facelift](http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Croydon_facelift) also. [/QUOTE] And [this is a comedy sketch show](http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qSNK-9v7_JI&feature=related) featuring a set of chavs as characters. I have added “Am I bovvered?!” to my repertoire from this one. No one else gets it, but that’s OK. ---
**Author:** ![Beware\_of\_Doug](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/b/278dde/32.png) [@Beware\_of\_Doug](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Beware_of_Doug)\ **Post date:** [March 19, 2008, 1:38pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/brits-what-the-heck-is-a-mucker-char-char/425128/66 "2008-03-19T13:38:29Z")
[QUOTE=Sir Doris] SUPER CALEY GO BALLISTIC CELTIC ARE ATTROCIOUS [/QUOTE] um diddleiddleiddle um diddle iiiiiiiiiiii, um diddleiddleiddle um diddle iiiiiiiiiiii… 😃 …ying tong tiddle i po. ---
**Author:** ![Beware\_of\_Doug](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/b/278dde/32.png) [@Beware\_of\_Doug](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Beware_of_Doug)\ **Post date:** [March 19, 2008, 1:41pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/brits-what-the-heck-is-a-mucker-char-char/425128/67 "2008-03-19T13:41:59Z")
[QUOTE=Mk VII] The _Liverpool Daily Post_ printed, on the occasion of Dr Vivan Fuchs’ departure on the Commonwealth Transantarctic Expedition, DR FUCHS OFF TO SOUTH ICE (and recycled the pun a year later, sharing it with the _Daily Express_ ) FUCHS OFF AGAIN. [/QUOTE] If my google-fu is on today, this would have been _in the late 1950s._ It strains my credulity a bit that they’d actually have run at that time. ---
**Author:** ![Hostile\_Dialect](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/h/e495f1/32.png) [@Hostile\_Dialect](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Hostile_Dialect)\ **Post date:** [March 19, 2008, 7:03pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/brits-what-the-heck-is-a-mucker-char-char/425128/68 "2008-03-19T19:03:52Z")
What the hell is “Ms. Bing-Bing” saying in those little arguments? ---
**Author:** ![Roderick\_Femm](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/roderick_femm/32/14875_2.png) [@Roderick\_Femm](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Roderick_Femm)\ **Post date:** [March 19, 2008, 9:56pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/brits-what-the-heck-is-a-mucker-char-char/425128/69 "2008-03-19T21:56:34Z")
[QUOTE=Beware of Doug] …ying tong tiddle i po. [/QUOTE] I saw that! I believe it’s “ying tong iddle i po”, at least according to my Neddy Seagoon catchphrase compendium. Roddy, a true fan ---
**Author:** ![Bambi\_Hassenpfeffer](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/b/bbe5ce/32.png) [@Bambi\_Hassenpfeffer](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Bambi_Hassenpfeffer)\ **Post date:** [March 20, 2008, 1:20am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/brits-what-the-heck-is-a-mucker-char-char/425128/70 "2008-03-20T01:20:54Z")
[QUOTE=Hostile Dialect] What the hell is “Ms. Bing-Bing” saying in those little arguments? [/QUOTE] Her catchphrase is “Am I bothered?”/“I ain’t bothered”, which basically means she doesn’t care. She uses this horribly low-class accent which absolutely kills me. She’s a little easier to understand in [this one](http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZnhCrher9bo), which has her in a chemistry class, and in [this one](http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=oRfegO8tXZg&feature=related) she’s taking a French oral exam and screaming in Frenglish toward the end. Also kills me. ---
**Author:** ![SanVito](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/sanvito/32/2805_2.png) [@SanVito](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/SanVito)\ **Post date:** [March 20, 2008, 1:43pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/brits-what-the-heck-is-a-mucker-char-char/425128/71 "2008-03-20T13:43:13Z")
[QUOTE=eleanorigby] A plank is a stupid person(?) or is that just in “as thick as a plank”? Plonk is cheap drink. So, it’s either a cheap date or a boozer(American usage as in alcoholic, not pub). [/QUOTE] No, plonk is cheap booze, plonker is a stupid person (like plank) Boozer is either a heavy drinker OR a pub. ---
**Author:** ![SanVito](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/sanvito/32/2805_2.png) [@SanVito](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/SanVito)\ **Post date:** [March 20, 2008, 1:50pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/brits-what-the-heck-is-a-mucker-char-char/425128/72 "2008-03-20T13:50:30Z")
[QUOTE=Knowed Out] Heh, I always thought they were saying “Paki,” like they had too many Pakistani immigrants running around. :smack: [/QUOTE] Pikey is originally an insulting term for someone of gypsy/romany origins. Not one you should really throw around in PC company. Its meaning has now broadened to include anyone that’s a bit chavvy/grubby/thieving/low rent. And Paki is DEFINITELY not one to be throwing around in ANY company. We didn’t think twice when we were children of calling the corner shop the ‘Paki shop’ (even if most of the time these were run by Indians). I don’t think even my grandad would dare use the term nowadays. ---
**Author:** ![WOOKINPANUB](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/wookinpanub/32/132_2.png) [@WOOKINPANUB](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/WOOKINPANUB)\ **Post date:** [March 20, 2008, 2:34pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/brits-what-the-heck-is-a-mucker-char-char/425128/73 "2008-03-20T14:34:13Z")
[QUOTE=SanVito] And Paki is DEFINITELY not one to be throwing around in ANY company. We didn’t think twice when we were children of calling the corner shop the ‘Paki shop’ (even if most of the time these were run by Indians). I don’t think even my grandad would dare use the term nowadays. [/QUOTE] :eek: :eek: :eek: The English boyfriend uses this term all the time and I had no idea that it was derogatory. Guess I’ll have to ask him what he’s got against Pakistani’s. Someone mentioned the term “minger”, saying it rhymes with “singer”. I’ve heard him say “minge”, as in rhyming with “singe”. Are these unrelated words, or is it the same word with his pronunciation being particular to where he grew up? ---
**Author:** ![chowder](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/c/977dab/32.png) [@chowder](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/chowder)\ **Post date:** [March 20, 2008, 2:58pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/brits-what-the-heck-is-a-mucker-char-char/425128/74 "2008-03-20T14:58:45Z")
[QUOTE=WOOKINPANUB] :eek: :eek: :eek: The English boyfriend uses this term all the time and I had no idea that it was derogatory. Guess I’ll have to ask him what he’s got against Pakistani’s. Someone mentioned the term “minger”, saying it rhymes with “singer”. I’ve heard him say “minge”, as in rhyming with “singe”. Are these unrelated words, or is it the same word with his pronunciation being particular to where he grew up? [/QUOTE] Minge=Vagina. Not related at all unless the minger is female in which case she’ll have a minge 😛 ---
**Author:** ![WOOKINPANUB](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/wookinpanub/32/132_2.png) [@WOOKINPANUB](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/WOOKINPANUB)\ **Post date:** [March 20, 2008, 3:10pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/brits-what-the-heck-is-a-mucker-char-char/425128/75 "2008-03-20T15:10:20Z")
[QUOTE=chowder] Minge=Vagina. Not related at all unless the minger is female in which case she’ll have a minge 😛 [/QUOTE] Thanks, **chowder**. I wonder what other filth he’s been spouting that goes right over my head. ---
**Author:** ![Szlater](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/90ced4/32.png) [@Szlater](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Szlater)\ **Post date:** [March 20, 2008, 3:22pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/brits-what-the-heck-is-a-mucker-char-char/425128/76 "2008-03-20T15:22:59Z")
[QUOTE=WOOKINPANUB] :eek: :eek: :eek: The English boyfriend uses this term all the time and I had no idea that it was derogatory. Guess I’ll have to ask him what he’s got against Pakistani’s. [/QUOTE] Not just Pakistanis, but anyone who has any connection with Pakistan/India/Bangladesh etc. I used to get called it all the time at school. It’s not a thing of the past either, my brother was recently accosted in a night club in London by a group of twats chanting “Paki Paki” and pointing at him. It’s as bad as calling a black person a nigger. ---
**Author:** ![Hostile\_Dialect](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/h/e495f1/32.png) [@Hostile\_Dialect](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Hostile_Dialect)\ **Post date:** [March 20, 2008, 6:04pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/brits-what-the-heck-is-a-mucker-char-char/425128/77 "2008-03-20T18:04:49Z")
Sounds like your boyfriend is a real class act, **WOOKINPANUB**. ---
**Author:** ![Sigmagirl](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/c89c15/32.png) [@Sigmagirl](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Sigmagirl)\ **Post date:** [March 20, 2008, 6:20pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/brits-what-the-heck-is-a-mucker-char-char/425128/78 "2008-03-20T18:20:56Z")
> [@](#): > > In Scotland, we used to call them “neds”, though that certainly added the expectation that the people referred to would drink cheap tonic wine in the local park and have a deep love of petty, pointless violence. Does that derive from the teddy boys of the 1960s? “Plonk” for cheap booze, more specifically wine, is a corruption of \*Vin de Blanc. \* ---
**Author:** ![GorillaMan](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/g/50afbb/32.png) [@GorillaMan](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/GorillaMan)\ **Post date:** [March 20, 2008, 6:25pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/brits-what-the-heck-is-a-mucker-char-char/425128/79 "2008-03-20T18:25:19Z")
[QUOTE=Sigmagirl] Does that derive from the teddy boys of the 1960s? [/QUOTE] Possibly, but nobody knows for sure. (And you mistyped 1950s? 😉 ) ---
**Author:** ![chowder](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/c/977dab/32.png) [@chowder](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/chowder)\ **Post date:** [March 21, 2008, 7:57am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/brits-what-the-heck-is-a-mucker-char-char/425128/80 "2008-03-21T07:57:13Z")
[QUOTE=Sigmagirl] Does that derive from the teddy boys of the 1960s? “Plonk” for cheap booze, more specifically wine, is a corruption of \*Vin de Blanc. \* [/QUOTE] Ah Teddy Boys 😛 I used to be one y’know 😃 Yes indeedy. Powder Blue suit with black velvet collar and cuffs,drainpipe trousers, beetle crusher shoes,gleaming white shirt, bootlace tie with a buffalo head fastener, a pink handerchief in top pocket shaped into 3 peaks. About 1½ lbs of Brylcreem© slapped on my noggin, hair carefully combed into a Tony Curtis and I was ready to hit the town in search of lusty wenches. Happy days [Previous page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/brits-what-the-heck-is-a-mucker-char-char/425128.md?page=3) [Next page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/brits-what-the-heck-is-a-mucker-char-char/425128.md?page=5)