# Broccoli pronunciation

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**Category:** Factual Questions\
**Created:** [November 18, 2009, 6:56am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/broccoli-pronunciation/518012 "2009-11-18T06:56:12Z")\
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Is there a regional or cultural distinction in the pronunciation of the word “broccoli” similar to the aych/haych pronunciation for the letter ‘H’?

I say “broccolee” and so does a friend of mine, but a lot of other people say “broccolai” (especially where I’m living at the moment). It drives me nuts.

So is there a history to this split?

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**Post date:** [November 18, 2009, 7:12am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/broccoli-pronunciation/518012/2 "2009-11-18T07:12:06Z")

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I’ve never heard anyone pronounce it “broccolai.” Where are you?

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**Post date:** [November 18, 2009, 7:22am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/broccoli-pronunciation/518012/3 "2009-11-18T07:22:11Z")

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In the Blue Mountains outside of Sydney, Australia. I grew up in the suburbs of Sydney, and so did my friend.

I know that’s pretty obscure, but I’m wondering if the “broccolai” pronunciation exists anywhere else in the world (e.g. Ireland, say, or parts of the US).

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**Post date:** [November 18, 2009, 8:54am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/broccoli-pronunciation/518012/4 "2009-11-18T08:54:47Z")

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When I saw that aitch/haitch distinction, I figured you were from Oz and either Catholic or Protestant with Catholic friends. I have a work mate who was schooled at a Catholic school and always pronounces it haitch.

Back to the OP. Generally as you pronounce it around here, although I have heard the other, but can’t remember where or when.

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**Post date:** [November 18, 2009, 9:18am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/broccoli-pronunciation/518012/5 "2009-11-18T09:18:06Z")

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Yes, while I’m not Catholic (or Protestant, for that matter – I’m Orthodox), most of my friends were Catholics when I was young, and I so was bombarded with the “haitch” pronunciation regularly.

Maybe you heard “broccolai” from some Blue Mountains residents visiting NZ… 😉

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**Post date:** [November 18, 2009, 9:43am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/broccoli-pronunciation/518012/6 "2009-11-18T09:43:32Z")

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I’ve heard it pronounced broccol-eye but never with an ‘ai’ sound at the end. I’m a broccolee (but not a long ee sound) person, myself,

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**Post date:** [November 18, 2009, 9:46am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/broccoli-pronunciation/518012/7 "2009-11-18T09:46:18Z")

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Just to clarify, by “broccolai” I mean “broccol-eye”.

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**Post date:** [November 18, 2009, 10:13am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/broccoli-pronunciation/518012/8 "2009-11-18T10:13:44Z")

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Never heard that, but I hear brock-lee (2 syllables) very commonly.

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**Post date:** [November 18, 2009, 10:30am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/broccoli-pronunciation/518012/9 "2009-11-18T10:30:35Z")

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> [@thelurkinghorror](#):
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> Never heard that, but I hear brock-lee (2 syllables) very commonly.

Yeah, that’s the one I thought he was going to be talking about. Hearing it pronounced brock-co-lee is like hearing chocolate pronounced chock-co-late (long a).

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**Post date:** [November 18, 2009, 12:28pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/broccoli-pronunciation/518012/10 "2009-11-18T12:28:28Z")

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> [@Kiwi\_Fruit](#):
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> When I saw that aitch/haitch distinction, I figured you were from Oz and either Catholic or Protestant with Catholic friends.

Haitch is fairly common in the UK, albeit it is perceived as an incorrect pronunciation. I have never heard “broccol-eye” in either UK or US.

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**Post date:** [November 18, 2009, 12:45pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/broccoli-pronunciation/518012/11 "2009-11-18T12:45:34Z")

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I’d say it’s a regional Australian thing. I’m just back from visiting friends on the Gold Coast (southern Queensland) and they pronounced in Brocol-eye. It didn’t strike me as particularly odd (although I obviously noted it), after all they call courgette’s ‘zucchini’ and aubergines ‘egg-plant’. Bloody strange, you colonials…

OB

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**Post date:** [November 18, 2009, 1:56pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/broccoli-pronunciation/518012/12 "2009-11-18T13:56:21Z")

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> [@Oswald\_Bastable](#):
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> after all they call courgette’s ‘zucchini’ …

Pronounced “zoosh-‘n’-eye”, of course. 😉

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**Post date:** [November 18, 2009, 1:56pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/broccoli-pronunciation/518012/13 "2009-11-18T13:56:25Z")

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'Merkin checking in. Broccoll-eye is not something I’ve ever heard in any part of the US.

The predominiant pronunciation here seems to be BROCK-lee or maybe BROCK-uh-lee where the middle uh sound is so minimal it’s almost a schwa.

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**Post date:** [November 18, 2009, 2:18pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/broccoli-pronunciation/518012/14 "2009-11-18T14:18:36Z")

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When my husband and I make dinner together we sometimes find ourselves choppin’ broccoleye because [this bit](http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gO57XRDDodk) cracked us both up. We like broccolay, too.

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**Post date:** [November 19, 2009, 2:50pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/broccoli-pronunciation/518012/15 "2009-11-19T14:50:27Z")

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Most people around here call it “broc-cull-ee” although it’s not foreign to hear it referred to as “broc-coll-ee”

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**Post date:** [November 19, 2009, 2:56pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/broccoli-pronunciation/518012/16 "2009-11-19T14:56:10Z")

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Metro NYC checking in: This thread is the first I’ve ever heard of either brockolai or haitch.

From the thread title, I thought the question was going to be about the “cc”. Like someone thought it was “brotcholee” or something.

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**Post date:** [November 19, 2009, 2:59pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/broccoli-pronunciation/518012/17 "2009-11-19T14:59:42Z")

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All I’ve ever heard, all my life, was either “BROCK-lee” or “BROCK-uh-lee” (which is how I say it). Of course, since I’ve moved to WV, I _have_ heard it pronounced as “Yew know, that ‘ere green vegeble what looks like trees; but I don’ wan’ it 'less it’s real well-cooked”. 😛

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**Post date:** [November 19, 2009, 6:16pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/broccoli-pronunciation/518012/18 "2009-11-19T18:16:52Z")

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It has to be some weird Australian quirk and yet… it’s not universal, even down here. Weird.

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**Post date:** [November 19, 2009, 10:41pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/broccoli-pronunciation/518012/19 "2009-11-19T22:41:52Z")

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Definitely ‘Brock-lee’ on Long Island (NY) - going to a chinese takeout for ‘Beef & Broc-ca-lie’ just doesn’t work… (and the & is pronounced ‘en’: Beef n Brock-lee…or Chicken n Brock-lee; alas the menu numbers aren’t standardized to just say ‘L9’ at any chinese takeout and have it mean, say, Chicken n Cashews, unlike say Taco Bell or Wendy’s.)

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**Post date:** [November 19, 2009, 11:02pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/broccoli-pronunciation/518012/20 "2009-11-19T23:02:25Z")

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> [@SirRay](#):
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> Definitely ‘Brock-lee’ on Long Island (NY) - going to a chinese takeout for ‘Beef & Broc-ca-lie’ just doesn’t work.. (and the & is pronounced ‘en’: Beef n Brock-lee…or Chicken n Brock-lee; alas the menu numbers aren’t standardized to just say ‘L9’ at any chinese takeout and have it mean, say, Chicken n Cashews, unlike say Taco Bell or Wendy’s.)

I’m from Long Island and I’ve always heard it as Brock-uh-lee, with the “uh” sound being very quick. Definitely more than just “brock-lee” though.

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