# Broadchurch: Tonight (08/07/13) BBC America

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**Category:** Cafe Society\
**Created:** [August 7, 2013, 2:03pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/broadchurch-tonight-08-07-13-bbc-america/665586 "2013-08-07T14:03:28Z")\
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**Author:** ![Mahaloth](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/mahaloth/32/1079_2.png) [@Mahaloth](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Mahaloth)\
**Post date:** [August 15, 2013, 3:29am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/broadchurch-tonight-08-07-13-bbc-america/665586/21 "2013-08-15T03:29:05Z")

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I’m 5 episodes in and loving it. It does get a bit too broody at times, but I am very much interested in the crime and am trying to figure it out.

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**Author:** ![BrokenBriton](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/b/4bbf92/32.png) [@BrokenBriton](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/BrokenBriton)\
**Post date:** [August 15, 2013, 8:06am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/broadchurch-tonight-08-07-13-bbc-america/665586/22 "2013-08-15T08:06:54Z")

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Yep, it is of the same broad genre as The Killing - the original Danish Killing, anyway.

It’s nice to be lured in by intelligent character development (esp. emotional development) - as well as taking a good look at a particular type of society/community - rather than the plot relying on another shooting spree or another alien invasion, etc.

Being treated like an adult!

Glad you’re all enjoying it.

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**Author:** ![SanVito](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/sanvito/32/2805_2.png) [@SanVito](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/SanVito)\
**Post date:** [August 15, 2013, 9:32am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/broadchurch-tonight-08-07-13-bbc-america/665586/23 "2013-08-15T09:32:46Z")

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> [@Dewey\_Finn](#):
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> After watching the first two episodes on BBC America, it occurs to me that this is very similar to The Killing, a Danish programme that was adapted for American television. (Note that I’ve only ever seen the American version of The Killing.) Both programmes focus on the investigation into the murder of a child and how the murder affects everyone in the community. And even just two episodes in, it appears that _everyone_ has some deep dark secret that may or may not implicate them.

You should really try and watch the Danish original, it was brilliant and had MUCH better reviews than the American version.

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**Author:** ![Mahaloth](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/mahaloth/32/1079_2.png) [@Mahaloth](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Mahaloth)\
**Post date:** [August 19, 2013, 3:10am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/broadchurch-tonight-08-07-13-bbc-america/665586/24 "2013-08-19T03:10:04Z")

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My wife and I finished it tonight.

Wow.

We figured it out towards the end of episode 7(out of 8), but it was a great show and a very good reveal/ending.

We loved it and will watch series 2 next year. We can’t imagine series 2 living up to this, though.

Loved it.

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**Author:** ![Hrududu](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/h/3ec8ea/32.png) [@Hrududu](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Hrududu)\
**Post date:** [August 19, 2013, 10:37pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/broadchurch-tonight-08-07-13-bbc-america/665586/25 "2013-08-19T22:37:46Z")

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Watching it when it aired it definitely made me think that ITV was using The Killing and The Bridge as templates for a British drama. Not that I’m complaining, I enjoyed both of those. But at times it seemed like a pretty shameless lift from one or other show.

I really enjoyed David Tennant and Olivia Coleman though. Great pairing.

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**Author:** ![BrokenBriton](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/b/4bbf92/32.png) [@BrokenBriton](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/BrokenBriton)\
**Post date:** [August 20, 2013, 6:42am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/broadchurch-tonight-08-07-13-bbc-america/665586/26 "2013-08-20T06:42:08Z")

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Having seen all three (original versions), if I knew what a “shameless lift” was I’d say my arse.

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**Author:** ![ThelmaLou](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/thelmalou/32/390_2.png) [@ThelmaLou](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/ThelmaLou)\
**Post date:** [August 29, 2013, 3:25am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/broadchurch-tonight-08-07-13-bbc-america/665586/27 "2013-08-29T03:25:37Z")

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Not asking for a spoiler, but does Alec have some neurological problem?

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**Author:** ![Mahaloth](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/mahaloth/32/1079_2.png) [@Mahaloth](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Mahaloth)\
**Post date:** [August 29, 2013, 3:33am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/broadchurch-tonight-08-07-13-bbc-america/665586/28 "2013-08-29T03:33:34Z")

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> [@ThelmaLou](#):
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> Not asking for a spoiler, but does Alec have some neurological problem?

It’s better just to find out what is up with him by watching, but I’ll spoil-box a one word answer for you.

No.

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**Author:** ![ThelmaLou](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/thelmalou/32/390_2.png) [@ThelmaLou](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/ThelmaLou)\
**Post date:** [August 29, 2013, 10:30am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/broadchurch-tonight-08-07-13-bbc-america/665586/29 "2013-08-29T10:30:33Z")

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Hmmm… okay. Thanks.

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**Author:** ![BrokenBriton](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/b/4bbf92/32.png) [@BrokenBriton](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/BrokenBriton)\
**Post date:** [August 29, 2013, 12:52pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/broadchurch-tonight-08-07-13-bbc-america/665586/30 "2013-08-29T12:52:27Z")

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You enjoying it - better than Luther, right?

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**Author:** ![ThelmaLou](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/thelmalou/32/390_2.png) [@ThelmaLou](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/ThelmaLou)\
**Post date:** [August 29, 2013, 1:18pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/broadchurch-tonight-08-07-13-bbc-america/665586/31 "2013-08-29T13:18:08Z")

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I had to give up on Luther. As I’ve said before, he makes Elliot Stabler look mellow. (Although he is reeeeally attractive.)

I’m concluding that \*Broadchurch \*is not so much about the murder as it is about the effect of the murder and the investigation on the family, town, and detectives, correct?

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**Author:** ![BrokenBriton](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/b/4bbf92/32.png) [@BrokenBriton](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/BrokenBriton)\
**Post date:** [August 29, 2013, 2:38pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/broadchurch-tonight-08-07-13-bbc-america/665586/32 "2013-08-29T14:38:47Z")

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I guess. If you want it to be - it certainly seems to work on that level.

Others see it more as a murder mystery with clues and red herrings littered about. For me, it’s also a work for the [UK] zeitgeist, that is a study on amoral media and media influence on police, police investigations, relatives of victimes and their communities. Perhaps especially on indirect, underhand and even occasonally unintended influences and consequences.

The UK has seen a number of cases where media has played unfortunate roles.

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**Author:** ![ThelmaLou](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/thelmalou/32/390_2.png) [@ThelmaLou](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/ThelmaLou)\
**Post date:** [September 5, 2013, 2:32am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/broadchurch-tonight-08-07-13-bbc-america/665586/33 "2013-09-05T02:32:23Z")

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Okay. Someone who has seen the whole series: does anything happen to the dog that belongs to the creepy lady who loves in the trailer? Put the answer in a spoiler box in case others don’t want to know. Thx.

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**Author:** ![Mahaloth](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/mahaloth/32/1079_2.png) [@Mahaloth](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Mahaloth)\
**Post date:** [September 5, 2013, 2:50am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/broadchurch-tonight-08-07-13-bbc-america/665586/34 "2013-09-05T02:50:19Z")

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> [@ThelmaLou](#):
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> Okay. Someone who has seen the whole series: does anything happen to the dog that belongs to the creepy lady who loves in the trailer? Put the answer in a spoiler box in case others don’t want to know. Thx.

No. The dog is fine. Anything with it is a big tease.

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**Author:** ![ThelmaLou](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/thelmalou/32/390_2.png) [@ThelmaLou](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/ThelmaLou)\
**Post date:** [September 5, 2013, 11:32am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/broadchurch-tonight-08-07-13-bbc-america/665586/35 "2013-09-05T11:32:37Z")

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Thanks.

Not surprised at tonight’s turn of events. Very sad, however. The slow pace is wearing. Briscoe and Green would have had this solved by now.

Did Alec intend to go to bed with Becca, had she been willing? WTF?

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**Author:** ![BrokenBriton](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/b/4bbf92/32.png) [@BrokenBriton](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/BrokenBriton)\
**Post date:** [September 5, 2013, 1:17pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/broadchurch-tonight-08-07-13-bbc-america/665586/36 "2013-09-05T13:17:24Z")

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He’s just inept, in sex as in police work. As perhaps we mostly all are.

I thought Tennant did _embarrassment_ quite well. Love, love the acting in Broadchurch.

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**Author:** ![BrokenBriton](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/b/4bbf92/32.png) [@BrokenBriton](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/BrokenBriton)\
**Post date:** [September 5, 2013, 1:27pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/broadchurch-tonight-08-07-13-bbc-america/665586/37 "2013-09-05T13:27:17Z")

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btw, how come Broadchurch gets 35 comments and some bullshit about a dome gets 434 with 21,000 page views… jeez.

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**Author:** ![ThelmaLou](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/thelmalou/32/390_2.png) [@ThelmaLou](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/ThelmaLou)\
**Post date:** [September 5, 2013, 1:54pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/broadchurch-tonight-08-07-13-bbc-america/665586/38 "2013-09-05T13:54:16Z")

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> [@BrokenBriton](#):
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> I guess. If you want it to be - it certainly seems to work on that level.
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> Others see it more as a murder mystery with clues and red herrings littered about. For me, it’s also a work for the [UK] zeitgeist, that is a study on amoral media and media influence on police, police investigations, relatives of victimes and their communities. Perhaps especially on indirect, underhand and even occasonally unintended influences and consequences.
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> The UK has seen a number of cases where media has played unfortunate roles.

It does seem to be turning out to be about this. As for _unintended_, that’s like that female reporter and her editor throwing a bomb in a crowded room and then saying, “We didn’t _intend_ for anyone to get hurt. We just wanted to make a big noise because…well, people **like** big noises.”

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**Author:** ![BrokenBriton](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/b/4bbf92/32.png) [@BrokenBriton](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/BrokenBriton)\
**Post date:** [September 5, 2013, 2:07pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/broadchurch-tonight-08-07-13-bbc-america/665586/39 "2013-09-05T14:07:10Z")

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> [@ThelmaLou](#):
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> It does seem to be turning out to be about this. As for _unintended_, that’s like that female reporter and her editor throwing a bomb in a crowded room and then saying, “We didn’t _intend_ for anyone to get hurt. We just wanted to make a big noise because…well, people **like** big noises.”

There’s no reason for an American to know about the atmosphere in recent years (that culminated in a Public Inquiry into media) but this link is a classic example of time and place. Fwiw, plenty of viewers went along and enjoyed the overt storylines in Broadchurch without considering undercurrents, which I guess is the hallmark of good writing:

> **[Christopher Jefferies: tabloid frenzy hampered Joanna Yeates investigation](https://www.theguardian.com/uk/2012/mar/16/christopher-jeffries-tabloid-frenzy-joanna-yeates)**
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> Bristol landlord, who was wrongly arrested after tenant's murder, attacks 'character assassination' by newspapers

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**Post date:** [September 5, 2013, 2:11pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/broadchurch-tonight-08-07-13-bbc-america/665586/40 "2013-09-05T14:11:31Z")

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Nigel (the bald guy who works for Mark Latimer) seemed _way_ too gung-ho about encouraging the mob at Jack Marshall’s house.

And while I still think the show is copying the approach of The Killing in focusing on how a town is affected by a murder, the creator claims that [Murder One](https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Murder_One_%28TV_series%29) (a Stephen Bochco drama from 1996) was his inspiration.

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