# Broadchurch: Tonight (08/07/13) BBC America **URL:** \ **Category:** Cafe Society\ **Created:** [August 7, 2013, 2:03pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/broadchurch-tonight-08-07-13-bbc-america/665586 "2013-08-07T14:03:28Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 20\ **Page:** 3
**Author:** ![Springtime\_for\_Spacers](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/a3d4f5/32.png) [@Springtime\_for\_Spacers](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Springtime_for_Spacers)\ **Post date:** [September 5, 2013, 2:49pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/broadchurch-tonight-08-07-13-bbc-america/665586/41 "2013-09-05T14:49:11Z")
> [@BrokenBriton](#): > > There’s no reason for an American to know about the atmosphere in recent years (that culminated in a Public Inquiry into media) but this link is a classic example of time and place. Fwiw, plenty of viewers went along and enjoyed the overt storylines in Broadchurch without considering undercurrents, which I guess is the hallmark of good writing: > > [Christopher Jefferies: tabloid frenzy hampered Joanna Yeates investigation | Christopher Jefferies | The Guardian](http://www.theguardian.com/uk/2012/mar/16/christopher-jeffries-tabloid-frenzy-joanna-yeates) In no way a spoiler for Broadchurch: In the Joanna Yeates case the tabloids actually aided the murderer who was trying to frame the landlord. The persecution by media of a man who wasn’t even really odd but could be made out to be so was a disgrace. Back to Broadchurch, one of the best things I’ve watched all year. ---
**Author:** ![BrokenBriton](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/b/4bbf92/32.png) [@BrokenBriton](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/BrokenBriton)\ **Post date:** [September 5, 2013, 3:16pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/broadchurch-tonight-08-07-13-bbc-america/665586/42 "2013-09-05T15:16:27Z")
… not to mention the hampering of police inquires as personified by hacking into the voicemail of murdered Millie Dowler (and what it did to her parents given hope it was their daughter accessing her own voicemail): > **[Murder of Milly Dowler](https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Murder_of_Milly_Dowler#Voicemail_tampering)** > > On 21 March 2002, Amanda Jane "Milly" Dowler, a 13-year-old English schoolgirl, was reported missing by her parents after failing to return home from school and not being seen since walking along Station Avenue in Walton-on-Thames, Surrey, that afternoon. Following an extensive search, her remains were discovered in Yateley Heath Woods in Yateley, Hampshire, on 18 September. > On 23 June 2011, Levi Bellfield, already subject to three life sentences with a whole life tariff imposed for the murde... ---
**Author:** ![njtt](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/n/ecd19e/32.png) [@njtt](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/njtt)\ **Post date:** [September 5, 2013, 3:17pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/broadchurch-tonight-08-07-13-bbc-america/665586/43 "2013-09-05T15:17:17Z")
> [@BrokenBriton](#): > > btw, how come Broadchurch gets 35 comments and some bullshit about a dome gets 434 with 21,000 page views… jeez. Well, it is a show where spoilers really would spoil it for those who haven’t seen it all through yet, and it is kind of difficult to say very much of substance about Broadchurch without dropping all sorts of spoilers. If you can’t discuss the plot, except in the broadest generalities, there is not a lot to say. My main question about Broadchurch is HTF are they are going to do a second series, as they announced they are going to, but I can’t really explain why it seems so impossible to do a second series without spoilers. ---
**Author:** ![AuntiePam](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/a/f19dbf/32.png) [@AuntiePam](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/AuntiePam)\ **Post date:** [September 5, 2013, 3:41pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/broadchurch-tonight-08-07-13-bbc-america/665586/44 "2013-09-05T15:41:24Z")
> [@ThelmaLou](#): > > Did Alec intend to go to bed with Becca, had she been willing? WTF? And did she say “I’m worried that you’d collapse on me”? I’m liking the show more now that I’ve spoiled myself and know who killed Danny. Before, I was watching for clues and not paying much attention to the acting and the relationships. I was having a hard time understanding why Jack didn’t explain the circumstances of his conviction. Now I think that it was partly because he didn’t want to share his grief, relive the loss, and partly pride – “I don’t owe you people an explanation! You know me – that should be enough.” But there could also have been a teensy bit of residual guilt or shame, a 40-year-old man and a 15-year-old girl. Some little part of him thinking this isn’t quite right, and that he was taking advantage. But who knows. And maybe I was still thinking of him as Walder Frey. 🙂 ---
**Author:** ![Dewey\_Finn](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/dewey_finn/32/4222_2.png) [@Dewey\_Finn](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Dewey_Finn)\ **Post date:** [September 5, 2013, 3:44pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/broadchurch-tonight-08-07-13-bbc-america/665586/45 "2013-09-05T15:44:08Z")
He _did_ collapse, an episode or two ago. I think he has some health issues possibly related to the previous investigation that went badly. (BTW, have they spelled out exactly what happened in the previous case?) ---
**Author:** ![JohnGalt](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/johngalt/32/184_2.png) [@JohnGalt](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/JohnGalt)\ **Post date:** [September 5, 2013, 4:10pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/broadchurch-tonight-08-07-13-bbc-america/665586/46 "2013-09-05T16:10:58Z")
> [@Springtime\_for\_Spacers](#): > > … > > Back to Broadchurch, one of the best things I’ve watched all year. I hope it gets some awards (Emmys?) but it’s early in the cycle for those things. AV Club is giving the episodes A’s and B+'s. I’m really learning a lot about the town and its people, more so than other recent shows; it’s almost like knowing all of the characters in Mayberry. Broadchurch itself is almost a character in the show. On one hand, I’d like to keep on seeing what happens in the town in a second season, but on the other hand, I wouldn’t want a second murder in the town or for a second season of Dallas/Falcon Crest fluff. ---
**Author:** ![BrokenBriton](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/b/4bbf92/32.png) [@BrokenBriton](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/BrokenBriton)\ **Post date:** [September 5, 2013, 4:54pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/broadchurch-tonight-08-07-13-bbc-america/665586/47 "2013-09-05T16:54:58Z")
> [@AuntiePam](#): > > I was having a hard time understanding why Jack didn’t explain the circumstances of his conviction. Now I think that it was partly because he didn’t want to share his grief, relive the loss, and partly pride – “I don’t owe you people an explanation! You know me – that should be enough.” But there could also have been a teensy bit of residual guilt or shame, a 40-year-old man and a 15-year-old girl. Some little part of him thinking this isn’t quite right, and that he was taking advantage. But who knows. And maybe I was still thinking of him as Walder Frey. 🙂 Am I right in thinking the newspaper told the police of Jack’s conviction? And that then caused the police investigation to go off at a tangent? And it also caused the public - the local Broadchurch-raised public anyway - to form a mob to go after him ? Something else for media to report on. So, imo, in ‘Jack’s Story’ we witness a standard tabloid methodology; once the public is interested, keep the narrative going on a daily basis at any price. ---
**Author:** ![AuntiePam](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/a/f19dbf/32.png) [@AuntiePam](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/AuntiePam)\ **Post date:** [September 5, 2013, 5:44pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/broadchurch-tonight-08-07-13-bbc-america/665586/48 "2013-09-05T17:44:46Z")
I believe you’re right. What I don’t get is that the big-city journalist is working for a tabloid, yet acts all surprised when the tabloid changes her story to make it more sensational. ---
**Author:** ![ThelmaLou](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/thelmalou/32/390_2.png) [@ThelmaLou](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/ThelmaLou)\ **Post date:** [September 5, 2013, 7:38pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/broadchurch-tonight-08-07-13-bbc-america/665586/49 "2013-09-05T19:38:08Z")
> [@AuntiePam](#): > > I believe you’re right. > > What I don’t get is that the big-city journalist is working for a tabloid, yet acts all surprised when the tabloid changes her story to make it more sensational. Yeah, that was just plain disingenuous of her. She makes me sick, frankly. And I’m hoping that puppy dog slobbering after her is permanently turned off by the latest (as of last night) events. The day after the last episode airs here, I propose a giant Broadchurch Online Dopefest where everyone can let out the stuff they’ve been keeping to themselves and air all the spoilers. 🆒 ---
**Author:** ![BrokenBriton](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/b/4bbf92/32.png) [@BrokenBriton](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/BrokenBriton)\ **Post date:** [September 5, 2013, 8:05pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/broadchurch-tonight-08-07-13-bbc-america/665586/50 "2013-09-05T20:05:38Z")
> [@ThelmaLou](#): > > She makes me sick, frankly. Yay, now you’re right into it! 😃 You won’t believe the extent of the theories that ranged over here. One of mine - no spoiler for you as you won’t have this in the US - is that in the UK farm diesel fuel is red (it’s a tax thing, agri tax is lower) and I thought what was dripping from the boys fingers in the opening credits was siphoned diesel … I went off track entirely at that point … so many theories … ---
**Author:** ![Dewey\_Finn](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/dewey_finn/32/4222_2.png) [@Dewey\_Finn](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Dewey_Finn)\ **Post date:** [September 5, 2013, 8:13pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/broadchurch-tonight-08-07-13-bbc-america/665586/51 "2013-09-05T20:13:21Z")
Actually, I think they dye agricultural diesel red in the US as well. ---
**Author:** ![BrokenBriton](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/b/4bbf92/32.png) [@BrokenBriton](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/BrokenBriton)\ **Post date:** [September 5, 2013, 8:16pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/broadchurch-tonight-08-07-13-bbc-america/665586/52 "2013-09-05T20:16:19Z")
They do? :smack: ---
**Author:** ![Snickers](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/5daacb/32.png) [@Snickers](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Snickers)\ **Post date:** [September 5, 2013, 8:20pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/broadchurch-tonight-08-07-13-bbc-america/665586/53 "2013-09-05T20:20:18Z")
I believe that they used to in the US - whether they do anymore I don’t know. Way back when before med school and kids and all that, Dad used to farm (his cousin still does). They’d dye the agricultural gas red because of subsidies - farmers could buy it cheaper than Average Joe. The red dye was to discourage them from then reselling it, or taxation, or something. No idea if that’s still the case. On edit, a quick Googling and glance at the first page seems to indicate that they still do dye agricultural diesel red in the US - it’s to help enforcement quickly identify it and incur any penalties for inappropriate use, as it’s not taxed like regular diesel. ---
**Author:** ![Fleetwood](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/fleetwood/32/271_2.png) [@Fleetwood](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Fleetwood)\ **Post date:** [September 6, 2013, 3:59pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/broadchurch-tonight-08-07-13-bbc-america/665586/54 "2013-09-06T15:59:42Z")
Off road diesel is dyed in the US, as well as number two heating oil (same thing, essentially). That way if an over the road truck or other diesel vehicle is pulled over or at a truck stop, the fuel can be tested on the spot. It is most definitely a taxation issue. The un-dyed fuels don’t have the road taxes figured into the price. ---
**Author:** ![SanVito](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/sanvito/32/2805_2.png) [@SanVito](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/SanVito)\ **Post date:** [September 6, 2013, 4:32pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/broadchurch-tonight-08-07-13-bbc-america/665586/55 "2013-09-06T16:32:15Z")
> [@njtt](#): > > A 99 is a cone with soft vanilla ice cream, and a [milk chocolate flake](http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/4/4b/Cadbury-Flake-Split.jpg) (also something you don’t really have in America) stuck in it. Yes, they are excellent. (I have no idea where the name comes from.) I feel obliged to post [some pictures of the complete 99](https://www.google.co.uk/search?q=99+ice+cream&rlz=1C5CHFA_enGB503GB504&tbm=isch&tbo=u&source=univ&sa=X&ei=GwMqUryDDaH17AbZ34HAAg&sqi=2&ved=0CEEQsAQ&biw=1491&bih=1275). It’s made with the cheapest, cream-lacking ice cream imagineable, and seems to be utterly delicious precisely for this reason. ---
**Author:** ![BrokenBriton](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/b/4bbf92/32.png) [@BrokenBriton](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/BrokenBriton)\ **Post date:** [September 6, 2013, 5:41pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/broadchurch-tonight-08-07-13-bbc-america/665586/56 "2013-09-06T17:41:04Z")
I’m hoping we have now resolved the red diesel question … ---
**Author:** ![Dewey\_Finn](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/dewey_finn/32/4222_2.png) [@Dewey\_Finn](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Dewey_Finn)\ **Post date:** [September 12, 2013, 11:55am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/broadchurch-tonight-08-07-13-bbc-america/665586/57 "2013-09-12T11:55:38Z")
So last night BBC America aired the sixth episode, in which the entire town came together for the funeral of Jack Marshall. Everyone, particularly the journalists, looked guilty for wrongly suspecting him. Later, Susan Wright, the trailer-park resident with the dog, gave Danny’s skateboard to Tom, the son of the local detective on the case. This, combined with some deep dark secret dug up by the journalists, made her look awfully suspicious. But what I didn’t get is why Olly was so enthusiastic to publish Susan’s secrets, after the experience with Jack. (And also Nigel, Mark Latimer’s employee, is apparently some sort of psycho.) As I said earlier, this is _just_ like The Killing. Everyone in town (including the toddlers and pets) has some deep dark secret in their backgrounds that means they might be the one. ---
**Author:** ![LawMonkey](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/l/d6d6ee/32.png) [@LawMonkey](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/LawMonkey)\ **Post date:** [September 12, 2013, 2:29pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/broadchurch-tonight-08-07-13-bbc-america/665586/58 "2013-09-12T14:29:22Z")
> [@Dewey\_Finn](#): > > So last night BBC America aired the sixth episode, in which the entire town came together for the funeral of Jack Marshall. Everyone, particularly the journalists, looked guilty for wrongly suspecting him. Later, Susan Wright, the trailer-park resident with the dog, gave Danny’s skateboard to Tom, the son of the local detective on the case. This, combined with some deep dark secret dug up by the journalists, made her look awfully suspicious. But what I didn’t get is why Olly was so enthusiastic to publish Susan’s secrets, after the experience with Jack. > > (And also Nigel, Mark Latimer’s employee, is apparently some sort of psycho.) > > As I said earlier, this is _just_ like The Killing. Everyone in town (including the toddlers and pets) has some deep dark secret in their backgrounds that means they might be the one. You should go back and re-watch a few episodes. Susan’s been looking awfully shady (to us in the audience, at least) for a very long time, and she met with Nigel in an alley a few weeks back and had some sort of confrontation. Indications are very strong that both of them are involved in the crime somehow, but I’m at a loss for motive. As to Olly’s little vendetta against Susan–Susan threatened to have her raped, which apparently is something she’s experienced in the past. ---
**Author:** ![Dewey\_Finn](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/dewey_finn/32/4222_2.png) [@Dewey\_Finn](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Dewey_Finn)\ **Post date:** [September 12, 2013, 2:32pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/broadchurch-tonight-08-07-13-bbc-america/665586/59 "2013-09-12T14:32:28Z")
> [@LawMonkey](#): > > As to Olly’s little vendetta against Susan–Susan threatened to have her raped, which apparently is something she’s experienced in the past. Olly is the **male** junior reporter on the local newspaper, who is hoping that this story is **his** ticket to the big leagues. So who did Susan threaten to rape? ---
**Author:** ![BrokenBriton](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/b/4bbf92/32.png) [@BrokenBriton](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/BrokenBriton)\ **Post date:** [September 12, 2013, 2:52pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/broadchurch-tonight-08-07-13-bbc-america/665586/60 "2013-09-12T14:52:05Z")
> [@Dewey\_Finn](#): > > As I said earlier, this is _just_ like The Killing. Everyone in town (including the toddlers and pets) has some deep dark secret in their backgrounds that means they might be the one. You need to put that bone down now. [Previous page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/broadchurch-tonight-08-07-13-bbc-america/665586.md?page=2) [Next page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/broadchurch-tonight-08-07-13-bbc-america/665586.md?page=4)